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FB Recruiting New 2023 QB offer -- Jack Grusser of Ramapo

The OC is likely going to be Nunzio and I don't think he is doing a terrible job. What we run makes sense and this leap of faith that some OC somewhere is also going to be a recruiter ........AND somehow provide a QB coming with him, AND that the QB coming with the OC is going to play here at RU??

If this kid commits to RU, he is a Evan Simon insurance policy. I still think a portal QB is likely, but only if Simon departs......but this offer gives me the indication that Simon is going to stick around for 2023.
 
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Have been able to watch him a few times live. The few things that jump out at me.

1) Arm Strength - Actually seems above average in my opinion. Ramapo throws a lot of slants (and he has great zip on it) and long balls. Last week in the the playoff game, he hit two different passes that were 40+ yards downfield in stride.

2) Speed - Kid can run, will not be a running QB by any stretch, but he has speed and and throw on the run

3) Size - He is pretty small, and not sure he has the frame to get size

4) Decision making - Hard to gauge for me. In his games, outside of 3-step drop slant plays he as typically 5+ seconds to throw the ball. Not a negative, but hard to gauge what would happen if has to throw closer to 2.5 - 3.0 seconds.
 
The arm strength is not there. Likely a kid who transfers 2 years in but I guess that's all we want to target at this point since Gavin is a freshman.
NIL and the stupidity of the transfer rule is going to ruin alot of programs at QB position.
No One is going to want to be 2nd fiddle and will just transfer. They need to go back to the drawing board and institute 1 transfer rule and sit a year.....or if the players want their freedom to do as wish schools should be able to rescind schollies yearly. I think B1G has rule to honor schollie for 4yrs. Quitshear an Art should have had their schollies rescinded immediately after refusing to play (maybe they were forget at this point)
 
This move makes no sense. The staff has no direction and is grasping at straws this year. There was so much promise initially, but they look lost right now.

At this point you hire the next OC and let them bring in 2 QBs via transfer and high school who fit the new system. Anyone left this late in the game is not likely to make an impact. If you want to add a QB you start in the spring and summer not November. No other program would do this.

Now I worry that they will not bring in the experienced OC we need.
You need to read up and see where Rivhie said that several on the staff where interested but Gleeson was not. I am not sure what was going on with Gleeson and recruiting, but perhaps he might have been the reason we did not offer much earlier. Perhaps there are some other players whom we also did not offer and now we are trying to catch up. Speculation, but Richie wouldn't just drop that without reason.

As to the point about an OC bringing someone, I do not disagree. I just wonder if Nunzio is going to be the guy and he likes Grusser. I do believe that GW will be much better next year with a better running game. Some of the floaters seem to be adrenaline induced as much as anything. Time will tell.
 
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I hope Nunzio is not the OC.

You can say that, but who is going to come to work for RU at this time.....Terrible Mark Whipple who is doing nothing with way more talent at Nebraska?? Kirk Ciarocca......??? RU doesn't have many legitimate options IMO.

I don't think Schiano is going to hire a coach that has as good of a resume as Schiano has and any reasonable OC with a good resume or Power 5 track record, is going to ask for total control of the offense, something that GS is HIGHLY unlikely to give up.

I watched the last 3 games of Indiana, Minnesota and Michigan and even though we got shutout at Minnesota, at least the game plan makes sense.

We moved the ball for 2 quarters against a Top 5/10 program in Michigan without any running game to support the QB and suspect pass protection......what OC is available that makes sense to you ??

I would also give Nunzio a slight bump in pay and reshuffle some of the other money from overpaying for Gleeson from the OC spot, to upgrade the WR coaching and recruiting. This team needs playmakers.
 
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You can say that, but who is going to come to work for RU at this time.....Terrible Mark Whipple who is doing nothing with way more talent at Nebraska?? Kirk Ciarocca......??? RU doesn't have many legitimate options IMO.

I don't think Schiano is going to hire a coach that has as good of a resume as Schiano has and any reasonable OC with a good resume or Power 5 track record, is going to ask for total control of the offense, something that GS is HIGHLY unlikely to give up.

I watched the last 3 games of Indiana, Minnesota and Michigan and even though we got shutout at Minnesota, at least the game plan makes sense.

