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OT: Jersey Shore

I lived in Lavallette. It's 99% street parking and it's free. First come first served. There is no local resident access in Lavallette. Anyone can get a badge and anyone can access the beach. The badge gets you on the beach not where you live.

In theory, the beaches are open to the public there. As a practical matter, however, it discourages most of the public from accessing local beaches. We rode our bicycles as far north as Point Pleasant and as far south as Seaside Heights. I did not see any large public parking lots except in Point Pleasant and Seaside Heights. Sporadic street parking several blocks from the beach discourages the public from accessing many of the beaches in Lavallette.
 
wow, great job on the replenishment. It looks completely different now. Last year, the beach was the smallest i’ve seen it in years. This will help prices for home owners.

How does it help the value of the houses of the folks who paid for it?
 
In theory, the beaches are open to the public there. As a practical matter, however, it discourages most of the public from accessing local beaches. We rode our bicycles as far north as Point Pleasant and as far south as Seaside Heights. I did not see any large public parking lots except in Point Pleasant and Seaside Heights. Sporadic street parking several blocks from the beach discourages the public from accessing many of the beaches in Lavallette.
What do you suggest the town of Lavellette do to make parking lots? Take someone's property by eminent domain? There is limited real estate on that strip of land.
 
In theory, the beaches are open to the public there. As a practical matter, however, it discourages most of the public from accessing local beaches. We rode our bicycles as far north as Point Pleasant and as far south as Seaside Heights. I did not see any large public parking lots except in Point Pleasant and Seaside Heights. Sporadic street parking several blocks from the beach discourages the public from accessing many of the beaches in Lavallette.
You think paid parking is more inviting to the public than free parking?
 
Last year, the beach was the smallest i’ve seen it since 2006. It made me reconsider buying a beach house.
I was talking about the houses of the rest of the citizens in NJ who were forced to kick in tax dollars.
 
I was talking about the houses of the rest of the citizens in NJ who were forced to kick in tax dollars.
That’s all you got? My list would be long for stuff that my tax dollars cover for things that don’t benefit me.
 
In theory, the beaches are open to the public there. As a practical matter, however, it discourages most of the public from accessing local beaches. We rode our bicycles as far north as Point Pleasant and as far south as Seaside Heights. I did not see any large public parking lots except in Point Pleasant and Seaside Heights. Sporadic street parking several blocks from the beach discourages the public from accessing many of the beaches in Lavallette.
This whole statement is bizzar to put it mildly. If you want to park close to the beach get up early and get a beach block spot like everyone else. Get there late walk farther. Very simple concept. I grew up down there. Like everyone that lived there or not I had to walk up to the beach. Sporadic in Lavallette? Every street is the same. Except for driveways the entire streets are open for parking for anyone. We lived ocean block but closer to 35. The spots in front of our house were taken by 9am almost every weekend morning.
The beaches are packed and not by residents so trust me no one is discouraged.
BTW the large parking lots in Point and SSH are privately owned and charge a boatload to park there.
Accessing the beaches isn't your problem. Having to walk a block to get to the beach is your problem.
 
It's the topic here. That's why I mentioned it.
I was really talking about beach house homeowners. But let me present a case to justify it. Tourism is a big revenue driver for NJ. Having nice looking beaches will help continue that and all the jobs related to the beaches. That covers state income tax. I don’t need to cover federal because we are net payers.
 
I was really talking about beach house homeowners. But let me present a case to justify it. Tourism is a big revenue driver for NJ. Having nice looking beaches will help continue that and all the jobs related to the beaches. That covers state income tax. I don’t need to cover federal because we are net payers.

You made that pretty clear by reviewing YOUR buying decision. It helps YOUR home value. The rest of us get nothing.
 
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I haven't been there in years! Always liked it though. Why do I vaguely remember warning signs about foxes? This was 20 years ago lol

I’m in Barnegat Light and we see foxes all the time. There are even a good number of the two-legged variety
 
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You made that pretty clear by reviewing YOUR buying decision. It helps YOUR home value. The rest of us get nothing.
You and I pay taxes for many things that don’t directly benefit us. Your real estate taxes subsidize schools but if you don’t have kids or your kids are grown you don’t directly benefit. Your taxes subsidize mass transit but if you don’t use it you don’t directly benefit. Your taxes go to food stamps and other programs to help the less fortunate but you don’t directly benefit. On and on. I’m not necessarily advocating any of these, but rather, recognizing that there is not a direct correlation between our tax dollars and our direct benefits.
 
