This is a good result for wrestling, as there was a lot of speculation and fear that it would be far lower. You'll be able to offer up to 30 full rides, rather than the current 9.9. On the flip side, we need a lot more $ to cover this.
NCAA Wrestling Roster & Schollie Limit Set @ 30
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This is a good result for wrestling, as there was a lot of speculation and fear that it would be far lower. You'll be able to offer up to 30 full rides, rather than the current 9.9. On the flip side, we need a lot more $ to cover this.
I had no idea Tumbling was an NCAA sport. I just had to look it up and there are 6 Div I schools. Rutgers should start one up, you have a 1 in 7 chance of winning a National Championship.
True. Won’t effect RU as much as some other squads since we typical only carry 30-35. The scholarship and revenue sharing will be bigger factors
Yeah I don’t know how a team like Army who carries anywhere from 50-60 wrestlers is going to navigate this
Army doesn't have athletic scholarships, This is immaterial to them. Army, Navy, and Air Force can continue to have large rosters if they so choose.
Pretty sure the NCAA set a 30 man roster limit unless I misunderstood
I guess we'll see. There is no limit on walk-ons. FBS has 85 scholarships and no limit on walk-ons. At Army, essentially every wrestler is a walk-on as there are no athletic scholarships.
Will Rutgers be limited to 30 or is there wiggle room with non-scholarship wrestlers, aka walk on? If 30 is a real limit, six will need to be cut from the '24-'25 roster.
What is the real cost of a full scholarship? When I was in the corporate environment, we had green and gray dollars. Green were costs where money left the company, and gray were internal costs between organizations. If Rutgers pays itself tuition, that sounds gray, but there are actual green dollar expenses too. However, I do not know how they do the accounting.
What is the real cost of a full scholarship? When I was in the corporate environment, we had green and gray dollars. Green were costs where money left the company, and gray were internal costs between organizations. If Rutgers pays itself tuition, that sounds gray, but there are actual green dollar expenses too. However, I do not know how they do the accounting.
The scholarship limit is the max as well as the roster limit. Schools that do not offer the max number of scholarships still must have a roster not exceeding the limit(30 for wrestling).
Starts in the 25-26 season.
This is the end. There's 77 programs now, how many will not be able to afford this or see no reason to try. Can an American or App St. afford this? How about a Binghamton Buffalo, Bloomsberg or Bucknell, and I just went to the B's.
Plenty of schools will have to cut. This will probably push more of those last roster spots to D3, unless the RTC can be used to stash wrestlers and make roster moves.
That's not my understanding. The roster limit is 30 regardless of scholarships.
No clue if this is accurate, even though the American coach mentioned it. Unfortunately, schools will cut some sports over the next 5-10 yrs.
I don’t think this is going to directly result in any sports being cut. Teams do not have to use all 30 scholarship so the amount of money spent on the program doesn’t have to change.
I think the only issue now is that the rich get richer. The Penn States of the world who already have loaded benches will be able to give 20 backup wrestlers full scholarships. So if a free education is more important to a recruit than a starting spot, the upper end teams will be filling their rooms with guys who would otherwise be starters at lower level programs. Though that would probably happen anyway with NIL rules.
I think the only issue now is that the rich get richer. The Penn States of the world who already have loaded benches will be able to give 20 backup wrestlers full scholarships. So if a free education is more important to a recruit than a starting spot, the upper end teams will be filling their rooms with guys who would otherwise be starters at lower level programs. Though that would probably happen anyway with NIL rules.
Both will happen, the rich get richer, and some will cut. Pitt coach thinks that too. He also mentioned having to make some budget cuts and scheduling more regionally to save $.
“Maybe the rich get richer with some of those big teams, but that’s already happening with NIL,” Gavin said in an interview Saturday. “The real concern is that over time you’ll lose programs because where are these schools going to come up with money?”
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“We’re not going to lose (scholarship) money or anything like that,” he said. “Title IX will play a role when it comes to money, but this is more about looking at where people can save money. There will be budget cuts. Even with us, you’ll see us doing more of a regional schedule. If we’re trying to save money, I can save it in the travel budget.”
That makes sense. If teams have to come up with 25 more football scholarships the bill has to be paid somehow. I would think there’s other sports that would be in bigger trouble than wrestling though, which is able to charge a ticket/streaming fee and generally share a space with basketball anyway. Could see this becoming a bigger problem for sports like baseball and lower level hockey
Unfortunately, wrestling has always been in these discussions to cut sports because it's an easy target. Schools need to start focusing more on dual meets, selling more tickets, and making them big events, or some programs will be dropped.
I’d expect more wrestling programs to get cut. Most schools don’t draw well for wrestling matches.. easy cut.
The 30-man roster limit is only for Power 5 schools. Non-Power 5 schools can choose to opt in to the agreement to participate in revenue sharing and no scholarship limits but would then be limited by the roster cap. I think that it is very unlikely that Army/Navy/Air Force would opt to participate in revenue sharing, so they would essentially continue operating as usual. This is likely the case for the Ivies as well.
Good clarification. It'll be interesting to see who opts in and whether Borrelli's rumor is true. If there's no impact to participating in NCAA championships, then Ivies won't be impacted and can keep larger rosters, as some do.