We moved the ball for 2 quarters against a Top 5/10 program in Michigan without any running game to support the QB and suspect pass protection......what OC is available that makes sense to you ??

I would also give Nunzio a slight bump in pay and reshuffle some of the other money from overpaying for Gleeson from the OC spot, to upgrade the WR coaching and recruiting. This team needs playmakers.

You have the worst takes. Get a P5 coordinator and give him a pay bump.
 
The OC job will have plenty of suitors. Will we be able to lure a Phil Longo-type from UNC? Probably not. But given Rutgers paid it's previous OC ~$1M a year, Schiano is in a stable position as HC and the rebuild is entering year 4 (and has way more talent than it did the last time the OC search was underway)... There will be good coaches who are interested.
 
You have the worst takes. Get a P5 coordinator and give him a pay bump.
I agree with that for sure. but keeping camp sounds like such a ru move that I actually don't blame anyone for thinking gs would do that.
 
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The OC is likely going to be Nunzio and I don't think he is doing a terrible job. What we run makes sense and this leap of faith that some OC somewhere is also going to be a recruiter ........AND somehow provide a QB coming with him, AND that the QB coming with the OC is going to play here at RU??

If this kid commits to RU, he is a Evan Simon insurance policy. I still think a portal QB is likely, but only if Simon departs......but this offer gives me the indication that Simon is going to stick around for 2023.
”I don’t think he is doing a terrible job” - What a ringing endorsement!

If any other Big 10 school had an opening for a new OC, do you think any of them would consider Nunzio??? The answer is no, and at this stage we shouldn’t be either.

And if I was considering being the OC at Rutgers, you damn well better believe I would want to be all over the recruiting to make sure I had some talent to work with.
 
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I hope Nunzio has a role but not as OC. Without a massive war chest to entice free agents we will most certainly need a guy with some kind of track record that can attract offensive players.
 
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You have the worst takes. Get a P5 coordinator and give him a pay bump.
You might be correct......but we both know I am correct and you are consistently out in left field.

I'll ask you a 2nd time, since it went over your head......provide names of existing Power 5 OCs that RU can hire.....

Are they running a successful offense.....??

Are they tied or know Schiano or NJ......???

Which Power 5 Coordinators are on your list......???...why don't YOU provide names.....

I bump heads and disagree with posters like kyk all the time, when he posts something BUT at least he attempts or provides supporting information or names or thoughts on WHY he arrives at his decision.....at least I can respect that aspect, even if the thought process or what he believes isn't something I agree with.

You post nothing of relevance....provide names if you like.....I'll wait.....
 
You might be correct......but we both know I am correct and you are consistently out in left field.

I'll ask you a 2nd time, since it went over your head......provide names of existing Power 5 OCs that RU can hire.....

Are they running a successful offense.....??

Are they tied or know Schiano or NJ......???

Which Power 5 Coordinators are on your list......???...why don't YOU provide names.....

I bump heads and disagree with posters like kyk all the time, when he posts something BUT at least he attempts or provides supporting information or names or thoughts on WHY he arrives at his decision.....at least I can respect that aspect, even if the thought process or what he believes isn't something I agree with.

You post nothing of relevance....provide names if you like.....I'll wait.....

It doesn’t have to be someone from NJ with ties to Schiano. It could be someone like our Defensive Coordinator. Gleeson made 1 million a year. Theres a lot of P5 coordinators that make like 500k. You don’t think someone would come to double their salary?
 
”I don’t think he is doing a terrible job” - What a ringing endorsement!

If any other Big 10 school had an opening for a new OC, do you think any of them would consider Nunzio??? The answer is no, and at this stage we shouldn’t be either.

And if I was considering being the OC at Rutgers, you damn well better believe I would want to be all over the recruiting to make sure I had some talent to work with.

Here is how I arrive at this process.

A) We offered a QB without an OC in place.

B) Gleeson didn't like this prospect, hence we didn't offer him.....others on the staff apparently did.

