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OT: 2019 Mets Season Thread

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So many complaints about a 6-2 team leading the division. Davis sucks. Nimmo sucks. Bullpen sucks. Callaway sucks. Hoover sucks. Dyson sucks.

Dyson definitely sucks. He's a terrible hitter. But some of his ideas on space travel are pretty good.
 
Dyson definitely sucks. He's a terrible hitter. But some of his ideas on space travel are pretty good.
It was a vacuum cleaner joke. Note also the reference to Hoover. Hopefully they will not go from suck to blow.
 
It was a vacuum cleaner joke. Note also the reference to Hoover. Hopefully they will not go from suck to blow.
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Crowd amped for an early April game. Please be our year...
Arms need to stay healthy and Brodie needs to work on getting pieces for the bullpen, Diaz is solid, in fact I think he has a chance to be the best closer the Mets ever had, and Familia should be a solid setup man despite today's performance, however it's the bullpens front end that concerns me.

But if arms stay strong and bullpen gets better, you have to like our chances.
 
They need to revamp the front end of the bullpen. Wilson, familia, Diaz and maybe Lugo are the only good ones. The others need to be upgraded. It just seemed like there was no way they were going to hold the lead up 1-0 and then 3-1. It is the same thing as last year
 
I hate to say it because I always liked him and he's a Jersey guy but we should release Frazier when he comes off the DL, it's going to be hard enough getting him playing time as it is but when Jed Lowrie gets off the DL too? Mets probably made a mistake signing both JD Davis and Lowrie especially if it's going to steal away at-bats from Jeff McNeil, at least Davis can play the OF. But say both come back to active roster we would have to send Lois Guillorme down leaving us with no viable backup shortstop (unless I'm missing someone who can play the position) and Dom Smith, and Smith we could send down as Frazier would then back up Alonso.

But even we go that route, again, I don't like taking at-bats away from McNeil because he'll be competing with three other players.

EDIT: I forgot Lowrie has played shortstop so there is our backup for that position
 
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Maybe Vargas was the wrong one in the rotation to skip. Going up against Scherzer you know going in you dont have much margin for error. At this rate I can see packaging up ond of the glut of young shortstops for a starter.
At what rate? This is Wheeler's second appearance. You gonna throw out the entire second half of last season?

Yes it is possible that the Mets may move a young shortstop for a starter. A trade like that - IF it happens - happens at the trade deadline. Not after Game 9.

Let's at least get through the start of the season (Game 40?) before reaching any conclusions. We haven't finished the start. Hell, we're still at the start of the start.
 
Has the Mets bullpen had a scoreless outing this year?
Yes. You can look it up, which I doubt you have any intention of doing, since your question was clearly rhetorical.

When you are asking your bullpen to pitch three to four innings every game, you MUST expect them to give up runs more often than not. Middle relievers give up runs. That's what they do. If they were better than that, they wouldn't be middle relievers.
 
Maybe Vargas was the wrong one in the rotation to skip. Going up against Scherzer you know going in you dont have much margin for error. At this rate I can see packaging up ond of the glut of young shortstops for a starter.
Just sign Keuchel to a 2 year deal. Don’t know if you can count on wheeler. Definitely can’t on vargas
 
Maybe Vargas was the wrong one in the rotation to skip. Going up against Scherzer you know going in you dont have much margin for error. At this rate I can see packaging up ond of the glut of young shortstops for a starter.
At what rate? This is Wheeler's second appearance. You gonna throw out the entire second half of last season?

Yes it is possible that the Mets may move a young shortstop for a starter. A trade like that - IF it happens - happens at the trade deadline. Not after Game 9.

Let's at least get through the start of the season (Game 40?) before reaching any conclusions. We haven't finished the start. Hell, we're still at the start of the start.
That's what I'm talking about. By midseason. And no matter how early it is these games count too in what figures to be a tight race for playoff spots.
 
I would sign Wheeler before the end of May,and my early feelings based on the last 2 years is Thor will never reach the levels his stuff should produce.I'm seeing him as either trade bait late in the season if the playoffs aren't in the picture, or in the off season for a couple high level players. Hope I'm wrong.Maybe they need to breakup deGrom and Thor, let Matz throw #2 To change the eye level for hitters in 3 or 4 game series. In fact for that reason I'd go,deGrom,Matz,Wheeler,if Vargus shows he's decent, then Thor. Call me nuts, but that's my thought process in a righty, lefty rotation. I just have a bad take on Syndergaard.
Did I forget to mention that I've been elevated to the Head of Mets Scouting and Player
Development and Evaluation.:baseball::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:[cheers]
 
Yes. You can look it up, which I doubt you have any intention of doing, since your question was clearly rhetorical.

