OFFICIAL NET Thread - 2022/23

[fatsam98]

Rutgers checking in at a very healthy #30

Not seeing the full listing published but this is per Brad Wachtel



Here’s a look at where the Big Ten stands….

3. Purdue
6. Maryland
10. Indiana
13. Illinois
20. Iowa
28. Ohio State
30. Rutgers
51. Penn State
59. Nebraska
76. Northwestern
77. Wisconsin
92. Michigan State
114. Michigan
227. Minnesota

NOTABLE OOC RANKINGS….
47. Miami (FL)
53. UMass-Lowell
86. Wake Forest
121. Seton Hall
155. Temple
188. Bucknell
212. Coppin St
215. Rider
291. Sacred Heart
337. Columbia
348. Central Connecticut St

 

[kcg88]

Full list here: https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

 

[BillyC80]

Since NET started, have we ever been rated higher than North Carolina?

 

[kcg88]

Sam Houston at #7 the obvious dumb outlier with road wins at Oklahoma and Utah plus two neutral court blowouts over NIU and South Dakota carrying them.

 

[ScarletDave]

Good for UConn. They sacrificed their football program to take a chance on basketball saving itself. Looks like it has. They are in the Big East which is a shell of its former self but better than nothing. At least they can beat up on lowly St John’s and Georgetown and pretend it’s 1985.

 

[RU82]

Louisville 361

Yikes!

 

[Zak57]

Rutgers is:

Q1 1-1
Q2 1-0
Q3 0-1
Q4 4-0

Miami is 47. Temple 155.

 

[ScarletDave]

LOL at Louisville … imagine after that 90-30 or whatever game in the AAC tourney, the projection of both programs years later. We are 1 spot behind Gonzaga, and they are 2 spots from being relegated to Division II

 

[kcg88]

Rutgers is:

Q1 1-1
Q2 1-0
Q3 0-1
Q4 4-0

Miami is 47. Temple 155.

Bummer about Temple. We need them top 100 to bump that loss to Q2.

 

[kcg88]

UMass Lowell is #53 so that's currently a Q2 that will almost definitely move to Q3.

 

[fatsam98]

Big Ten:

3. Purdue
6. Maryland
10. Indiana
13. Illinois
20. Iowa
28. Ohio State
30. Rutgers
51. Penn State
59. Nebraska
76. Northwestern
77. Wisconsin
92. Michigan State
114. Michigan
227. Minnesota

 

[Scarlet Blind]

#293 1-9 Florida St vs #361 0-8 Louisville this Saturday

It has to be the worst Power conference game since power conferences exist.

All analytics said Rutgers was going to start around #30.

 

[bac2therac]

30 is great opening spot. Means the issue we had last year withe overall NET wont be happening

BUT its very early. There will be wild shifts as only 25% of the season has been played and conference play hasnt started for most.

 

[bac2therac]

Indiana has Arizona and Kansas coming up so even in losses they are going to be well taken care of

 

[bac2therac]

Has anyone seen the net sos

 

[Zak57]

Has anyone seen the net sos

Rutgers is 165 in NET SOS. 239 NONCONF SOS. Link below.

NCAA Statistics

 

[Zak57]

Team Stats - Through games 12/04/2022
Stat	Rank	Value
Scoring Offense	164​	73.1​
Scoring Defense	7​	54.1​
Scoring Margin	16​	19.0​
Winning Percentage	T-67​	75.0​
Field Goal Percentage	275​	42.2​
Free Throw Percentage	T-168​	70.5​
Three Point Percentage	276​	31.2​
Free Throws Made Per Game	T-45​	15.5​
Three Pointers Per Game	T-312​	5.6​
Free Throw Attempts Per Game	T-37​	22.0​
Three Point Attempts Per Game	306​	18.0​
Field Goal Percentage Defense	8​	35.4​
Three Point Percentage Defense	1​	20.6​
Fouls Per Game	T-111​	15.8​
Rebound Margin	T-60​	6.0​
Rebounds (Offensive) Per Game	7​	14.75​
Rebounds (Defensive) Per Game	T-100​	26.75​
Rebounds Per Game	19​	41.50​
Assist/Turnover Ratio	101​	1.16​
Turnovers Forced Per Game	T-25​	18.00​
Effective FG pct	299​	0.476​

 

[bac2therac]

Rutgers is 165 in NET SOS. 239 NONCONF SOS. Link below.