C) if you are going to hire an OC, you better hire one who actually calls plays or is the one who engineers the offense......we hired "A Power 5 OC in Sean Gleeson", which any sane College Football fan knows is Mike Gundys offense at Oklahoma State....Gleesons resume was very thin and if not from NJ, had no business being a candidate.....if you look at the offense under Nunzio vs Gleeson, its clear who the overpaid coach is and who wasnt paid enough.

D) Schiano has stated multiple times that he wants to play "complimentary football and to run the football "......that means any spread Offensive Coordinators or pass 1st OCs are out.......that eliminates 75% of the OCs around the country.

E) We need more talent and can upgrade assistant coaches at other areas on offense, specifically ones that can recruit. Nunzio can run the offense for this season and next and should be a candidate that can likely recruit with more power, if he is the OC. And I believe he should be a legit candidate to work with our QBs and given an opportunity to see what he can do with Wimsatt and Brown in 2023.

Upgrade the RB coach......upgrade the WR coaches......get better recruiters by giving those positions more of a pay increase and you don't need to pay Nunzio 1.0 to 1.25M to be the OC.....he can get the job done at 650K and spread the other 350K to 600K to beef up the other coaching spots.
 
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Also to be fair, Gleeson was our first and only attempt at a high profile OC and we were successful. He ended up being trash but we did pull him from a pretty good situation.
 
You can say that, but who is going to come to work for RU at this time.....Terrible Mark Whipple who is doing nothing with way more talent at Nebraska?? Kirk Ciarocca......??? RU doesn't have many legitimate options IMO.

I don't think Schiano is going to hire a coach that has as good of a resume as Schiano has and any reasonable OC with a good resume or Power 5 track record, is going to ask for total control of the offense, something that GS is HIGHLY unlikely to give up.

I watched the last 3 games of Indiana, Minnesota and Michigan and even though we got shutout at Minnesota, at least the game plan makes sense.

We moved the ball for 2 quarters against a Top 5/10 program in Michigan without any running game to support the QB and suspect pass protection......what OC is available that makes sense to you ??

I would also give Nunzio a slight bump in pay and reshuffle some of the other money from overpaying for Gleeson from the OC spot, to upgrade the WR coaching and recruiting. This team needs playmakers.
Both Whipple and Kirk ( I can’t believe I’m saying this about Kirk but to his credit he has grown quite a bit as a coach) would be better options.

But, in the end I don’t think it matters. As a preface I will say I think Schiano is as good a coach as RU could hope to have and I personally believe he will maximize the program’s potential. But, aside from a pair of years where we had 1 if not 2 NFL backs, 2 NFL WRs and an experienced starter at QB who had a cup of coffee in the NFL, along with a couple future pros on the o-line and I believe one at TE, Greg has never really had consistently productive offenses. And even the 05 through 07 offenses were predicated on running the ball and trying to beat opponents in a phone booth. He’s never going to run a wide-open/innovative offense- to his core he believes that a solid defense, special teams and an offense that doesn’t turn the ball over are enough to win games, and he’s right…when it comes to Indiana, Maryland, 2/3 of the west division and MSU in a down year. But you’re not going to beat any of the top 3 to 4 teams in division with that formula because they either have the same blueprint but with much better talent or they run prolific offenses that we won’t be able to keep up with.

If/when the B1G gets rid of divisions, RU should benefit. After watching Flood and Ash teams look like they didn’t belong in a G5 conference, I’ve gotten realistic and would be happy with consistent 6-6 or 7-5 teams that compete and occasionally pull off an upset with a special 9-3 season sprinkles in every 4 to 6 years. And I think we’re working toward that now. But unless Greg has a seismic shift in his core coaching beliefs, I don’t think we’ll see an offense at RU that can compete with the big boys and that’s a shame, because he (and the staff he hires) do a great job with the defense and ST
 
Both Whipple and Kirk ( I can’t believe I’m saying this about Kirk but to his credit he has grown quite a bit as a coach) would be better options.