When you are asking your bullpen to pitch three to four innings every game, you MUST expect them to give up runs more often than not. Middle relievers give up runs. That's what they do. If they were better than that, they wouldn't be middle relievers.

So you have faith in this bullpen outside of Diaz and maybe Familia? Lugo and Wilson should be ok. But inability to hold on to leads or giving up runs even with big leads is concerning.
 
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Mets pitching staff team ERA - 4.48

Minus deGrom - 5.37

Ouch
 
Just sign Keuchel to a 2 year deal. Don’t know if you can count on wheeler. Definitely can’t on vargas
If Keuchel (and more importantly, Boras) wanted a two year contract he'd have signed one long ago. Maybe he'll eventually have to settle for that, but it ain't happening anytime soon IMHO.
 
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Regarding Keuchel some notes from yesterday per Ken Rosenthal.

Keuchel, 31, is reportedly seeking a one-year deal that will pay him more than the one-year, $17.9 million qualifying offer from the Astros he turned down during the offseason or a long-term contract at a lower salary, according to Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports.

Rosenthal notes, though, that it's possible Keuchel -- who he says is throwing 95-pitch simulated games every five days to get ready -- doesn't get either of those requests.

"Neither option is necessarily available now that the season has started," Rosenthal said. "And the longer that Keuchel waits, the more he will sacrifice in a prorated deal and the longer it will take him to prepare."

When it comes to the Mets potentially signing Keuchel, it's important to note that the team is saving $10 million this season since Jacob deGrom's contract extension reduced his 2019 salary from $17 million to $7 million.
 
I don't know about the idea of Matz in the pen with his propensity for losing the strike zone.
There is nothing about Matz that says bullpen. He is either a starter or nothing. I liked most of his latest outing and think he may find himself.
I’ll say something...to me, it seems that GSel and Lugo seem to be tiring of this BP BS and both still feel they are starters. Seems to be affecting them this year.
 
There is nothing about Matz that says bullpen. He is either a starter or nothing. I liked most of his latest outing and think he may find himself.
I’ll say something...to me, it seems that GSel and Lugo seem to be tiring of this BP BS and both still feel they are starters. Seems to be affecting them this year.
Yes. Not to mention that Matz is one of those pitchers who tends to take a while to get in a groove. You certainly don't have that luxury coming out of the pen.
 
Gsellman has never really been that good besides 2016. He was average at best last year.
 
There is nothing about Matz that says bullpen. He is either a starter or nothing. I liked most of his latest outing and think he may find himself.
I’ll say something...to me, it seems that GSel and Lugo seem to be tiring of this BP BS and both still feel they are starters. Seems to be affecting them this year.
I dont blame them. Esp since I think both are better than Matz, definitely better than Vargas
 
I dont blame them. Esp since I think both are better than Matz, definitely better than Vargas
I’m curious this year with Matz now also going outside instead of trying to bust everyone inside. He has real good stuff, just control problems and a bit predictable.
I think Lugo could be a very good number 3 starter. GSel- maybe 5th starter but he isn’t nearly the pitcher Lugo is. He wasn’t horrible last year just nothing special.
 
There is nothing about Matz that says bullpen. He is either a starter or nothing. I liked most of his latest outing and think he may find himself.
I’ll say something...to me, it seems that GSel and Lugo seem to be tiring of this BP BS and both still feel they are starters. Seems to be affecting them this year.
Why not? He's a 5-6 inning starter with good stuff. Put him in the bullpen he might be lights out. What in Andrew Miller's first 6 years said bullpen?
 
CAN THEY GET RID OF TRAVIS DARNAUD ONCE AND FOR ALL??????? HE COMES BACK FROM THE IL TONDO WHAT HE DOES BEST: STRIKEOUT WITH RUNNERS ON BASE!!!!!!!

GD IT MAN!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Honestly don't need to hear BVW like he's the conquering hero already. This guy's ego might be off the charts.
 
Mets are killing me tonight.I had hopes of going 5-0 today after TOR,CLEV,and CINN with TEX later.
 
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