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OT: Legalization of Marijuana in NJ

You can forget about it if Hillary wins because that would mean that we would elect a Republican Governor,as we have elected a Governor of the opposing party of the recently elected President 7 straight times.The last time we didn't was 1985 when Kean was re-elected after Reagan's second win.

Should that happen,the DOJ will not allow a state with a Republican Governor to violate Federal law.All states that have legalized weed had either Democratic or independent Governors.
 
I'm all for legalization, but I'd take a closer look at the type of edibles being sold. Don't market weed like it's candy. Gummy bears, lollipops, energy drinks, etc., are especially enticing to young people. I would wager most "overdoses" come from edibles, rather than smoking.
 
ArminRU said:
Overdoses of THC?

Wait, what?
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The newest trend for pot heads is dabbing. It involves using butane to concentrate the THC into a wax which is lit & inhaled. This concentrate can have 80-90% THC versus the 5-15% THC in bud. I assume this is where the ODs are coming from. Personally, watching videos of people dabbing, it looks about as fun as the ghost pepper challenge, but whatever. It's their lungs.
 
So I've lived in Washington for almost a year now and I have to say it's a little strange seeing pot shops around.....but haven't really noticed any issues at all for the most part. I did read an article recently that potency has been going up as growing increases and there are probably hybrid plant varieties being created, etc. I think the only other somewhat major issue is the fact that because of federal drug law and banking laws these are essentially cash businesses.
 
1984 said:
Actually it is the weed that makes you addicted to the Ring Dings...:pimp:
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No....I got addicted to Ring Dings long before I smoked my first ganja.
And I just burned one and have no interest in a damn Ring Ding.

And BTW, I thought it was on the ballot in five states next month....California, Arizona, Maine, New Hampshire, and Massachusetts. And already legal in Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Alaska, and D.C.
Also in my second home....Jamaica.
 
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zappaa said:
Don't all of you know people who smoke weed when they wake up and continue to get high all day? They never run out because if they do the number one quest in their life is to acquire more.
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No...I know no one like that.
Cocaine...yes.....Alcohol....yes....Pot...no.
And I know a lot of people who smoke pot.
Besides, why is it Big Brother's job to tell me what I can smoke ? If they really cared they'd be more worried about those damn Ring Dings.
 
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RU4Real said:
It's not the weak ass stuff from the 60s that's the problem. It's you and your weak-ass friends.

I've had plenty of the best this generation has to offer. It's not addictive. You and your friends are just lazy.
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first of all i'm not lazy... I don't smoke and am going to be attending a top 25 law school next year so stfu, second of all you say it's not addicting, not everyone is addicted to cigarettes, or alcohol, or coffee it doesn't mean it's not addictive you nimrod
 
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mildone said:
It can be psychologically addictive. But so can just about anything. Being a fair bit older than you, and having known an awful lot more people than 400, in HS, college, work, etc., I can tell you that very few ever displayed any kind of addiction to pot. The number I'm aware of is almost certainly in line with the number of people who have addictive personality issues anyway.
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I would agree with you on that, but I think this weed is a lot stronger man, a lot of people who smoke that I know, many of whom are very smart some of them 23 and making 6 figures, can't function without it, like they get depressed and can't sleep they have withdrawal symptoms, like I said I'm for legalization and have smoked at least 200 times myself, if not 300-400 but for people who say it's not addictive at all, talk to Tyrann Mathieu and Josh Gordon and see what they say
 
RU4Real said:
It's not the weak ass stuff from the 60s that's the problem. It's you and your weak-ass friends.

I've had plenty of the best this generation has to offer. It's not addictive. You and your friends are just lazy.
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from the liberal huffington post you dingbat. "9 percent of marijuana users become addicted, but he doesn’t add that nearly twice as many adolescents (17 percent) become addicted, as do 25 percent to 50 percent of daily users." so wow almost 1/5 of adolescents who use it become addictive, and lets just say one-third of it's daily users do, I would say that's kind of addicting.
 
Kbee3 said:
No...I know no one like that.
Cocaine...yes.....Alcohol....yes....Pot...no.
And I know a lot of people who smoke pot.
Besides, why is it Big Brother's job to tell me what I can smoke ? If they really cared they'd be more worried about those damn Ring Dings.
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I know a lot, including several of my very good friends
I never used the word addicted or said it shouldn't be legalized either.
 
Haven't read the whole thread. Never tried and no desire to. I won't address addiction.

