So .... CBS Sports had a worthwhile read ... well more fun than worthwhile (no real meaning at this stage) on its current ranking of NCAA freshmen: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...lan-harper-earns-freshman-of-the-week-honors/. The start of the article was about Harper winning freshman of the week, followed by their current ranking.
And, talking about the "ups and downs" of being a freshman, consider that Egor Demin (of BYU), the new hottest name of frosh who some think could challenge Cooper Flagg for the #1 NBA draft slot, just went 0-10 FG last night ... that's right, 0-10.
So, for sh*ts and giggles, the stats for each of the top 5 or 10 frosh, so far, at 12/4/24 (all from sports-reference.com):
Flagg: 15.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 4.1 ass/g (29 total), 44% FG, 27% 3-point, 71% FT, 48% eFG, 21 Player Efficiency, 1.2 Win Shares ... 10 stl, 10 BS, 22 TO. He has 2 games under 10 points (both blowouts against very low competition), 2 games 20 or more pts, 2 games with 13 points, 1 game with 18 points, and 2 double doubles. .
Harper: 23.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.6 ass/g (37), 51% FG, 29% 3-point, 59% 2-point, 79% FT, 55% eFG, 27.8 Player Efficiency, 1.8 Win Shares ... 7 steals, 3 blocks, 16 TO. He has 6 of his 8 games with 20 points or more, 2 with 36 or more points, 1 game with 18 and 1 game with 14 points. Only 3 games of 8 shooting under 50% from the field for the game.
Bailey: Only 6 games because missed the 1st two games. 18.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 0.7 ass/g, 46.7 % FG, 38% 3-point, 51% 2-point, 80% FT, 52.7% eFG, 19.1 Player Efficiency, 0.7 Win Shares ... 9 steals, 4 blocks, 11 TO. Lowest point total is 10 points vs ND, all other games 17 points or higher, including games of 22, 23 and 24 points ... $ of 6 games shooting 50% or better FG. 2 double doubles.
Egor Demin: 13.3 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 5.8 ass/g, 49% FG, 38.5% 3-point, 61% 2-point, 68% FT, 59% eFG, 23.8 Player Efficiency, 1.3 Win Shares ... 13 steals, 6 blocks, 19 TO (all in 8 games). He has a very wide range of performances this season so far: He started very strong, which garnered him a lot of early attention: averaged 17 ppg and 7.5 ass/g in his 1st 4 games ... but since then, the next 4 games, not so good: 3 single digit scoring efforts (8 pts, 16 points, 8 points and 6 points) - under 10 ppg in those 4 games, and 16 assists (4/g), shooting 11-34 FG, 4-19 3-pointers ... 3 of the 4 games were against the better teams BYU played: Ole Miss, NC State and Providence - but none other than Ole Miss real powerhouses. The 3 players listed above all did very well in several games against top competition - Not Demin.
Tre Johnson: 21.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.0 ass/g, 47.7% FG, 42% 3-point, 52.5% 2-point, 85% FT, 57.3% eFG, 22.7 Player Efficiency, 1.2 Win Shares ... In 7 games, 5 steals, 3 blocks and 13 TO (to 14 assists). Double digits in every game, a low of 16 points, highs of 29 and 28 points, 3 times 20 or more points. Leading a =very good Texas team - though Texas has not really played ANYONE, other than an opening game vs Ohio State, who beat Texas ... literally NO OPNE (best team was Ohio State, next best team was Syracuse, 3rd best was ... St. Joes?) A pure scorer, high level - does not do much of anything else.
I have to go, so do not have time to add others: Edgcombe, Queen, Jakocionis (sp) of Illinois and Fland. Maybe later tonight I'll add those, or tomorrow ...or not at all.
Truthfully, it looks to me like there are basically THREE tiers of players: Flagg, Harper and Bailey in Tier 1, Queen and Jakocionis in the next tier - maybe Tre Johnson, and Tre Johnson (if not in the 2nd tier), Fland and Edgecombe (does Edgecombe really belong here at all at this stage - only 11 ppg).
