Peterson is taking the bullets and protecting Roseman. I think 2021 is the end for both if they fail to make a run in the playoffs.
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Pederson isn't losing his job over this. Do people actually think he didn't do this in direct coordination with Roseman and Lurie? The ONLY way he loses his job is if Lurie and Roseman decided before the game that Pederson wouldn't be back in 2021 but told Pederson he'd be back and that it's best to put in the scrubs late in the game and 'if we don't win, that's ok too'. That's an extremely unlikely scenario -- Pederson is back for 2021.
Players are going to be upset over a million different things. Some of the same players upset Sunday night were the same players who wasn't happy with Wentz being benched. In the past, players got upset that certain players got traded/released/not re-signed. Some players aren't going to be happy with Ertz leaving this season. The organization has had WAY too much attachment to the players on this roster the last few years, which is what put them in the position they're in now. Lurie/Roseman/Pederson are the role of the parents -- they need to do what's best overall, not just what the 'kids' want.
Everyone also talks about how much turnover there is in the NFL year to year (and there will be a ton of turnover in that locker room this offseason anyway). In the heat of the moment, of course they want to win but cooler heads will prevail. And if not...well they weren't going to be with the team in the future anyway.
WhiteBus and Terry have it right above, and are paying attention to the full context of what the local Philly media are saying.
For context, the story about players being upset is here, https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/dou...en-hurts-nate-sudfeld-joe-judge-20210104.html . It is being picked up and parroted in the national media without any other information. All of the Eagles beat writers feel that the direction came from above and Pederson's answer/non-answer about the tanking to the media is him taking the hit for the team.
For context, the story about players being upset is here, https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/dou...en-hurts-nate-sudfeld-joe-judge-20210104.html . It is being picked up and parroted in the national media without any other information. All of the Eagles beat writers feel that the direction came from above and Pederson's answer/non-answer about the tanking to the media is him taking the hit for the team.
He would never protect Roseman. It's common knowledge that Roseman has the worst draft record in the NFL and DP can easily use that as an excuse for his failure. If you look at the drafts, its been a miracle what DP has been able to do. If he got fired, he would get a new job pretty quick. Roseman signed that terrible Wentz contract when there was no need to do it.
Philly media is a bunch of drama queens who rarely know what's really going on. It's like having 50 Politis.
It might have come from above, but it would have to come from Lurie. No way Pederson is listening to Roseman on that alone.
Dude you can ignore the facts. Or kill Roseman all you want ,as he does suck, but the fact is that was an organization plan. Plain and simple. Common knowledge down here in Philly. There aren't a few media saying this. They all are!
They are going through a rebuild. They may keep Wentz after watching Hurts last 2 games but other big names are gone.
I'm not ignoring anything. Just disagreeing with your original comment that Pederson is protecting Roseman.
Agree its a huge rebuild and losing the game was deliberate.
If that's the case it cheapens the idea of having a division. Interesting question though.
Where was Roseman Sunday night? Only Pederson was standing in front of the media and answering questions about pulling Hurts. Not once did he bring up Roseman or the Eagles. I think that defines protecting Roseman. Than later yesterday Roseman, for the first time since the draft, had to face the media.
I blame Charlie Finley in 1973.
He started all this front office tells the manager/coach what to do when he made Mike Andrews swear he was injured when he wasn’t.
Before then if you wanted to do that you at least had to own and coach your team simultaneously like George Halas or Al Davis.😀
He started all this front office tells the manager/coach what to do when he made Mike Andrews swear he was injured when he wasn’t.
Before then if you wanted to do that you at least had to own and coach your team simultaneously like George Halas or Al Davis.😀
having a terrible division already cheapens it, having division champs get a home game cheapens the playoffs in general since it often prevents the second or third best team in the conference from having a home playoff game that they earned throughout the season. divisions are purely kept around for scheduling purposes and to retain important rivalries anyway, hence why the Cowboys are still in the East.
DP is just being professional. It also makes him look good to the fan base and potential future employers to take the heat. It also makes Howie look small. Doug is playing 3D chess.
Agree. But being professional in front of the media, taking it all on him is protecting Roseman. That is exactly what I'm saying. We both agree Roseman is lost. Pederson isn't all that good without Frank Reich.
Phillies laid down, and moved up in the draft we won and went down in the draft, so tell me who is the smarter.
You try and win games in the NFL. Period. And didn’t want to lose to (a s#itty) Dallas team an 8th straight time. With NYG history of first round picks over the past 10 years (particularly higher picks) I actually prefer to be lower to be honest. Until Giants get their personnel department straightened out draft order doesn’t concern me, the actual picks do.
Giants had nothing to play for vs Cowboys in Week 17 in 2004 but happy we won as it set the stage for the 2005 season. Giants were locked into the 5-seed in Week 17 of 2007 season but still happy we played that game balls out to win. Set the stage for the improbable super bowl run.
I always thought Pedersen was kind of an unlikable putz anyway. This doesn’t move the needle for me either way.
I do find it rich that an former assistant of Bill Belichick is complaining about someone disrespecting the integrity of the game
Think Ertz has one more good year in him? ,I know a team that could use him if he does.
The craziest thing about the whole game is that the Eagles D, missing 7 or so starters, shut down an NFL offense after giving up over 500 yards in the last 2 games. That's how bad the Skins O is.
Considering the Eagles GM drafts poorly in early rounds, I'd say the Eagles are about to squander even more draft capital than they were originally allocated. Congratulations.
I mean is it really smarter when the last pro bowler Howie drafted in the 1st was Carson Wentz and he could've given his young rookie qb a huge win on primetime to knock out a division rival and actually have something to build on moving forward? Nah 3 picks in the draft when Howie can't draft anyway was more important... lol
that's what Alex Smith does for you. Great story that he came back, but outside of one or two drives a game, he usually is a very ineffective QB due to not being able to get past his second read ever, hence why he is a career 200 ypg and 1 TD per game passer.
The GM and the owner were fully on board with tanking. People need to stop with the tanking talk, that's not what cost him his job. The organization wouldn't give the HC any control in his coaching hires or personnel and the bandaid needed to be ripped off for both sides. Can't blame him for being tired of Roseman getting all of the control with disastrous results.
Huge mistake by the Eagles. Agree DP asked for control and basically said him or Roseman. He didn't talk his way out of anything, this was deliberate. DP will get hired again. Roseman would never get hired if Eagles let him go. If Roseman is in the same role it's going to be tough to get a good coach.
Dallas was the big winner. Could have been 19 with a win vs NYG and Philly. Ended up with the 10th pick.
Him getting fired has nothing to do with tanking. More about him and Wentz hating each other.
Just saw this on TV. Very surprised. Wonder if the Jets will be interested, obviously GM Joe Douglas knows him well.
I think that Pederson is an excellent football mind. As a Jets' fan, though, still remember the last time they hired a recently fired Eagles HC ... his name was Rich Kotite.
I think that Pederson is an excellent football mind. As a Jets' fan, though, still remember the last time they hired a recently fired Eagles HC ... his name was Rich Kotite.
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