NCAA Statistics

Thanks...yeah thats what i thought about ooc sos...it is better than last year but still on the sketchy side..wake and shi will help

 

[BillyC80]

Rutgers is 165 in NET SOS. 239 NONCONF SOS. Link below.

NCAA Statistics

We know that will improve dramatically with league play.

 

[Zak57]

#1 in 3 point percentage D!! #7 in scoring D. I don't remember all this information being posted by NCAA or I just never looked. It's probably the latter.

 

[RU72]

Full list here: https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

Great start and they won't lose to Bucknell, so all good. But,this is an advertisement on a billboard to play Princeton annually. Mitch will play 2-1 at the RAC. On the road,it would be a Quad one win. And who wouldn't pay to see Cliff vs.Tosan just once? I would and so would all alums who covet beating the Tigers in anything.

 

[BillyC80]

Team Stats - Through games 12/04/2022
Stat	Rank	Value
Scoring Offense	164​	73.1​
Scoring Defense	7​	54.1​
Scoring Margin	16​	19.0​
Winning Percentage	T-67​	75.0​
Field Goal Percentage	275​	42.2​
Free Throw Percentage	T-168​	70.5​
Three Point Percentage	276​	31.2​
Free Throws Made Per Game	T-45​	15.5​
Three Pointers Per Game	T-312​	5.6​
Free Throw Attempts Per Game	T-37​	22.0​
Three Point Attempts Per Game	306​	18.0​
Field Goal Percentage Defense	8​	35.4​
Three Point Percentage Defense	1​	20.6​
Fouls Per Game	T-111​	15.8​
Rebound Margin	T-60​	6.0​
Rebounds (Offensive) Per Game	7​	14.75​
Rebounds (Defensive) Per Game	T-100​	26.75​
Rebounds Per Game	19​	41.50​
Assist/Turnover Ratio	101​	1.16​
Turnovers Forced Per Game	T-25​	18.00​
Effective FG pct	299​	0.476​

Imagine, we’re ranked 164th in scoring average but 16th in scoring margin. Defense much?

 

[RedTeam1994]

Sam Houston at #7 the obvious dumb outlier with road wins at Oklahoma and Utah plus two neutral court blowouts over NIU and South Dakota carrying them.

With wins like that why are they a “dumb outlier” at this point?

If a blue blood had that early resume you wouldn’t think twice

 

[RUtrumpet92]

Who would've thought the 2nd and 3rd lowest B1G teams at this stage would be Michigan and Michigan State? Wow!

This is a fantastic start for us. Finish strong non-conference, get some road wins, defend the RAC, and we will be dancing again.

Big East with only one team in the top 32.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

30 is great opening spot. Means the issue we had last year withe overall NET wont be happening

BUT its very early. There will be wild shifts as only 25% of the season has been played and conference play hasnt started for most.

Yes. If our NET goes down it is because we are losing.

 

[Salvi's Headband]

Good for UConn. They sacrificed their football program to take a chance on basketball saving itself. Looks like it has. They are in the Big East which is a shell of its former self but better than nothing. At least they can beat up on lowly St John’s and Georgetown and pretend it’s 1985.

And the football team is bowling

 

[JavaDunk18]

What about the PALM index 😏?
Hopefully get some Road wins to keep him quiet..

 

[Eagleton96]

Two thoughts.

1. I remember how amazed everyone was back in the Kevin Bannon era that we were RPI #36 in his best year. It was a giddy feeling, and it went away fast as we lost key games down the stretch and didn't make the Tournament. Now we are #30 and nobody is satisfied and most agree this team has plenty of rough patches and room for improvement. Just some perspective as we think about what Pike has done.

2. So much for the Big 10 being down. We are #30 in NET and that only counts for 7th place in the Conference.

Bonus thought: OSU game is huge.

 

[bac2therac]

We know that will improve dramatically with league play.

The ooc sos will stay similar

 

[BillyC80]

The ooc sos will stay similar

Yes. Wasn’t our overall SOS similar at this time last year, and then by the end of conference play it was down around 70 or so?

 

[mikeyo]

Good for UConn. They sacrificed their football program to take a chance on basketball saving itself. Looks like it has. They are in the Big East which is a shell of its former self but better than nothing. At least they can beat up on lowly St John’s and Georgetown and pretend it’s 1985.

UConn is a serious team

 

[bac2therac]

Yes. Wasn’t our overall SOS similar at this time last year, and then by the end of conference play it was down around 70 or so?