And, talking about the "ups and downs" of being a freshman, consider that Egor Demin (of BYU), the new hottest name of frosh who some think could challenge Cooper Flagg for the #1 NBA draft slot, just went 0-10 FG last night ... that's right, 0-10.
So, for sh*ts and giggles, the stats for each of the top 5 or 10 frosh, so far, at 12/4/24 (all from sports-reference.com):
Flagg: 15.9 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 4.1 ass/g (29 total), 44% FG, 27% 3-point, 71% FT, 48% eFG, 21 Player Efficiency, 1.2 Win Shares ... 10 stl, 10 BS, 22 TO. He has 2 games under 10 points (both blowouts against very low competition), 2 games 20 or more pts, 2 games with 13 points, 1 game with 18 points, and 2 double doubles. .
Harper: 23.8 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.6 ass/g (37), 51% FG, 29% 3-point, 59% 2-point, 79% FT, 55% eFG, 27.8 Player Efficiency, 1.8 Win Shares ... 7 steals, 3 blocks, 16 TO. He has 6 of his 8 games with 20 points or more, 2 with 36 or more points, 1 game with 18 and 1 game with 14 points. Only 3 games of 8 shooting under 50% from the field for the game.
Bailey: Only 6 games because missed the 1st two games. 18.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 0.7 ass/g, 46.7 % FG, 38% 3-point, 51% 2-point, 80% FT, 52.7% eFG, 19.1 Player Efficiency, 0.7 Win Shares ... 9 steals, 4 blocks, 11 TO. Lowest point total is 10 points vs ND, all other games 17 points or higher, including games of 22, 23 and 24 points ... $ of 6 games shooting 50% or better FG. 2 double doubles.
Egor Demin: 13.3 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 5.8 ass/g, 49% FG, 38.5% 3-point, 61% 2-point, 68% FT, 59% eFG, 23.8 Player Efficiency, 1.3 Win Shares ... 13 steals, 6 blocks, 19 TO (all in 8 games). He has a very wide range of performances this season so far: He started very strong, which garnered him a lot of early attention: averaged 17 ppg and 7.5 ass/g in his 1st 4 games ... but since then, the next 4 games, not so good: 3 single digit scoring efforts (8 pts, 16 points, 8 points and 6 points) - under 10 ppg in those 4 games, and 16 assists (4/g), shooting 11-34 FG, 4-19 3-pointers ... 3 of the 4 games were against the better teams BYU played: Ole Miss, NC State and Providence - but none other than Ole Miss real powerhouses. The 3 players listed above all did very well in several games against top competition - Not Demin.
Tre Johnson: 21.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.0 ass/g, 47.7% FG, 42% 3-point, 52.5% 2-point, 85% FT, 57.3% eFG, 22.7 Player Efficiency, 1.2 Win Shares ... In 7 games, 5 steals, 3 blocks and 13 TO (to 14 assists). Double digits in every game, a low of 16 points, highs of 29 and 28 points, 3 times 20 or more points. Leading a =very good Texas team - though Texas has not really played ANYONE, other than an opening game vs Ohio State, who beat Texas ... literally NO OPNE (best team was Ohio State, next best team was Syracuse, 3rd best was ... St. Joes?) A pure scorer, high level - does not do much of anything else.
I have to go, so do not have time to add others: Edgcombe, Queen, Jakocionis (sp) of Illinois and Fland. Maybe later tonight I'll add those, or tomorrow ...or not at all.
Truthfully, it looks to me like there are basically THREE tiers of players: Flagg, Harper and Bailey in Tier 1, Queen and Jakocionis in the next tier - maybe Tre Johnson, and Tre Johnson (if not in the 2nd tier), Fland and Edgecombe (does Edgecombe really belong here at all at this stage - only 11 ppg).