But, in the end I don’t think it matters. As a preface I will say I think Schiano is as good a coach as RU could hope to have and I personally believe he will maximize the program’s potential. But, aside from a pair of years where we had 1 if not 2 NFL backs, 2 NFL WRs and an experienced starter at QB who had a cup of coffee in the NFL, along with a couple future pros on the o-line and I believe one at TE, Greg has never really had consistently productive offenses. And even the 05 through 07 offenses were predicated on running the ball and trying to beat opponents in a phone booth. He’s never going to run a wide-open/innovative offense- to his core he believes that a solid defense, special teams and an offense that doesn’t turn the ball over are enough to win games, and he’s right…when it comes to Indiana, Maryland, 2/3 of the west division and MSU in a down year. But you’re not going to beat any of the top 3 to 4 teams in division with that formula because they either have the same blueprint but with much better talent or they run prolific offenses that we won’t be able to keep up with.

If/when the B1G gets rid of divisions, RU should benefit. After watching Flood and Ash teams look like they didn’t belong in a G5 conference, I’ve gotten realistic and would be happy with consistent 6-6 or 7-5 teams that compete and occasionally pull off an upset with a special 9-3 season sprinkles in every 4 to 6 years. And I think we’re working toward that now. But unless Greg has a seismic shift in his core coaching beliefs, I don’t think we’ll see an offense at RU that can compete with the big boys and that’s a shame, because he (and the staff he hires) do a great job with the defense and ST
I think you are correct, we are destined to be a 5-7 to 7-5 type team most years with that magical season once in a while. the conference will get harder once USC and UCLA come aboard with who knows who else.
 
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Id like to see brian leonard or Savon be the rb coach. We need to give augie another year or two. A lot of new young ols hopefully we can find 3 more that can play out of this pile of newbies. Ive met nunzio hes a nice guy but lets face it the tight ends have not fared well. Alaimo is actually worse now then when he started. Love johnny but make him a linebacker. Hes just not a tight end. Anyway i think shaw will be fine we need a new dedicated qb coach who can recruit and an oc that can coach tight ends. Nunzio hasnt really been able to get the catholic school kids. Its time to move on but schiano isnt going to do it. Thats my two cents. We should put lenny or lennys proxy on staff as well to keep nicks friends and the e hall kids on board.
 
You need to read up and see where Rivhie said that several on the staff where interested but Gleeson was not. I am not sure what was going on with Gleeson and recruiting, but perhaps he might have been the reason we did not offer much earlier. Perhaps there are some other players whom we also did not offer and now we are trying to catch up. Speculation, but Richie wouldn't just drop that without reason.

As to the point about an OC bringing someone, I do not disagree. I just wonder if Nunzio is going to be the guy and he likes Grusser. I do believe that GW will be much better next year with a better running game. Some of the floaters seem to be adrenaline induced as much as anything. Time will tell.
I saw that comment. My take on it is he is offering some kind of explanation for the weird timing, not necessarily justifying that he thinks this guy is worth a ship.

I don’t pretend to be able to evaluate QBs better than the coaches. He could end up being a great prospect. What I do know is they have limited options now. The odds are not in our favor, because we waited way too long. That doesn’t sit well with me. We should not manage the QB room shopping from the bargain bin. It is hands down the most important position on the field.

Imo the best chance of success is to hold out on selecting a QB until a new OC can generate some buzz for the program. That would be my plan. We take the best transfer and best freshman we can get. I don’t expect superstars, but we should be able to find a prospect at least on par if not better than this guy. That’s not a huge ask.

I don’t trust the offensive staff at all. Nunz seems like a good team player, but sticking with him would be a disappointment. Recruiting playmakers will continue to be flat unless we bring in a proven commodity.
 
Theres no better qb analyst on this site than me. Check the receipts.
So you are completely down now on Simon even tho his interception ratio is less then what Wimsatt is currently putting up, stat wise?
 
Theres no better qb analyst on this site than me. Check the receipts.
No question. Btw can you post the video of the long TD pass you threw down the sideline in hs during the state playoffs? It was a beauty and either at Giants Stadium or at RU Stadium.
 
So you are completely down now on Simon even tho his interception ratio is less then what Wimsatt is currently putting up, stat wise?

Interceptions are irrelevant to QB skill and upside.....the impact of the Interceptions (game situation, time and score and opponent) is far more relevant to discuss.

If Wimsatt has 4 to 5 Interceptions when attempting to score being down 2 or more TDs in a game or against an elite defense opponent, that is far different than Simon tossing away 2 potential wins, when the game was tied or RU held a lead at home against winnable oppone ts (Iowa and Nebraska).