You made that pretty clear by reviewing YOUR buying decision. It helps YOUR home value. The rest of us get nothing.
I know how you feel. It’s like this BS tax cut that I get nothing out of. Btw, I don’t own a house at the shore. I’m still trying to find one at the right price. Not sure where you got that it helps my home value.
 
not in theory-ALL beaches are open to the public in NJ--ever been to the Hamptons? there's even worse parking-- same guy who complains about RU stealing $ from NJ tax payers (bs by the way) -- a SHU lover with same diatribe over and over
 
not in theory-ALL beaches are open to the public in NJ--ever been to the Hamptons? there's even worse parking-- same guy who complains about RU stealing $ from NJ tax payers (bs by the way) -- a SHU lover with same diatribe over and over

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My wife and I just got back from a few days in Cape May. We were lucky -- some truly excellent beach weather and so I spent a fair amount of time bobbing up and down with the waves. And as I hope everyone knows, there's a lot to do in Cape May beside go to the beach. There is a *lot* of sand on the beaches and they are very wide.

I have been to Island Beach State Park's beaches, and enjoyed them very much. And there is parking. It's not the easiest drive from Cherry Hill, though. Cherry Hill is about 90 minutes from Cape May at non-rush times and it's a simple drive; get to the AC expressway, get to the Garden State and take it south. Only $4.50 in tolls going to Cape May and $3 coming back -- I thought it would e a lot worse.
 
My wife and I just got back from a few days in Cape May. We were lucky -- some truly excellent beach weather and so I spent a fair amount of time bobbing up and down with the waves. And as I hope everyone knows, there's a lot to do in Cape May beside go to the beach. There is a *lot* of sand on the beaches and they are very wide.

I have been to Island Beach State Park's beaches, and enjoyed them very much. And there is parking. It's not the easiest drive from Cherry Hill, though. Cherry Hill is about 90 minutes from Cape May at non-rush times and it's a simple drive; get to the AC expressway, get to the Garden State and take it south. Only $4.50 in tolls going to Cape May and $3 coming back -- I thought it would e a lot worse.
I recently spent 6 days at AC, drove to Cape May got on the ferry, then visited my brother in law near Dover. Came back
on the ferry went to AC again. All in all a great vacation and loved the very relaxing ferry trip ( 1 1/2) hrs.
Also those that are saying AC sucks probably don't realize how much better it gets each new year.
 
I recently spent 6 days at AC, drove to Cape May got on the ferry, then visited my brother in law near Dover. Came back
on the ferry went to AC again. All in all a great vacation and loved the very relaxing ferry trip ( 1 1/2) hrs.
Also those that are saying AC sucks probably don't realize how much better it gets each new year.

Honest question: if someone is not a gambler, then is there anything much to do in AC? The only casino I've been to is the Borgata, where years ago I met a girl on an internet date. It seemed nice, but I'm not into gambling.
 
Honest question: if someone is not a gambler, then is there anything much to do in AC? The only casino I've been to is the Borgata, where years ago I met a girl on an internet date. It seemed nice, but I'm not into gambling.
Couple of questions:
1. Seems internet dating is a form a gambling, no?
2. Does the "it" refer to the internet date? :Wink:

Just kidding. Perceived duality in those statements.
 
A beach is a “river of sand” and it’s mechanics mostly incompatible with human activities...
 
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Couple of questions:
1. Seems internet dating is a form a gambling, no?
2. Does the "it" refer to the internet date? :Wink:

Just kidding. Perceived duality in those statements.

Thanks! Yes, I would agree that internet dating is a form of gambling, with a low win rate, but a big payoff. (I never got the payoff.) The date was OK -- she really wanted to gamble and said that we could probably get comps. I wasn't excited.
 
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Thanks! Yes, I would agree that internet dating is a form of gambling, with a low win rate, but a big payoff. (I never got the payoff.) The date was OK -- she really wanted to gamble and said that we could probably get comps. I wasn't excited.
I do agree with you on AC, however. If you are not a gambler, not much there. Been there once or twice in the last 5 years for concerts. Drove in, watched concert, left immediately after.
 
I do agree with you on AC, however. If you are not a gambler, not much there. Been there once or twice in the last 5 years for concerts. Drove in, watched concert, left immediately after.

I've been told, for instance, that the beach is not that good compared with other places close by.
 
AC also has shows, fine dining, clubs and the outlets. I like the beach there, but it is comparable to other South Jersey beaches. I do AC once or twice a year, but Manasquan during the summer.
 
