Was going to ask the same but I didn't see his conclusion. @RU4Real, what percentage drop do you anticipate based on your survey which seemed to be a sizable sample ?
46.8%
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Was going to ask the same but I didn't see his conclusion. @RU4Real, what percentage drop do you anticipate based on your survey which seemed to be a sizable sample ?
I was optimistic and thought Mehringer was going to be a spark plug for recruiting and energizing the players, but it did not take long to figure out that his lack of experience at the P5 level was a major Achilles heel. On top of that, he did not have the experience, hindsight or foresight to realize that forcing a pro-style QB (who was not a world beater to begin with, but serviceable) into his system was a really bad move. And Ash apparently had absolutely no clue that what Merhringer was doing was going to fail. Oddly, however, Ash recognized in practice that Gio had a better skill set for Mehringer's offense.
I recognized Gio's potential in Feb. 2016 by a review of his HS film.
https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/threads/gio-the-dual-threat-qb.74153/
Maybe if Ash had done the same and worked on developing Gio earlier in Spring 2016, just maybe he would developed a little better as a starting QB. But Ash had said that he did not look at any player's past film, either 2015 film at Rutgers (and probably HS film) to get a sense for what their capabilities were.
The guy just seems to have some rigid, formulaic ways of doing things, and does not deviate from them. Sometimes you have to deviate from internal playbook and take risks to succeed. But risk-taking is not something Ash does.
Our 25-person, 7 parking tag (2 Scarlet, 5 Yellow) ticket group (Sections 105, 104, 103) that started as 4 persons in the early 90’s to the 25 persons at the peak of Schiano era has dwindled in 2019 to 2 cheapest seats and no parking tags. Of our peak 25 person group, only 2 were Rutgers alumni. Everyone was either a NJ native and/or resident, proud to have something to root for. Since Schiano left there has been a complete disconnect between prices and the product and results and the idea that things were getting better. The ticket office’s direction of Current Giving over consecutive years of buying tickets and parking tags soured everyone. That business model may make sense to the decision makers who do not pay for their own tickets and parking tags, but not to the NJ folks who actually pony up their money and understand we are not Ohio State and Michigan and Penn State. And the sense of buying seats in sections requiring additional giving and two minutes into the games seeing the hordes of cheap ticket buyers descend on our sections only hammered home the fact that we were suckers.
Someday we will have leadership and decision makers in-place to make the commitment needed to compete and win in the Big Ten, not just participate. You need to hire the right coaches, drop the provincial NJ recruiting paradigm, and do things that build the fan base rather than have it question its own sanity.
That said ... go Rutgers.
Flood took attendance to the top of the mountain! Get him back after his rehab stint with Nick and the Tide!For your perusal:
For your perusal:
Total BS news. Tickets distributed [ reported} are meaningless.
24,400 actual fans were the average at games in HPSS in 2017. We will see actual 2018 shortly. Your projectory is unfortunately true. Will be back at pre 2006 levels this season.
Will rebound when the RU Administration does the right thing for the Football program.
What was the sample size?
Interesting. Was this was the renewal rate of the 100 plus accounts or # of tickets renewed?Just under 100 season ticket accounts.
Interesting. Was this was the renewal rate of the 100 plus accounts or # of tickets renewed?
Thanks. When I was reading that thread I did not think it was this bad. I was actually a little surprised at how many were still renewing. This puts it in better perspective.The focus was seat count.
Thanks. When I was reading that thread I did not think it was this bad. I was actually a little surprised at how many were still renewing. This puts it in better perspective.
How is Hobbs going to spin it this year on the 150th anniversary. Last year it was the Yankee stadium game. This year, I have no idea what the hell he is going to say.
2015 - 31,168
2016 - 28,478
2017 - 23,812
2018 - 22,337
2019 - ?????
I would’ve said less than 1% given the major state universities becoming regular home opponents. Say we lose 20k season ticket holders in 4 years. That’s like $10m a year. This is an epic f up.
$10million a year lost is a gross understatement for 20,000 lost season tickethoders. It’s a lot more than $500 per ticketholder. With lost ticket revenue, seat gift donations, Parking, Concession sales, Donations to the Program it has to be closer to $1000 per season ticket sold. Looking at $20 million lost per year with the base dropping by 20,000. OMG :cry:
But yeah, it was too big a financial cross to bear to eat Ash's contract and stanch the bleeding. [pfftt]
There is a financial impact from people cutting their ticket total, and another that is impossible to measure right now of people downgrading their tickets.$10million a year lost is a gross understatement for 20,000 lost season tickethoders. It’s a lot more than $500 per ticketholder. With lost ticket revenue, seat gift donations, Parking, Concession sales, Donations to the Program it has to be closer to $1000 per season ticket sold. Looking at $20 million lost per year with the base dropping by 20,000. OMG :cry:
So who can I turn to?This year Jenny told me the number 8675309.
For your perusal:
yet Roy Hobbs just dosent get it..about keeping Asherror.The worst part about the drop is that those tickets aren't coming back at nearly the same rate that they were lost. Years of progress have been eroded and it's not being rebuilt short of a miracle.
Actually this problem goes all the way back to the hiring of Julie. I believe that we had the Assistant AD of Whisky as a finalist, someone who worked closely with Alvarez and understood how to run a P5 football program. Yet somehow we end up with two AD's with no experience running a football program or evaluating a football coach. This is how we got here.yet Roy Hobbs just dosent get it..about keeping Asherror.
Also probably the most disgruntled and whiny fans too.Also, that's 46% of people that care enough to take the time to read and post on a Rutgers message board, ie. the hardcore fans.
Yes, because those are the only fans that bother to participate on a message board.Also probably the most disgruntled and whiny fans too.
yet Roy Hobbs just dosent get it..about keeping Asherror.
There are only two real choices with our results. Disgruntled or disinterested.Also probably the most disgruntled and whiny fans too.
There are more. I am not disgruntled or disinterested.There are only two real choices with our results. Disgruntled or disinterested.
There are more. I am not disgruntled or disinterested.
I am actually interested to see how the season turns out. If it turns out well, then great. If it does not turn out well, will be interested to see if Hobbs cans Ash. If the latter happens, and there is no canned Ash, I may become disinterested for 2020.
Doubt you will find many head in sand fans. We all know what we have in a coach. Just waiting for the shoe to drop sooner or later. Some don't whine about it. Some do.There's also the head in the sand fans. Fans are whiney when team goes 1-11? SMH to that logic.
Renewed today. Down from a high of 12 in 2012 to 8 last year to 5.
Interesting conversation with the ticket rep. They finally got back to me after 4 messages! I asked Jack why it took so long to get back and if they were busy? To be told not busy at all just don't have anyone left to answer the phone and return calls.
Can't make this up if I tried.
I left 2 messages on Friday. One to my reps number and one to the main number. Left 2 messages today and replied to a twitter post that was begging people to renew. I am thinking the only reason I received a return call is because of my twitter post.On the website it said ‘phone sales until 9pm’. I tried to call after work a few times; my calls went directly to voicemail (1-866-GORU).
Joe P.
While I'm confident even a geologist can do the math right (j/k), I'd have to say that that number is very unlikely to be correct - can't imagine more than a 10-15% drop off...46.8%