OT: 100 year anniversary of the first transatlantic flight

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  1. DJ Spanky

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    So was there anything distinctive about Lindbergh's flight, except that he did it solo? Not to take anything away from Lindbergh, but it probably didn't hurt that his father was a Congressman.
     
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    The Spirit of Saint Louis was completely overloaded with fuel (450 gallons) such that for the first 10 hours of the trip Lindbergh was unable to climb higher than a few hundred feet. On the Atlantic crossing he couldn't fly higher than 10,000 and so was forced to fly through all of the weather on the way across - storms, ice and fog. The trip took more than 33 hours, during which Lindbergh had to hand fly the aircraft the whole time (no autopilot) and continually recalculate his dead reckoning position because he had no navigational instruments of any kind, other than a compass.
     
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    Well cocaine was legal back then.
     
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    I'm laughing because I got this mental image of Lindbergh trying to lay out lines on a hand mirror in the wind-blown cockpit of his airplane.
     
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    It really is incredible. I can't even navigate through my development sometimes without getting lost!
     
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    The entire front section of the Spirit of St. Louis was an improvised fuel tank. The plane didn’t have a windshield as a result. Lindbergh used a type of periscope in a side window to get a forward view.
     
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    C'mon - Newfoundland to Ireland is not Roosevelt, Long Island,NY to Paris, France solo. They could have thrown a rock and it would have been more impressive. That's why nobody gives a crap about them.
     
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    The big thing about Lindbergh was the fact he went Solo.

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    The Man From U.N.C.L.E. reference for our younger viewers.
     
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    And later on his baby was kidnapped and murdered. Trial of the century in Flemington, NJ.
     
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    And there is still controversy about whether the right man was convicted. And if we're going to go through LIndbergh's history, we have to mention his activities in America First, which was formed after te outbreak of World War II in 1939 to advocate that the U.S. neither enter the war or aid Great Britain against Hitler. The organization had the sense to break up after Pearl Harbor and the German declaration of war against the United States. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

    Should also mention that this wife, Anne Morrow Lindbergh, wrote one of the first openly feminist books, A Gift from the Sea.
     
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    Again, this is about Alcock and Brown - aircraft technology was so incredibly primitive that people were killed regularly in those days flying. Hell, Alcock was killed 6 or 8 months later.
     
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    Yes, they deserve far more recognition. But LIndbergh's feat is what captured the public's imagination.
     
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    And apparently your consternation. ;)
     
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    I've heard it said that Alcock had no balls.
     
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    Agree, throwing a rock from Newfoundland to Ireland would have been pretty damn impressive. But a 1919 flight there is pretty impressive too.
     
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    Not at all. The OP might be described that way, but to me it's natural that a solo flight from NYC to Paris would attract the attention I regret that LIndbergh used his celebrity to advance bad causes, but he would hardly be the only way in that category. Consider, for instance, the actress Jennifer Biel, who is arguably supporting anti-vaxxers.
     
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    Alcock???
    Sounds like a Game of Thrones brothel owner.
     
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    One of the special New Jersey lawyers assigned to the prosecution team of Bruno Hauptman in the Lindgergh baby kidnapping case was Judge George K. Large - son of George Large... the last man standing who played for Rutgers in the November 6, 1869 inaugural football game.
     
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    Not really - imo

    It was after WW1 and think those guys were WW1 vets - from what I read but the Red Baron had shot down a crap load of planes by that time - there is no doubt in my mind that fighter pilots had flown farther over land by that time - they just did over water...did i dis them enough?

    I mean the Germans in WW1 had a bomber bigger than almost anything in WWII - Gotha Bomber. So these guys were no idiots back in the 19teens. These guys were flying at 14,000 ft with enclosed cockpits - so not so primitive and this was the year before their flght.

     
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    Yes, really. Aviation technology was nothing at the time. And both Alcock and Brown ended up as POW's so didn't actually do much during the war.
     
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    Just saying in 1919 it wasn't the Wright Brothers flying at 10 feet for 3 seconds over the sands of Kitty Hawk - the boys are flying at 14 thousand feet at 100 mph in 1918 per the war.
     
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    If anyone wants to read a great book on the Lindbergh kidnapping, check out Cemetery John by Robert Zorn. Zorn contends his father was briefly befriended by the men who tried kidnapping the baby. He spent years and years researching the case and puts forth pretty compelling evidence as to what actually happened that night.
     
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    All that meant was that the Germans breathed oxygen through tubes from bottles... pressurized cockpits weren’t invented until 1920.
     
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    And weren't in any kind of widespread use for decades after that. The famed B-17, workhorse of the European bombing campaign in WWII, was unpressurized - and unheated - and routinely flew missions at 30,000'.
     
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    Worth the watch...

    https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/the-cold-blue



    God Bless all of them.
     
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    If I recall correctly did not a French aviator try the same feat as Lucky Lindy a few weeks earlier and disappear over the Atlantic? You have to give Lindy credit for having the balls to try, something based upon the technology of the day, was no sure thing. Had he gotten into trouble due to a mechanical problem or his navigation off he was going to die.
     
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    I have just read a long biography of Winston Churchill. He had to travel very long distances several times during World War II to meet with Stalin and Roosevelt, and he always flew in unpressurized planes. That's impressive considering he was 66 when he became prime minister, and that he served until age 71.
     

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