It is clear to me, based on limited sample size, Wimsatt has far more ability and skills to build around than anyone RU has recruited at QB in a while.

In terms of Grusser and this offer, I think it's only more critical if he commits to RU.

In terms of Mark Whipple, he is more on the older side and has far more talent at his disposal at Nebraska than he would at RU next year, even with Wimsatt and Brown playing major roles. Nebraska on offense has been woefully disappointing.....if he cannot produce offense at Nebraska with better players at pretty much every position there vs RU, how can we expect better results here with far less skill/talent??

We need someone who is going to elevate the basic execution of what we do well and help keep the RU defense off the field next year. Whipple is a higher tempo offense that doesn't run the ball enough and watching Nebraska, I don't see anything indicating he would be successful here.
 
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I saw that comment. My take on it is he is offering some kind of explanation for the weird timing, not necessarily justifying that he thinks this guy is worth a ship.

I don’t pretend to be able to evaluate QBs better than the coaches. He could end up being a great prospect. What I do know is they have limited options now. The odds are not in our favor, because we waited way too long. That doesn’t sit well with me. We should not manage the QB room shopping from the bargain bin. It is hands down the most important position on the field.

Imo the best chance of success is to hold out on selecting a QB until a new OC can generate some buzz for the program. That would be my plan. We take the best transfer and best freshman we can get. I don’t expect superstars, but we should be able to find a prospect at least on par if not better than this guy. That’s not a huge ask.

I don’t trust the offensive staff at all. Nunz seems like a good team player, but sticking with him would be a disappointment. Recruiting playmakers will continue to be flat unless we bring in a proven commodity.
Good take but that doesn't mean we don't take this kid as well. We need bodies. Having said that it would probably make sense to wait to go after a portal QB until we hire a bigger name OC (Which I think we will do)...
 
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Interceptions are irrelevant to QB skill and upside.....the impact of the Interceptions (game situation, time and score and opponent) is far more relevant to discuss.

If Wimsatt has 4 to 5 Interceptions when attempting to score being down 2 or more TDs in a game or against an elite defense opponent, that is far different than Simon tossing away 2 potential wins, when the game was tied or RU held a lead at home against winnable oppone ts (Iowa and Nebraska).

It is clear to me, based on limited sample size, Wimsatt has far more ability and skills to build around than anyone RU has recruited at QB in a while.

In terms of Grusser and this offer, I think it's only more critical if he commits to RU.

In terms of Mark Whipple, he is more on the older side and has far more talent at his disposal at Nebraska than he would at RU next year, even with Wimsatt and Brown playing major roles. Nebraska on offense has been woefully disappointing.....if he cannot produce offense at Nebraska with better players at pretty much every position there vs RU, how can we expect better results here with far less skill/talent??

We need someone who is going to elevate the basic execution of what we do well and help keep the RU defense off the field next year. Whipple is a higher tempo offense that doesn't run the ball enough and watching Nebraska, I don't see anything indicating he would be successful here.
I actually don’t disagree with a lot here, but I think that says more about how bad our offensive situation is presently. Whipple would be an upgrade despite most of what you’ve pointed out being true imo. And while he has more talent at Nebraska, and he’s ts not really producing, let’s not forget he was the architect of a Pitt offense that last year had a Heisman consideration at QB and a Biletnikoff winner at WR, for a team that won a conference title.

In any case, for the reasons you mentioned- primarily age and style of offense, we don’t think there will be much mutual interest between Greg and Whipple.

We need to prepare for the hiring of an “up and coming” OC as I can’t see an established guy wanting the job (exception would be a Fridge/Kill type who is presumably near the end of their career and is looking for an me last hoo-ra/payday…we’ve seen first hand how well and how poorly that can work out). Here’s to hoping that Greg hits on a promising offensive coach the way he has numerous times with defensive ones.
 
It is interesting that the first and most repeated comment on this message board about a QB recruit is arm strength. Yet, 10 out of 10 QB Coaches and OC's will tell you that accuracy is the most attribute in a QB.

