At least that's what I heard this morning on the radio. The Temple program, particularly when it's good, makes it hard for our Scarlet Knights to make a substantial impression in Southern New Jersey, which is part of the Philly media market that hawks stories like this.
Notre Dame-Temple is supposedly "the biggest college football game in Philly in a half-century
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Isn't that a bad thing? 1/2 century of a lot of nothing??
However it is a big game. Good for them. As an Irish Catholic I will proudly say Go Temple! Can't stand ND. (After that I couldn't care if Temple wins another game)
Temple will return to oblivion after this season. Lose their coach and a lot of seniors players who are playing great.
However it is a big game. Good for them. As an Irish Catholic I will proudly say Go Temple! Can't stand ND. (After that I couldn't care if Temple wins another game)
Temple will return to oblivion after this season. Lose their coach and a lot of seniors players who are playing great.
Well, it is, right? Temple hasn't been ranked since '79 and there home games were against Drake, Pitt, 'Cuse, Cinci, and Akron), none of whom were highly ranked at the time. Also, no Army/Navy games have been big in the last few decades, so can't really argue with this premise.
Sell out crowd in Philly? Temple showcasing for Power 5 invite. They better pull out the bells and whistles.
None of the thrilling Rutgers-Temple games at the Vet in the 80s and 90s qualify I guess, LOL.
It's probably the biggest game since a Penn game at Franklin Field for the Ivy championship circa the 60s.
It's probably the biggest game since a Penn game at Franklin Field for the Ivy championship circa the 60s.
I believe that the Penn State game this year sold out at Lincoln Financial Field, or at least that it was close. Of course, many of those fans were Philadelphians wanting a rare opportunity to see the Nittany Lions. Penn State seems very big in the Philly area; Penn State's doings are front sports page news here, while Rutgers is lucky to make the back pages. I do notice, though, that there is little or no mention of Penn State on WIP sports radio.
You do realize that they have 250k+ living alumni, and that they are the 26 largest university in the country, and that they are the largest employer in Philadelphia, and that the Philly TV stations dominate the region. Do you honestly expect Philadelphia TV not to cover and promote the team when it is doing well. People who refuse to recognize that a successful Temple football program is not in our best interest are clueless to the region.
Why not? If we learned anything from Rutgers to the Big Ten, it's that media market will trump just about anything if even basic competence can be established. So, a program that strings together a couple winning seasons in the nation's fourth-largest market ought to look pretty attractive to the ACC, which can use a presence in Philly to help draw in the Pitt/Syracuse/BC end of their footprint closer to the rest of the conference. They've also, as a conference, placed a higher priority on basketball than the other P5 conferences, which also helps Temple's case.
It's not that far-fetched...
They aren't the largest employer. The city is and they are way behind Comcast and others
I will root for temple this week . We had a nice game against them in the rain ! Remember the great tanardo sharps?
You are wrong, but so was I.
- Federal Government
- City of Philadelphia
- Trustees of the University of Pennsylvania
- School District of Philadelphia
- Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia
- Thomas Jefferson University Hospital
- SEPTA
- Temple University
- US Airways
- Albert Einstein Medical Center
- Temple University Hospital
- State Government
- Independence Blue Cross
- Drexel University
- Thomas Jefferson University
- Allied Barton Security Services
- Comcast Cablevision Corp.
- Pennsylvania Health
- Aria Health
- Hahnemann University Hospita
Bad list. But you are right about Federal being number 1 but most get an exemption from city wage tax and this list must be a few years old as Comcast now includes NBC national
Sorry, even combined Comcast does not employ as many people in Philly. This list comes directly from Harrisburg. Plus, if you add Temple U at 6 and Temple Univ Hospital at 11, they would move even further up the chart.
Philadelphia County
4th Quarter 2014
Initial Data
Federal and State Government Entities Aggregated
Rank Name of Employer Rank Name of Employer
1 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
2 CITY OF PHILADELPHIA
3 TRUSTEES OF THE UNIVERSITY OF PA
4 SCHOOL DISTRICT OF PHILADELPHIA
5 THE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL OF PHILA
6 TEMPLE UNIVERSITY
7 THOMAS JEFFERSON UNIVERSITY HOSP
8 SOUTHEASTERN PA TRANSPORTATION AUTH
9 US AIRWAYS INC
10 DREXEL UNIVERSITY
11 TEMPLE UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL INC
12 ALBERT EINSTEIN MEDICAL CENTER
13 STATE GOVERNMENT
14 INDEPENDENCE BLUE CROSS LLC
15 THOMAS JEFFERSON UNIVERSITY
16 ALLIEDBARTON SECURITY SERVICES LLC
17 COMCAST CABLEVISION CORP(PA)
18 PENNSYLVANIA HOSPITAL
19 ARIA HEALTH
20 HAHNEMANN UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL
21 CARDONE INDUSTRIES INC
22 WAL-MART ASSOCIATES INC
23 PRESBYTERIAN MEDICAL CENTER
24 WELLS FARGO NA
25 SMITHKLINE BEECHAM CORPORATION
26 ARAMARK SPORTS LLC
27 RESOURCES FOR HUMAN DEVELOPMENT INC
28 PNC BANK NA
29 JEFFERSON UNIVERSITY PHYSICIANS
30 PHILADELPHIA GAS WORKS
31 BAYADA HOME HEALTH CARE INC
32 ACE AMERICAN INSURANCE COMPANY
33 RITE AID OF PENNSYLVANIA INC
34 COMMUNITY COLLEGE OF PHILADELPHIA
35 UNITED PARCEL SERVICE INC
36 ST CHRISTOPHER'S HOSP FOR CHILDREN
37 NBC PHILADELPHIA MERCHANTS
38 SAINT JOSEPH'S UNIVERSITY
39 WAWA INC
40 PHILADELPHIA HOUSING
http://www.portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt?open=514&objID=1222720&mode=2
Ack! I didn't mean to imply that Philadelphians are somehow crazy for following a local school with tons of local alums-- just emphasizing that because of Penn State and Temple, it is hard for Rutgers to get much recognition in the Philly metro area, including South Jersey. BTW, it is hard for the Rutgers law school to compete with Temple because Temple has so many alums who will give preference to Temple grads. In addition, Temple;s offers good South Jersey students lower tuition than Rutgers Law does. Thanks to its alum base, Temple has resources.