The two people I knew who had tried (I think my tailgate buddies are #3-4 but coincidentally they R so big weight-wise little affects them-said it made him/them? sleepy) said:

1) Don't try because he had continuing flashbacks/hallucinations.
2) The 1st time tried had a heart attack/heart palpitations, had to go to the ER and almost died.

This is in 1981 with lesser strains.
 
Now I know why everyone was stupidly criticzing me talking to "MY" high schools cheerleaders about a kicking prospect everyone was clamoring for after Saturdays game..... I think your jealous because you all used pot or another drug (or with your other prescribed drugs that cause other problems).

I'm 53 and just listed 13 serious medical problems on a form an hour ago. Unlke you guys if I want to hook up with a LEGAL9 ages 18-65) cheerleader or dance team member, yada I CAN and AM ABLE. I can get it up higher than that Bridgewater kicker I was talking about with the friendly and mature (unlike some here) cheerleaders putting in a word for good ole' RU. I'm h*rder than the steel in that ole bell Colonel Henry donated to RU (and don't have to pay that same thousand he donated).

You want a high buy a pair of Running shoes and run/jog/walk. I just jogged/walked 6.1 miles (limited by time) 3 days in a row despite LOTS of pain, health issues and digestive issues/ulcers? Unlike pot that makes all of ya tired and lazy running makes me HORNY (as that old club/song goes Soo hoony")-even for your LEGAL 18 year old daughters (I'm assuming consent isn't 16 and most womens brains, if ever normal, are a minimum of 21).

My spermies are REAL and swim SPECTACULARLY. So look out you legal and illegal potheads and legal/illegal drug addicts-Ash Saturday is coming to a college or even big high school game near you!
 
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cRURah said:
It's working here in Denver. Dispensaries are popping up everywhere, even in top-end neighborhoods. i can walk 5-10 minutes in any direction and get the highest quality product in the world. One problem though is young of-legal-age adults buying and then selling to teenagers. There's high penalties for that but it seems to be happening anyway.
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Yea, because its not like they cant get it anywhere else. Its not like when we I was in HS it was hard to find, there is no problem for anyone of any age being able to purchase.

I don't understand why any state hasn't made it legal already. The arguments against make zero sense.
 
AshSaturday said:
Now I know why everyone was stupidly criticzing me talking to "MY" high schools cheerleaders about a kicking prospect everyone was clamoring for after Saturdays game..... I think your jealous because you all used pot or another drug (or with your other prescribed drugs that cause other problems).

I'm 53 and just listed 13 serious medical problems on a form an hour ago. Unlke you guys if I want to hook up with a LEGAL9 ages 18-65) cheerleader or dance team member, yada I CAN and AM ABLE. I can get it up higher than that Bridgewater kicker I was talking about with the friendly and mature (unlike some here) cheerleaders putting in a word for good ole' RU. I'm h*rder than the steel in that ole bell Colonel Henry donated to RU (and don't have to pay that same thousand he donated).

You want a high buy a pair of Running shoes and run/jog/walk. I just jogged/walked 6.1 miles (limited by time) 3 days in a row despite LOTS of pain, health issues and digestive issues/ulcers? Unlike pot that makes all of ya tired and lazy running makes me HORNY (as that old club/song goes Soo hoony")-even for your LEGAL 18 year old daughters (I'm assuming consent isn't 16 and most womens brains, if ever normal, are a minimum of 21).

My spermies are REAL and swim SPECTACULARLY. So look out you legal and illegal potheads and legal/illegal drug addicts-Ash Saturday is coming to a college or even big high school game near you!
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You may not be smokin but there is something going on with you that I don't understand.
 
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formerlyknownasrutgers100 said:
I would agree with you on that, but I think this weed is a lot stronger man, a lot of people who smoke that I know, many of whom are very smart some of them 23 and making 6 figures, can't function without it, like they get depressed and can't sleep they have withdrawal symptoms, like I said I'm for legalization and have smoked at least 200 times myself, if not 300-400 but for people who say it's not addictive at all, talk to Tyrann Mathieu and Josh Gordon and see what they say
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Again, it's psychological addictive, not physically. Also, the THC strength has nothing to due with it being addictive or not.
 
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AshSaturday said:
Haven't read the whole thread. Never tried and no desire to. I won't address addiction.

The two people I knew who had tried (I think my tailgate buddies are #3-4 but coincidentally they R so big weight-wise little affects them-said it made him/them? sleepy) said:

1) Don't try because he had continuing flashbacks/hallucinations.
2) The 1st time tried had a heart attack/heart palpitations, had to go to the ER and almost died.