Hmmm
Probably because most of us understandably have PTSD from watching QBs with questionable arm strength and a complete lack of a downfield passing game for the past 8 years or so.
 
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It is interesting that the first and most repeated comment on this message board about a QB recruit is arm strength. Yet, 10 out of 10 QB Coaches and OC's will tell you that accuracy is the most attribute in a QB.

Hmmm

I would also ask that if you ask any defensive coordinator what strikes fear into a defensive coaching staff, it is the raw ability for a QB to get the ball into tight windows if they play zone.......OR does the QB have the ability to expand the defense by getting the ball downfield on a deep pass.

Defensive coaches design gameplans based on what the QB can or cannot do. I don't care how accurate a QB or QB coach says a player is, if he doesn't have the ability to get the ball to a Chris Long on a slant route OR give the WR a chance to make a defender miss, because the ball gets to the WR quickly.

Every secondary coach is willing to give a WR cushion if a QB has an ability to hit a big play downfield. Arm strength dictates so many facets of how an opponent defends an offense.

If you then add the dimension that Wimsatt presents with his ability to run (not now because he has an Ankle injury), but DCs are less reluctant to play man coverage against a QB who has arm strength AND has an ability to escape the pocket and can run......teams that have defenders playing man coverage and running with their back to the QB, because they're trying to keep up with a WR, doesn't see the QB escape and picking up yards.

The accuracy and ability to eventually know when to take a little off of some throws and delivering some passes quickly, just comes together with playing time. There are too many tools that with proper coaching, Wimsatt offers as upside.
 
If Gary Nova was a more accurate passer he would be in his 8th year in the NFL and 5th year as a starter.
 
If Gary Nova was a more accurate passer he would be in his 8th year in the NFL and 5th year as a starter.
Doubtful. He’s just a smidge over 6 foot, borderline athleticism. His arm strength and accuracy were adequate for college, but neither was pro level. Add to that, he wasn’t exactly a gym/film rat, and you have the makings of a decent college qb with little to no chance of making it to the pros imo.

I think that, because our QB play has been so putrid since Nova, we sometimes look back at his time here with some nostalgia. But if I really think about it, I remember plenty of games where he was one of the biggest reasons we didn’t/couldn’t execute on O. Once Caroo left, his shortcomings were even more evident
 
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I would also ask that if you ask any defensive coordinator what strikes fear into a defensive coaching staff, it is the raw ability for a QB to get the ball into tight windows if they play zone.......OR does the QB have the ability to expand the defense by getting the ball downfield on a deep pass.

Defensive coaches design gameplans based on what the QB can or cannot do. I don't care how accurate a QB or QB coach says a player is, if he doesn't have the ability to get the ball to a Chris Long on a slant route OR give the WR a chance to make a defender miss, because the ball gets to the WR quickly.

Every secondary coach is willing to give a WR cushion if a QB has an ability to hit a big play downfield. Arm strength dictates so many facets of how an opponent defends an offense.

If you then add the dimension that Wimsatt presents with his ability to run (not now because he has an Ankle injury), but DCs are less reluctant to play man coverage against a QB who has arm strength AND has an ability to escape the pocket and can run......teams that have defenders playing man coverage and running with their back to the QB, because they're trying to keep up with a WR, doesn't see the QB escape and picking up yards.

The accuracy and ability to eventually know when to take a little off of some throws and delivering some passes quickly, just comes together with playing time. There are too many tools that with proper coaching, Wimsatt offers as upside.
accuracy sometimes is never approved upon. It is the big seperation,along with proper read/checkdowns,between a backup QB and a power 5 starting QB.
 
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It is interesting that the first and most repeated comment on this message board about a QB recruit is arm strength. Yet, 10 out of 10 QB Coaches and OC's will tell you that accuracy is the most attribute in a QB.

Hmmm
Look at Steve Walsh who I believe won a Natty at Miami. Couldn't throw the ball further than 30 yards, but was accurate as all hell. Not saying we completely want that, just saying that if you can increase accuracy you can move chains and sustain drives.
 
Doubtful. He’s just a smidge over 6 foot, borderline athleticism. His arm strength and accuracy were adequate for college, but neither was pro level. Add to that, he wasn’t exactly a gym/film rat, and you have the makings of a decent college qb with little to no chance of making it to the pros imo.