Flo's breakdown (more details in the link):
www.flowrestling.org
If the 30-man roster cap was in effect for Power 5 schools last season, 118 wrestlers across 22 schools would have been cut to comply with the proposed regulations. Check out the roster sizes for Power-5 wrestling schools below to see the potential impact of the new roster cap mandate.
Check out last year's roster size for the non-Power-5 wrestling schools below.
Unlimited Scholarships, Roster Caps, & More In NCAA vs House Settlement - FloWrestling
A breakdown of how the NCAA vs House settlement will impact division 1 college wrestling's scholarships, roster caps, and more.
If the 30-man roster cap was in effect for Power 5 schools last season, 118 wrestlers across 22 schools would have been cut to comply with the proposed regulations. Check out the roster sizes for Power-5 wrestling schools below to see the potential impact of the new roster cap mandate.
| School | 2023-24 Roster | Conference |
| Oregon State | 43 | Pac 12 |
| Iowa State | 41 | Big 12 |
| Iowa | 40 | Big 10 |
| Michigan State | 39 | Big 10 |
| Missouri | 38 | SEC/Big 12 |
| Oklahoma State | 38 | Big 12 |
| Arizona State | 37 | Big 12 |
| Michigan | 37 | Big 10 |
| Penn State | 37 | Big 10 |
| West Virginia | 37 | Big 12 |
| Nebraska | 35 | Big 10 |
| Oklahoma | 35 | SEC/Big 12 |
| Ohio State | 34 | Big 10 |
| Virginia Tech | 34 | ACC |
| Virginia | 33 | ACC |
| Indiana | 32 | Big 10 |
| Maryland | 32 | Big 10 |
| North Carolina | 32 | ACC |
| Pittsburgh | 32 | ACC |
| NC State | 31 | ACC |
| Purdue | 31 | Big 10 |
| Illinois | 30 | Big 10 |
| Rutgers | 30 | Big 10 |
| Wisconsin | 29 | Big 10 |
| Minnesota | 28 | Big 10 |
| Stanford | 26 | ACC |
| Northwestern | 21 | Big 10 |
| Duke | 20 | ACC |
Check out last year's roster size for the non-Power-5 wrestling schools below.
| School | 2023-24 Roster | Conference |
| Army | 53 | EIWA |
| Navy | 49 | EIWA |
| Sacred Heart | 49 | EIWA |
| Lehigh | 45 | EIWA |
| Kent State | 44 | MAC |
| Bellarmine | 43 | SOCON |
| Clarion | 40 | MAC |
| Cornell | 38 | Ivy League |
| Penn | 38 | Ivy League |
| Air Force | 37 | Big 12 |
| Northern Illinois | 37 | MAC |
| Rider | 37 | MAC |
| VMI | 37 | SOCON |
| Columbia | 36 | Ivy League |
| Northern Colorado | 36 | Big 12 |
| Ohio | 36 | MAC |
| South Dakota State | 36 | Big 12 |
| Appalachian State | 35 | SOCON |
| Cleveland State | 35 | MAC |
| Drexel | 35 | EIWA |
| California Baptist | 34 | Big 12 |
| Lock Haven | 34 | MAC |
| North Dakota State | 34 | Big 12 |
| Harvard | 33 | Ivy League |
| Little Rock | 33 | Pac 12 |
| Long Island | 33 | EIWA |
| Wyoming | 33 | Big 12 |
| Binghamton | 32 | EIWA |
| Bucknell | 32 | EIWA |
| Buffalo | 32 | MAC |
| Franklin & Marshall | 32 | EIWA |
| Gardner-Webb | 32 | SOCON |
| George Mason | 32 | MAC |
| Cal Poly | 31 | Pac 12 |
| Edinboro | 31 | MAC |
| Northern Iowa | 31 | Big 12 |
| Chattanooga | 30 | SOCON |
| CSU Bakersfield | 30 | Pac 12 |
| SIUE | 30 | MAC |
| Campbell | 29 | SOCON |
| Central Michigan | 29 | MAC |
| Princeton | 29 | Ivy League |
| The Citadel | 29 | SOCON |
| Davidson | 28 | SOCON |
| Hofstra | 28 | EIWA |
| Mercyhurst | 28 | |
| Morgan State | 28 | |
| American | 27 | EIWA |
| Utah Valley | 26 | Big 12 |
| Bloomsburg | 23 | MAC |
| Brown | 23 | Ivy League |
| Presbyterian | 21 | SOCON |
NCAA scholarships accounting is described on page 22 of the NCAA financial reporting rules.
Athletic student aid
Input he total dollar amount of athletic student aid for the reporting year including:
• Summer school.
• Tuition discounts and waivers (unless it is a discount or waiver available to the general student body).
• Aid given to student-athletes who are inactive (medical reasons) or no longer eligible (exhausted eligibility).
• Other expenses related to attendance (e.g., stipend).
Note: Division I Grants-in-aid equivalencies are calculated by using the revenue distribution equivalencies by sport and in aggregate. (Athletic grant amount divided by the full grant amount). Other expenses related to attendance (also known as cost of attendance) should not be included in the grants-in-aid revenue distribution equivalencies. Only tuition, fees, living expenses, and course related books are countable for grants-in-aid revenue distribution per Bylaw 20.02.10.