This is in 1981 with lesser strains.
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Your friend's heart condition has nothing to do with weed. Maybe they smoked a hot dose? I would recommend he/she sees a cardiologist because they probably have a preexisting condition. And I call bullshit on their "continuing" flashbacks/hallucinations being caused by marijuana. If they're having hallucinations while not under the influence of any drug, I would also recommend a neurologist.
 
AshSaturday said:
Question for those who smoke (pot-not the steam from me and my Rah Rah girls)-how do you drive after a joint or two? Is the road filled with drunks and druggies? Can you manage to discipline yourselves and don't drive stoned?
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If I smoked an entire joint by myself (let alone 2), the last think I would want to do is drive.
 
AshSaturday said:
Now I know why everyone was stupidly criticzing me talking to "MY" high schools cheerleaders about a kicking prospect everyone was clamoring for after Saturdays game..... I think your jealous because you all used pot or another drug (or with your other prescribed drugs that cause other problems).

I'm 53 and just listed 13 serious medical problems on a form an hour ago. Unlke you guys if I want to hook up with a LEGAL9 ages 18-65) cheerleader or dance team member, yada I CAN and AM ABLE. I can get it up higher than that Bridgewater kicker I was talking about with the friendly and mature (unlike some here) cheerleaders putting in a word for good ole' RU. I'm h*rder than the steel in that ole bell Colonel Henry donated to RU (and don't have to pay that same thousand he donated).

You want a high buy a pair of Running shoes and run/jog/walk. I just jogged/walked 6.1 miles (limited by time) 3 days in a row despite LOTS of pain, health issues and digestive issues/ulcers? Unlike pot that makes all of ya tired and lazy running makes me HORNY (as that old club/song goes Soo hoony")-even for your LEGAL 18 year old daughters (I'm assuming consent isn't 16 and most womens brains, if ever normal, are a minimum of 21).

My spermies are REAL and swim SPECTACULARLY. So look out you legal and illegal potheads and legal/illegal drug addicts-Ash Saturday is coming to a college or even big high school game near you!
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Did you realize you were posting on a football forum when you wrote all that? Or did you confuse this forum with a forum on bragOnYourDickToYoungGirls.com?
 
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AshSaturday said:
Now I know why everyone was stupidly criticzing me talking to "MY" high schools cheerleaders about a kicking prospect everyone was clamoring for after Saturdays game..... I think your jealous because you all used pot or another drug (or with your other prescribed drugs that cause other problems).

I'm 53 and just listed 13 serious medical problems on a form an hour ago. Unlke you guys if I want to hook up with a LEGAL9 ages 18-65) cheerleader or dance team member, yada I CAN and AM ABLE. I can get it up higher than that Bridgewater kicker I was talking about with the friendly and mature (unlike some here) cheerleaders putting in a word for good ole' RU. I'm h*rder than the steel in that ole bell Colonel Henry donated to RU (and don't have to pay that same thousand he donated).

You want a high buy a pair of Running shoes and run/jog/walk. I just jogged/walked 6.1 miles (limited by time) 3 days in a row despite LOTS of pain, health issues and digestive issues/ulcers? Unlike pot that makes all of ya tired and lazy running makes me HORNY (as that old club/song goes Soo hoony")-even for your LEGAL 18 year old daughters (I'm assuming consent isn't 16 and most womens brains, if ever normal, are a minimum of 21).

My spermies are REAL and swim SPECTACULARLY. So look out you legal and illegal potheads and legal/illegal drug addicts-Ash Saturday is coming to a college or even big high school game near you!
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May I suggest a sativa dominant strain with high CBD/low THC? Something along the lines of Cannatonic
 
being a former health professional, my gut instinct is against it..... I still believe that it is at least psychologically addictive.... in other words some will smoke every day if then can.... and that cannot be good.

even more basic, is that like cigarette smoking, it is bad for your lungs.... cannot see sucking any possible cancer causing
agents for decades.

I understand the possibility of it being good revenue for the state, and how some say it is safer than this or that....

I just cannot get on board.
 
wheezer said:
being a former health professional, my gut instinct is against it..... I still believe that it is at least psychologically addictive.... in other words some will smoke every day if then can.... and that cannot be good.

even more basic, is that like cigarette smoking, it is bad for your lungs.... cannot see sucking any possible cancer causing
agents for decades.

I understand the possibility of it being good revenue for the state, and how some say it is safer than this or that....

I just cannot get on board.
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If they legalize it, and employ some control over the strength, they can make safer edibles. That's the route I'd take. Hookers, brownies and blow.