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um yes it is far fetched. I am sure that schools like FSU and Clemson really want to invite Temple to water down their already water downed conference. If they didn't take UConn whose infrastructure and support dwarfs Temple I don't see them why would they take Temple. Of course if the Big 10 poaches a couple of ACC schools and the SEC grabs a couple then Temple could be considered and the league will basically be another Big East
also grasp that Rutgers has a lot more advantages than Temple has or will ever have
I agree with that. I don't think the ACC would be an overwhelming draw in the Philly area unless Temple somehow is dominating. I don't think there are enough ACC alums in the Philly area, and there's nothing intrinsically interesting about the ACC schools. And the Temple program has negative history, e.g. being bounced out of the Big East's football program. In addition, while Temple is building a stadium on campus, it would be about 35,000 -- not enough for a power conference. I would be surprised if Temple got into a power conference. Still I wish them well and hope they beat Notre Dame.
Because. Of. The. Market.
I thought it was a pretty easy concept. Again, refer to what we learned with the addition of Rutgers and Maryland to the Big Ten. Which of the Big Ten schools do you think wanted those two new schools watering down their quality and tradition? It's about the market, especially when the addition helps build a bridge to a league's northern outliers.
I'm not saying it's going to happen; just that it's not far-fetched.
Anybody who looks under the surface will realize that Temple was "bounced out" of the Big East's football program because it was never part of the Big East's all-sports program--most notably in the sport most synonymous with "bounces". And, they won't have to look far--just a few miles westward along the Main Line.
They've got a good presence in it, but nothing that a strong Temple wouldn't overshadow. There are many more Temple alums in metro Philadelphia than Nits. Something like 1 in 7 Philadelphians is a Temple alum.
a mediocre Rutgers got into the Big 10 a conference that dwarfs the ACC in..well..just about everything. It would take an incredible strong Temple to garner an invitation to the ACC...what are Temples ratings...do they even deliver the market. There was no question that RU had the highest rated college rating in NYC for a few ESPN games, now you have a lesser market in Philly. I would have to say Penn State owns this market.
so how is Temple going to string a few years of 11-1 together, will they hang onto Rhule. because that's what its going to take for the ACC to notice
so how is Temple going to string a few years of 11-1 together, will they hang onto Rhule. because that's what its going to take for the ACC to notice
As in North Jersey ain't we part of the Philly market AND NYC/NJ Demo..is there any UMd overlap too in the Philly market....seems solidly B1G to me.
So unlike NYC/NNJ.......South Jersey ain't part of the Philly market...thats what i'm interested in as Temple gets less fans than us at there home games. I'm not familiar with the rural part of the/my state though i've been to AC and the Pine Barrens and assumed Philly covered the southern tier....
I do understand we'd recruited the Philly environs fairly well before GS left and even stole some PSU targets there.Muller/Savage/Reddick/Lambert....not sure how many were PSU targets but i remember it was a few...even heard Eastern Penn was PSU'S weakest section in that state. AFA Temple...well they get whats left usually after us and Md or anyone relevant in the recruiting wars..
Temple to the ACC instead of UConn would be the Huskies' worst nightmare.
That would imply they've reached saturation, which they have not. There's plenty of room for a strong local presence. Proximity is everything.
Maybe they'd take both? Again, the ACC seems to place more priority on basketball prowess than other P5 conferences, so that helps, and Storrs would also help create that "land bridge" to BC and Syracuse, which are essentially forgotten right now.
Then I'm all for it.
As an added bonus, Temple in the ACC would really drive the Villanova fans apoplectic.
Temple is going to build a 35k stadium by their campus. Not worthy of an invite anywhere with a stadium that size. It will never happen
It wouldn't be the smallest in the ACC - Wake's and Duke's are smaller - and is also being designed to easily expand to 55,000 with no issues and at minimal (relatively speaking) cost. It's not an issue.