I think that, because our QB play has been so putrid since Nova, we sometimes look back at his time here with some nostalgia. But if I really think about it, I remember plenty of games where he was one of the biggest reasons we didn’t/couldn’t execute on O. Once Caroo left, his shortcomings were even more evident
Huh, Carroo was a year behind Nova and Sanu was only there for Nova's first year. So who are you referring to?
 
So....Michigan is (apparently) giving this kid a pretty long look BUT he's not good enough for some here? Oh boy lol....SMDH
Michigan is always going to have tons of pieces and talent littered all over the roster.....all they need is a distributor of the ball who doesn't turn the ball over. This would mean he's a Jim Harbaugh type of QB.

In turn for RU, the fans have to evaluate the player in terms of savior, and can he potentially carry the entire offense on his back, without upgrades to the roster.

One "factor", is that maybe the talent at the skill positioned and incoming for 2023 is better than what we have in place now. And that a QB like Grusser can not be viewed as a savior with high measurables....if those pieces come together in 2 to 3 years on the OL, there should be a QB to follow up or back up the starter and become a QB down the road in 2025 and beyond.
 
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Interceptions are irrelevant to QB skill and upside.....the impact of the Interceptions (game situation, time and score and opponent) is far more relevant to discuss.

If Wimsatt has 4 to 5 Interceptions when attempting to score being down 2 or more TDs in a game or against an elite defense opponent, that is far different than Simon tossing away 2 potential wins, when the game was tied or RU held a lead at home against winnable oppone ts (Iowa and Nebraska).

It is clear to me, based on limited sample size, Wimsatt has far more ability and skills to build around than anyone RU has recruited at QB in a while.

In terms of Grusser and this offer, I think it's only more critical if he commits to RU.

In terms of Mark Whipple, he is more on the older side and has far more talent at his disposal at Nebraska than he would at RU next year, even with Wimsatt and Brown playing major roles. Nebraska on offense has been woefully disappointing.....if he cannot produce offense at Nebraska with better players at pretty much every position there vs RU, how can we expect better results here with far less skill/talent??

We need someone who is going to elevate the basic execution of what we do well and help keep the RU defense off the field next year. Whipple is a higher tempo offense that doesn't run the ball enough and watching Nebraska, I don't see anything indicating he would be successful here.
This is rather silly saying Simon threw away a game with his two int's in the 1st qtr, but Wimsatt throwing two that gives away a 2nd half lead and destroys momentum is better.
 
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Interceptions are irrelevant to QB skill and upside.....the impact of the Interceptions (game situation, time and score and opponent) is far more relevant to discuss.

If Wimsatt has 4 to 5 Interceptions when attempting to score being down 2 or more TDs in a game or against an elite defense opponent, that is far different than Simon tossing away 2 potential wins, when the game was tied or RU held a lead at home against winnable oppone ts (Iowa and Nebraska).

It is clear to me, based on limited sample size, Wimsatt has far more ability and skills to build around than anyone RU has recruited at QB in a while.

In terms of Grusser and this offer, I think it's only more critical if he commits to RU.

In terms of Mark Whipple, he is more on the older side and has far more talent at his disposal at Nebraska than he would at RU next year, even with Wimsatt and Brown playing major roles. Nebraska on offense has been woefully disappointing.....if he cannot produce offense at Nebraska with better players at pretty much every position there vs RU, how can we expect better results here with far less skill/talent??

We need someone who is going to elevate the basic execution of what we do well and help keep the RU defense off the field next year. Whipple is a higher tempo offense that doesn't run the ball enough and watching Nebraska, I don't see anything indicating he would be successful here.
wimsatt thew interceptions in a tied or one score game vrs Michigan.Dont get that reasoning.Turnovers dont count if you are down 1- to 14 points? You really are spinning a take with that approach.
 
This is rather silly saying Simon threw away a game with his two int's in the 1st qtr, but Wimsatt throwing two that gives away a 2nd half lead and destroys momentum is better.
He's been clear since the start that he favors Wimsatt, so there are agendas in the messaging.
 
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