With some sourcing by Aaron Breitman
http://www.onthebanks.com/2017/3/25...tgers-basketball-to-add-big-ten-steve-pikiell
http://www.onthebanks.com/2017/3/25...tgers-basketball-to-add-big-ten-steve-pikiell
On the Banks: Potential Players to Replace Nigel
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Thanks for the article. Moore, Collins and Lake intrigue me. The Penn State transfer Thorpe will have to sit, which then has to be calculated into the 2018 season. I am confident Pikiell and company will find complimentary players for next season. Collins, the sharp shooter really could be one of those interesting additions.
Thorpe won't have to sit. He's a grad transfer out of USF. He originally played at PSU. The Bryant transfer will have to sit.
Seriously if there is a chance to get Zouzoua it would be amazing.
19 pts vs. Notre Dame
22 pts vs. Gonzaga
24 pts vs. Northwestern
and he chucks threes like no tomorrow, 37% for the year, and 9 times last year he had double digit attempts, including 7-14 against Cent. Conn. St.
The second guy I would get is Lake. Having a big man like that would help alot.
19 pts vs. Notre Dame
22 pts vs. Gonzaga
24 pts vs. Northwestern
and he chucks threes like no tomorrow, 37% for the year, and 9 times last year he had double digit attempts, including 7-14 against Cent. Conn. St.
The second guy I would get is Lake. Having a big man like that would help alot.
Moore is from Hatboro Horsham, Pa. which is only 59 miles from New Brunswick. I would like to land him, Thorpe and Lake if at all possible.
Why not dream? Thorpe and Lake would be terrific:
1) A 6'4" shooting guard - not as purely athletic as Johnson, but smooth, a shooter and 6'4" versus 6'0"
2) A mobile athletic post player.
Sign me up if RU could get those 2.
1) A 6'4" shooting guard - not as purely athletic as Johnson, but smooth, a shooter and 6'4" versus 6'0"
2) A mobile athletic post player.
Sign me up if RU could get those 2.
Per the article, Aaron has sources that says we've reached out to a few of these guys. As for chances... who knows? Recruiting is a strange game.
Recruiting is easy but closing the deal is hard especially with a track record of losing.
Nice list. The only one i would have almost no interest in would be Samuels who would literally just be a body added to the roster. Penn St is not a good team and he was barely a contributor there.
Go for Zizou, as we will be thin at guard next year.
Next landing spot for Thorpe will be his third college- red flag.
Samuels, skip.
Clifton Moore, high upside. Has a cool skillset at the moment. Will need to get bigger, but could definitely be a helper down the line. He is a power forward from what I have read.
Lake- grab if possible. I like his skill set, and he seems to be of high character.
Not into this one year players as we are trying to build a team for the future, not just one year.
Next landing spot for Thorpe will be his third college- red flag.
Samuels, skip.
Clifton Moore, high upside. Has a cool skillset at the moment. Will need to get bigger, but could definitely be a helper down the line. He is a power forward from what I have read.
Lake- grab if possible. I like his skill set, and he seems to be of high character.
Not into this one year players as we are trying to build a team for the future, not just one year.
Shooter vs Non Shooter
Samuel is in the non shooter bucket (aka Deplorables). I like what i saw of him, but.......he is in the discard pile.
Samuel is in the non shooter bucket (aka Deplorables). I like what i saw of him, but.......he is in the discard pile.
Geno Thorpe in the shooter bucket. Not that you would call him a "shooter". 39-104 .375 last year (he'd look like a righty Chris Mullin to us). 3rd school would be a concern. He looks to be a PG with a decent amount of assists, but he isn't afraid to turn it over :weary:. 104-123 from the line 84.6%. Translates to 70% in a red uniform, but still great to us!
One bizarre thing to add to the discussion, REAL bizarre. Kenpom has for every year 5 guys that a player is similar to. Always random and someone recent. For Thorpe...
Similar: Manny Quezada '08 (933), Trant Simpson '08 (928), Norris Cole '10 (927), Marquis Hall '09 (924), Ken Williams '16 (923)
:scream:
One bizarre thing to add to the discussion, REAL bizarre. Kenpom has for every year 5 guys that a player is similar to. Always random and someone recent. For Thorpe...
