In my opinion, the best I have ever seen on a Rutgers big man- even as a freshman. I’ve been watching since the Duckett/Perry days. It’s not even close.
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In my opinion, the best I have ever seen on a Rutgers big man- even as a freshman. I’ve been watching since the Duckett/Perry days. It’s not even close.
I don’t want to predict stats - I’m just talking about those two specific skills.He has a lot of potential and we are seeing it now.
I have a lot of confidence that by the time he is a junior he is a 10/8 in 25-26 minute per game option at the center in the way winning teams have their centers get those type of numbers
Name a better RU big man’s hands/passing ability since the late 80’s before making blanket statements like that.I think alot of people will disagree with your hands assessment at this point in his career. Crazy type of upside if he get develop and mean nasty attitude. He's too nice and soft out there
kadeem jack, gil biruta, eugene just in the past 5 years or so. Myles hands are probably the weakest part of his game right now and that's largely due to a lack of toughness. I anticipate it'll get substantially better but right now he has weak handsName a better RU big man’s hands/passing ability since the late 80’s before making blanket statements like that.
At Court Club meeting, Karl Hobbs was extremely high on Myles Johnson. Said once it starts clicking for him, very high ceiling and a very smart kid (like 3.8 EE major).Kid will dominate his last two years
i sit in the first few rows pretty much every home game bub and the coaches, jay young in particular is typically on him telling him to "squeeze" the ball and "fight" harder. I don't think there's many that share your opinion here, that is all.You need to watch more games bub.
agreed. He has crazy high upside but it hasn't all clicked yet. Having good hands has a lot to do with confidence and bravado. Once he develops that and starts bullying people in the post with his size, he'll have a chance to be one of the greats at the 5 in program history, that's how high I think his upside isAt Court Club meeting, Karl Hobbs was extremely high on Myles Johnson. Said once it starts clicking for him, very high ceiling and a very smart kid (like 3.8 EE major).
I love watching the freshman develop, lots of fun (Mathis, Johnson, Harper, McConnell).
Name a better RU big man’s hands/passing ability since the late 80’s before making blanket statements like that.
i sit in the first few rows pretty much every home game bub and the coaches, jay young in particular is typically on him telling him to "squeeze" the ball and "fight" harder. I don't think there's many that share your opinion here, that is all.
Myles is a normal big man....it's just been an absence of quality big men over the years for RU, that has people excited
i sit in the first few rows pretty much every home game bub and the coaches, jay young in particular is typically on him telling him to "squeeze" the ball and "fight" harder. I don't think there's many that share your opinion here, that is all.
even in the post, I haven't been all that impressed with his "soft" hands. I mean the chuckssss the ball at the backboard on that hook haha. You know who has soft hands in the post? Shaq Carter, real smooth player down low.Apples and oranges.
Offensively good hands are soft and again to the circumstances.
On rebounding good hands are strong and decisive.
He has the former is working on the latter
I think he becomes a legit Big 10 player, if he isn't already. That said, he doesn't have great hands.I think alot of people will disagree with your hands assessment at this point in his career. Crazy type of upside if he get develop and mean nasty attitude. He's too nice and soft out there
Miles is 6"10" with extremely long arms. Jack, Biruta and Eugene are all undersized Power forwards by Big 10 standards.kadeem jack, gil biruta, eugene just in the past 5 years or so. Myles hands are probably the weakest part of his game right now and that's largely due to a lack of toughness. I anticipate it'll get substantially better but right now he has weak hands
Name a better RU big man’s hands/passing ability since the late 80’s before making blanket statements like that.
Comparing Myles' year to date with the freshman campaigns of other RU 6-10+ centers, going back to 1996:
Johnson: 4.1 pts, 5.2 rbs (through 18 games)
Tenys: 5.1 pts, 1.9 rbs
Diallo: 3.6 pts, 3.4 rbs
N'Diaye: 2.7 pts, 2.9 rbs
Waterstradt: 2.4 pts, 2.5 rbs
Doorson: 1.6 pts, 2.2 rbs
Dabney: 1.6 pts, 2.0 rbs
Sankes: 0.5 pts, 1.2 rbs
We really haven't had a lot of guys with Myles size that have had strong freshman campaigns. Hope he keeps it up and gets even better next year.