I'm a gambler and to be frank other than the Borgata and maybe Hard Rock ,AC is way down--even though the Trop gets pretty big crowds try parking in their self parking garage--it's covered in soot and hasn't been panted since they opened--talk about a dark, depressing place--perfect place for a horror movie
 
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I'm a gambler and to be frank other than the Borgata and maybe Hard Rock ,AC is way down--even though the Trop gets pretty big crowds try parking in their self parking garage--it's covered in soot and hasn't been panted since they opened--talk about a dark, depressing place--perfect place for a horror movie
It looks like ocean resort is doing well under it's new owner's also. It looks to me AC is on it's way up in many ways. I just spent
10 days there and it was really crowded.
 
This whole statement is bizzar to put it mildly. If you want to park close to the beach get up early and get a beach block spot like everyone else. Get there late walk farther. Very simple concept. I grew up down there. Like everyone that lived there or not I had to walk up to the beach. Sporadic in Lavallette? Every street is the same. Except for driveways the entire streets are open for parking for anyone. We lived ocean block but closer to 35. The spots in front of our house were taken by 9am almost every weekend morning.
The beaches are packed and not by residents so trust me no one is discouraged.
BTW the large parking lots in Point and SSH are privately owned and charge a boatload to park there.
Accessing the beaches isn't your problem. Having to walk a block to get to the beach is your problem.
You think paid parking is more inviting to the public than free parking?

Actually, parking is only one of the inconveniences that discourage the general public from accessing the Lavalette Beaches. The bigger problems are the lack of public rest rooms and places to eat on or near the beach. That's why most people pay for parking at Seaside and Point Pleasant.
 
Actually, parking is only one of the inconveniences that discourage the general public from accessing the Lavalette Beaches. The bigger problems are the lack of public rest rooms and places to eat on or near the beach. That's why most people pay for parking at Seaside and Point Pleasant.
And yet Lavallette beaches are packed every weekend. Since we bought our house in the late 60s. You are so off base about people being discouraged.
People pay a fortune to park in PT. Beach and Seaside because of the boardwalk. They aren't there just for the beach. A lot of people go to Lavallette to get away from that clown show.
 
I'm a gambler and to be frank other than the Borgata and maybe Hard Rock ,AC is way down--even though the Trop gets pretty big crowds try parking in their self parking garage--it's covered in soot and hasn't been panted since they opened--talk about a dark, depressing place--perfect place for a horror movie

I don’t understand the Trop parking garage at all. ITS DISGUSTING! As you said covered in black soot. Every time I go there I want to take a power washer to it

AC still has a long way to go to clean up it’s act but there are some great restaurants and Hard Rock is pretty nice along with Oceans. I love the upper decks at Oceans. They overlook the beach and boardwalk with great views and the fire pits are a cool touch

As to the tax dollars and beach replenishment it’s mostly federal dollars and the amount of tax revenue the jersey shore brings in runs the state economy between beach tags, restaurants, fishing, casinos, etc
 
I don’t understand the Trop parking garage at all. ITS DISGUSTING! As you said covered in black soot. Every time I go there I want to take a power washer to it

AC still has a long way to go to clean up it’s act but there are some great restaurants and Hard Rock is pretty nice along with Oceans. I love the upper decks at Oceans. They overlook the beach and boardwalk with great views and the fire pits are a cool touch

As to the tax dollars and beach replenishment it’s mostly federal dollars and the amount of tax revenue the jersey shore brings in runs the state economy between beach tags, restaurants, fishing, casinos, etc

My friends suggested the Tropicana to my wife and I last year instead of a long weekend in Cape May. We were discouraged when we parked in the Trop's parking garage, which is is dirty and decrepit. However, we were presently surprised and had a wonderful time. The inside of the Trop has the feel of an upscale mall with very nice restaurants. We enjoyed our dinners at Carmine's and Gallagher Steak House in the Resorts Casino.
 
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We're going to Cape May again in September. My wife tells me it's wonderful to visit then. Mind you, our trip last week for a long weekend was pretty wonderful, too.

A long time ago my ex wife and I would do a Cape May weekend every year in the early fall. Stayed at the Queen Victoria B&B. Great time. Stopped going once the kids came along.
 
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A long time ago my ex wife and I would do a Cape May weekend every year in the early fall. Stayed at the Queen Victoria B&B. Great time. Stopped going once the kids came along.

That's exactly the place we will stay at. I'm glad you liked it. We think we'll have a lot of fun even if the beaches are too cold.
 
That's exactly the place we will stay at. I'm glad you liked it. We think we'll have a lot of fun even if the beaches are too cold.

A guy named Dane I believe and his wife owned it. Don't know if they still do. I remember he was into making home brewed beer and used to go around judging beer contests.

Afternoon tea and sweets was always a good touch. It was like going back in time.

Ugly Mug for the Clam Chowder. Don't know about these days but back then The Mad Batter and Washington Inn were two top dinner places.
 
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