Similar: Manny Quezada '08 (933), Trant Simpson '08 (928), Norris Cole '10 (927), Marquis Hall '09 (924), Ken Williams '16 (923)
:scream:
Example
Freeman 201-17 Similar: Cory Cooperwood '09 (947), Jalen Jones '15 (943), Devin Booker '12 (939), Ovie Soko '12 (937), Cliff Ederaine '11 (937)
Mike Williams Similar: Paris Horne '10 (936), Dwayne Jackson '08 (934), Andre Jones '11 (932), Marvin Gentry '07 (930), Craig Craft '08 (926)
Candido Sa Similar: Donovon Jack '15 (927), Andy Buechert '08 (926), Patrick Onwenu '14 (924), Adrian Forbes '11 (923), Andrew Zimmermann '11 (923)
Corey Sanders Similar: Trumaine Johnson '09 (926), Tra Holder '16 (925), Tamir Jackson '11 (922), Jamal Branch '13 (921), Corey Chandler '09 (920)
Freeman 201-17 Similar: Cory Cooperwood '09 (947), Jalen Jones '15 (943), Devin Booker '12 (939), Ovie Soko '12 (937), Cliff Ederaine '11 (937)
Mike Williams Similar: Paris Horne '10 (936), Dwayne Jackson '08 (934), Andre Jones '11 (932), Marvin Gentry '07 (930), Craig Craft '08 (926)
Candido Sa Similar: Donovon Jack '15 (927), Andy Buechert '08 (926), Patrick Onwenu '14 (924), Adrian Forbes '11 (923), Andrew Zimmermann '11 (923)
Corey Sanders Similar: Trumaine Johnson '09 (926), Tra Holder '16 (925), Tamir Jackson '11 (922), Jamal Branch '13 (921), Corey Chandler '09 (920)
I'm speculating on the reason he's transferring but he was one of two players left behind in an airport by uSF this year.
http://www.thedailystampede.com/pla...ston-geno-thorpe-left-behind-at-airport-tulsa
How does that happ
How does that happen, and how much of that is on the player?
Does that count as a top three reason?If so, the whole Michigan team would be out the door.
How does that happen, and how much of that is on the player?
Does that count as a top three reason?If so, the whole Michigan team would be out the door.
Rutgers has lacked a team for the future for decades.Winning matters now especially with the loss of at least 4 players next season because of graduation or other reasons.There will be little or no experience with the 2018 team and a winning season will be doubtful.
I first looked at 3rd team as a red flag but after reading this, completely understand his leaving.
But if you have room and don't have better options with guys who have more eligibility, they can make the team better which should help recruiting down the line.
Getting CJ was a positive for the program.
For sure. I touted CJs potential on arrival. Still, to get a guy for one year is not exactly how you rebuild a program. I remember Pikiell said he is very selective. You first find out why Thorpe is transferring, what he expects, and go from there.
Sanders likely returns and runs the point guard for 30 minutes next year. Mike Williams is worthy of 25+. Where does that put Thorpe?Do you bring in Thorpe to replace Williams?I don't think this staff will work like that.
Zouzoua.....I have to assume all transfers are 2 for 1s. 6'2'' 190 2 guards are plentiful. My questions....
1. Why did he end up at Bryant and not a better school
2. Why was Bryant so bad. I know he is 1 of 5 players. Either his teammates are real bad or he isn't a difference maker
3. How is his defense?
4. Career .362 3 point shooter....not bad, but not .400+
1. Why did he end up at Bryant and not a better school
2. Why was Bryant so bad. I know he is 1 of 5 players. Either his teammates are real bad or he isn't a difference maker
3. How is his defense?
4. Career .362 3 point shooter....not bad, but not .400+
Assuming Doucoure reclassifies, we are at 12 players for next year. How does it hurt rebuilding to bring in an one year player? We will still have that spot for the 2018 class
I said nothing about Thorpe, the staff will complete their due diligence on any one they are considering adding to the team.
I would rather a kid like the indy decommitt than Thorpe. I also do not know where Thorpe fits in on this team. I trust whatever the staff does, and fully believe we have one of the best the school has ever seen.
A JJ Moore would be TERRIBLE for the rebuilding effort. Chemistry and attitude are very important. We struck gold with CJ. Most are not like him. You have to ask yourself why would anyone come here? It isn't to win and be in the NCAA tournament.
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