I think you need to differentiate "weak" hands from "soft" hands. At times, I agree he needs to squeeze the ball harder so he retains possession, but I would also say he absolutely has "soft" hands in the sense that he has very good hand-eye coordination and catches the ball very well, which is not something all big men do, especially in RU's past. And he's quite a good passer out of the post.kadeem jack, gil biruta, eugene just in the past 5 years or so. Myles hands are probably the weakest part of his game right now and that's largely due to a lack of toughness. I anticipate it'll get substantially better but right now he has weak hands
Rashod Kent and Chuck Weiler May not have been 6’10” but played like they were. Didn’t check their freshman stats though.
Freshman year stats dont show upside which at this point is a judgment call. By his jr and sr years I think Myles can be deserving of some level of conference recognition. If so, that pushes equivalent comparisons back forty years.
Comparing Myles' year to date with the freshman campaigns of other RU 6-10+ centers, going back to 1996:
Johnson: 4.1 pts, 5.2 rbs (through 18 games)
Tenys: 5.1 pts, 1.9 rbs
Diallo: 3.6 pts, 3.4 rbs
N'Diaye: 2.7 pts, 2.9 rbs
Waterstradt: 2.4 pts, 2.5 rbs
Doorson: 1.6 pts, 2.2 rbs
Dabney: 1.6 pts, 2.0 rbs
Sankes: 0.5 pts, 1.2 rbs
We really haven't had a lot of guys with Myles size that have had strong freshman campaigns. Hope he keeps it up and gets even better next year.
Soft is a pretty damning comment. I would never want someone who was soft to he on any team I played, even men’s slow pitch softball. I would not put him in that category.I think alot of people will disagree with your hands assessment at this point in his career. Crazy type of upside if he get develop and mean nasty attitude. He's too nice and soft out there
"The Long Reach from Long Beach"Myles AKA "LONG BEACH"........is my new fav player
Miles is 6"10" with extremely long arms. Jack, Biruta and Eugene are all undersized Power forwards by Big 10 standards.
Not even close in comparison to the game that Miles can play at the 4 or 5
Will be the best big man here since Hinson in my opinion and I have been following since Sellers was a freshman.
We had lots of shorter guys that played center, too - often as PFs that were forced to play the 5 because there was no one else. Kent was just 6-6 tall, but also seemed like he was 6-6 wide too - he played well above his height in the post with great footwork, positioning, and boxing out. He just took up so much space. As a freshman, he had 8.8 pts / 4.9 rbs.
Weiler was 6-9 and had 1.7 pts / 1.5 rb as a freshman in 1990-91.
Looking at 6-8/6-9 guys who spent time at center and their freshman campaigns:
Echenique - 8.4 pts, 8.4 rbs
Clark - 5.7 pts, 4.2 rbs
Doucoure - 2.8 pts, 3.2 rbs
A. Johnson - 2.6 pts, 2.1 rbs
Wright - 2.0 pts, 1.9 rbs
Joynes - 1.9 pts, 2.0 rbs
Jack - 1.2 pts, 1.6 rbs
Lewis - 0.6 pts, 1.0 rbs
Echenique really jumps off the page as having a great freshman year. Clark also had a really solid freshman campaign.
What, no Andre Lamoreaux?
Thanks for these additions. I know why you’re trying to restrict the comparisons to fresh campaigns but I don’t think fans see things that way or it’s especially predictive of development.
I think you would need to add 4’s & 5’s because for so many years we often did not have a traditional center or many of the guys you listed were space eaters playing the role more equivalent to what Doorson does. That would add guys like Ollie Bailey, Salvi, Jamal Phillips into the picture and I think you can see why people are excited about Myles- he’s got an NBA body frame and you can’t coach height. His court vision/passing/interest are far superior to all listed IMHO with the exception of Kent. The key question for him is whether he focuses on becoming a dominant interior player or tries to move outside. I hope he focuses on his post game and becomes our version of Tim Duncan.