OT: Cespedes to opt-out of his Mets contract
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He'd be a fool not to considering this year's thin free agent market. Doesn't mean the Mets won't sign him though.
If he does not sign with the Mets I bet he goes to the Marlins if they can pay him.
1- He already has a house there
2- Large Cuban population and following
3- Will not pay any state tax on a potential monster contract
A .280 BA with 31 HRs is worth a 5 year deal for $ 28M per year ?
And the guy has been called uncoachable and lazy by multiple teams. Pass.
And the guy has been called uncoachable and lazy by multiple teams. Pass.
Yankees don't need an aging, lazy player with spurts of greatness. Been there done that way too much in the past.
You need to look at the Mets record with him in the lineup and with him out of the lineup. I don't have the exact numbers off the top of my head, but it's not even close. They have a losing record with him out of the lineup. Mets need him.
It's interesting how the Mets got back into the race when he and Cabrera got healthy. I wouldn't throw him away that fast. There's not a lot out there this year and you want to try and contend while you still have control over the young arms. I think both the Mets and Cespedes need each other. Mets will likely need to overpay, but most of these contracts are silly anyway.
I agree totally. It's time for the Mets to put on their big boy pants and go out and sign him.
The Mets have a losing record with Cespedes out of the lineup because they live and die by the long ball.
Which was pretty much my point.
For the money they're paying Cespedes they could easily acquire the talent they need to raise their team batting average (one of the lowest in baseball), their team OBP (one of the lowest in baseball) and their team RISP (last time I checked, THE lowest in baseball).
You don't pay a guy $28 million just because sometimes when he hits a homerun, you win.
I believe most that say "pass" are not Mets fans. They're not familiar with the Mets and their needs. Mets are overloaded with left-handed hitters. A big right handed bat is needed. Cespedes is that guy.
Hey, keep him too. As a Cubs fan, I have seen Bruce play a lot and kill us a lot, so I'm not as down on him as Mets fans were. He started to play better towards the end. I forgot which announcer said it, it may have been Jim Deshaies on the Cubs broadcast, but he pointed out how difficult it is for a player to adjust after he is traded from an organization that drafted him and developed him. He said the adjustment period can be a little longer than for a guy who has already bounced around a few times.
Yes, but they are not built at present for small ball. You would need to re-tool the roster somewhat and I don't think that meshes with their window relative to having the pitchers with manageable contracts.
Pitchers are a commodity in today's game.
You hit on my point - the Mets' current formula isn't going to make them successful. Their front office needs to reconsider how they play the game.
I was disappointed that baseball season ended, for me, after one wildcard game. I really hope that they take a long look at how the organization is put together and come up with a long-term solution.
Lol posts like this make me laugh . I hate the mets but basically when the guy is the lineup they win . When he's not , they lose .
This is NYC . Mets need to pay the man .
Yeah. The world needs the opinion of a guy who refers to himself in the third person.
Sure does . Especially when third person guy is pretty much right . Or at least will base an argument with some facts .
"When he's in, they win. When he's not, they lose".
That was your "facts".
You're a moron. Welcome to my Ignore list.
"Pitchers are a commodity in today's game" ranks as the one of the Dumbest statements ever typed into this forum. Sorry, let me make myself clear. It ranks as the all time dumbest baseball statement ever made in the history of baseball IMO. Half of the active roster are pitchers but pitching is a commodity ?
Obviously this poster thinks that good hitting beats good pitching. Wait, is that the way it it goes as far as we know ? LOL
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The fact that half the players on a MLB roster are pitchers isn't relevant to my point.
Starting pitchers, to this day, have some degree of tenure in that it's not uncommon to see a good starting ace (Kershaw, Verlander, for example) put in a number of years with the same club.
But starting pitchers are also being heavily pitch-limited. The average number of innings pitched by relievers has gone from just under two to over three in the last 40 years. More important, the average number of relief pitchers throwing those pitches in relief has more than doubled - from just under 1.5 to over 3 - in the same period of time. Relievers are becoming a more prominent part of the game and relief pitchers, on the whole, are much more itinerant than either starting pitchers or fielders.
Mets should resign him. He changes the dynamic of their entire lineup. I understand the trepidation, but the Mets have a chance to dominate the town while the Yankees rebuild.
Given what they were able to do last season and this season with him in the lineup, I think it would be a bad move to let him go. If they were healthy and lost in the play-in game this season, I could understand considering moving on, but at full strength and him, the Mets are a very good team.
Given what they were able to do last season and this season with him in the lineup, I think it would be a bad move to let him go. If they were healthy and lost in the play-in game this season, I could understand considering moving on, but at full strength and him, the Mets are a very good team.
Who should they add to replace his presence in the lineup?
IMO they need to resign him. Does he has his flaws? Yes. But his mere presence in the lineup is HUGE. Give him the $$.
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If for unfathomable reasons you are seeking my opinion on Cespedes: I have stated on this board that I do not expect Cespedes to be a Met next year. Mets were unwilling to go long with him last year and I doubt they will now - but somebody will. Unlike last year, Cespedes is now the prize of the free agent class.
I don't recall ever opining as to whether Cespedes SHOULD be re-signed long term, because I haven't really formed an opinion. Obviously it's not my money, so at one level I really don't care what they spend. But on the other hand, in the land of Wilponia every signing has an opportunity cost. Any money given to Cespedes is money that someone else is not going to get - not now, not four years from now.
Lmao! They're not even remotely similar. Except they both have dark skin and from Cuba. Puig wishes he was as talented as Cespedes. Good call though :/
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Have you seen this year's free agent class?
They'll need to pay him, and he's worth it.
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