Our ooc sos last year was around 300...our overall sos was very good dont have the number offhand but it was probably top 40..two different metrics

Rutgers was one of the rare few teams to get an at large with a ooc near or over 300

 

[DennisHajekRC84]

Team Stats - Through games 12/04/2022
Stat	Rank	Value
Scoring Offense	164​	73.1​
Scoring Defense	7​	54.1​
Scoring Margin	16​	19.0​
Winning Percentage	T-67​	75.0​
Field Goal Percentage	275​	42.2​
Free Throw Percentage	T-168​	70.5​
Three Point Percentage	276​	31.2​
Free Throws Made Per Game	T-45​	15.5​
Three Pointers Per Game	T-312​	5.6​
Free Throw Attempts Per Game	T-37​	22.0​
Three Point Attempts Per Game	306​	18.0​
Field Goal Percentage Defense	8​	35.4​
Three Point Percentage Defense	1​	20.6​
Fouls Per Game	T-111​	15.8​
Rebound Margin	T-60​	6.0​
Rebounds (Offensive) Per Game	7​	14.75​
Rebounds (Defensive) Per Game	T-100​	26.75​
Rebounds Per Game	19​	41.50​
Assist/Turnover Ratio	101​	1.16​
Turnovers Forced Per Game	T-25​	18.00​
Effective FG pct	299​	0.476​

Thanks for that. #1 in 3pt Defense lol. what were we last year? 250?

 

[Scangg]

Team Stats - Through games 12/04/2022
Stat	Rank	Value
Scoring Offense	164​	73.1​
Scoring Defense	7​	54.1​
Scoring Margin	16​	19.0​
Winning Percentage	T-67​	75.0​
Field Goal Percentage	275​	42.2​
Free Throw Percentage	T-168​	70.5​
Three Point Percentage	276​	31.2​
Free Throws Made Per Game	T-45​	15.5​
Three Pointers Per Game	T-312​	5.6​
Free Throw Attempts Per Game	T-37​	22.0​
Three Point Attempts Per Game	306​	18.0​
Field Goal Percentage Defense	8​	35.4​
Three Point Percentage Defense	1​	20.6​
Fouls Per Game	T-111​	15.8​
Rebound Margin	T-60​	6.0​
Rebounds (Offensive) Per Game	7​	14.75​
Rebounds (Defensive) Per Game	T-100​	26.75​
Rebounds Per Game	19​	41.50​
Assist/Turnover Ratio	101​	1.16​
Turnovers Forced Per Game	T-25​	18.00​
Effective FG pct	299​	0.476​

7th in offensive rebounding. Cliff Caleb and Mag are a tough group to stop if they are crashing the offensive boards

 

[BillyC80]

Our ooc sos last year was around 300...our overall sos was very good dont have the number offhand but it was probably top 40..two different metrics

Rutgers was one of the rare few teams to get an at large with a ooc near or over 300

Does the NET count OOC sos as a separate metric to determine the NET score, or just the overall SOS?

 

[Scangg]

Two thoughts.

1. I remember how amazed everyone was back in the Kevin Bannon era that we were RPI #36 in his best year. It was a giddy feeling, and it went away fast as we lost key games down the stretch and didn't make the Tournament. Now we are #30 and nobody is satisfied and most agree this team has plenty of rough patches and room for improvement. Just some perspective as we think about what Pike has done.

2. So much for the Big 10 being down. We are #30 in NET and that only counts for 7th place in the Conference.

Bonus thought: OSU game is huge.

The B1G is never down seemingly despite people claiming it will be

 

[bac2therac]

Its overall factored in but the selection committee does consider both overall and non conference

College basketball's NET rankings, explained

Here's everything you need to know about college basketball's NET ranking system.

www.google.com

 

[RUChoppin]

The ooc sos will stay similar

SHU and Wake should help it a bit, though.

 

[BillyC80]

Its overall factored in but the selection committee does consider both overall and non conference

College basketball's NET rankings, explained

Here's everything you need to know about college basketball's NET ranking system.

www.google.com

Gonna be interesting to see how the committee evaluates MSU come tournament time. Their OOC sos (including 3 losses) is 27 but their NET is 92 right now.

By comparison our OOC sos is 239 with 2 losses, and yet our NET is 30. Seems like the biggest impact so far is our home win over Indy vs the MSU home loss to NW.

Playing a 20-game B1G schedule can really move the needle one way or the other.

 

[fluoxetine]

They are putting an emphasis on against the spread +/- in this year's NET

Betting. Lines. Have. Nothing. To. Do. With. NET.

Say it with me:
“Betting lines have nothing to do with NET”
“Betting lines have nothing to do with NET”