Actually, given that I live a low carb lifestyle these days, I guess brownies are out of the question. Will have to find a different recipe. Hm...
 
wheezer said:
being a former health professional, my gut instinct is against it..... I still believe that it is at least psychologically addictive.... in other words some will smoke every day if then can.... and that cannot be good.

even more basic, is that like cigarette smoking, it is bad for your lungs.... cannot see sucking any possible cancer causing
agents for decades.

I understand the possibility of it being good revenue for the state, and how some say it is safer than this or that....

I just cannot get on board.
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1. Try explaining to a young kid why pot will get you locked up and your life possibly ruined and tobacco is legal.
2. It's not just the revenue generated. It's the resources wasted in pursuit of the sellers and the buyers.
3. If you cannot get on board...fine. It's just absurd to lock up others for what they smoke in the privacy of their own homes.
 
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Kbee3 said:
1. Try explaining to a young kid why pot will get you locked up and your life possibly ruined and tobacco is legal.
2. It's not just the revenue generated. It's the resources wasted in pursuit of the sellers and the buyers.
3. If you cannot get on board...fine. It's just absurd to lock up others for what they smoke in the privacy of their own homes.
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I don't support locking a user up
I understand the problems for police and the courts, resources used

I just speak from the gut, and the gut may be wrong....in a perfect world both cigarettes and alcohol would also not exist or be available.....but they are here,and are legal..... so be it.
 
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wheezer said:
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I don't support locking a user up
I understand the problems for police and the courts, resources used

I just speak from the gut, and the gut may be wrong....in a perfect world both cigarettes and alcohol would also not exist or be available.....but they are here,and are legal..... so be it.
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I remember back in the day listening on campus to an argument between my favorite college professor and a particularly annoying left-wing dogmatist. The dog at one point said: "You wanna know my gut response to that?" and the professor calmly replied: "No...pass it through your brain first".
 
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ArminRU said:
Again, it's psychological addictive, not physically. Also, the THC strength has nothing to due with it being addictive or not.
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In my opinion, you shouldn't look at addiction in this way. The mind and body are connected, for one. Second, cannabis withdrawal has real measurable physical side effects. That's beyond doubt. Lastly, I think people bring up the psychological addiction agrument to minimize the experience of addiction. "It won't kill you like alcohol or benzos" you'll hear people often say to trivialize. Sure that's true. However, as a recovering addict, withdrawal and the physical components of addiction are the easy part. It's the psychological components, like getting your head and life right, that's the hard part. That's the part that takes real work over a very long period of time.

That said, it's time to legalize cannabis and hopefully psychedelics someday. Such potential exists within psychedelics.
 
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In my opinion, you shouldn't look at addiction in this way. The mind and body are connected, for one. Second, cannabis withdrawal has real measurable physical side effects. That's beyond doubt. Lastly, I think people bring up the psychological addiction agrument to minimize the experience of addiction. "It won't kill you like alcohol or benzos" you'll hear people often say to trivialize. Sure that's true. However, as a recovering addict, withdrawal and the physical components of addiction are the easy part. It's the psychological components, like getting your head and life right, that's the hard part. That's the part that takes real work over a very long period of time.

That said, it's time to legalize cannabis and hopefully psychedelics someday. Such potential exists within psychedelics.
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What are the physical withdrawal side effects from cannabis?
 
okieKnight908 said:
In my opinion, you shouldn't look at addiction in this way. The mind and body are connected, for one. Second, cannabis withdrawal has real measurable physical side effects. That's beyond doubt. Lastly, I think people bring up the psychological addiction agrument to minimize the experience of addiction. "It won't kill you like alcohol or benzos" you'll hear people often say to trivialize. Sure that's true. However, as a recovering addict, withdrawal and the physical components of addiction are the easy part. It's the psychological components, like getting your head and life right, that's the hard part. That's the part that takes real work over a very long period of time.

That said, it's time to legalize cannabis and hopefully psychedelics someday. Such potential exists within psychedelics.
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What we really need to do is legalize hookers and blow. Yeah, baby, yeah!
 
mildone said:
I talked openly with my kids about the stuff. I dispelled the bullshit about pot, told them it won't kill them, that it's not even as dangerous, day to day, as drinking is, etc. But I also told them that if they were going to mess with that stuff, they should wait until college or later because what it CAN do, what I've observed it doing, is changing a kid's personality and robbing the kid of motivation.

I also pointed out that it's highly carcinogenic and I have a friend who smoked pot constantly who died from it.

The talk seemed to have worked as none of my kids, through HS at least, seemed the least bit interested in it. They could've been lying, but they openly told me about other stuff they knew I might not like so not sure why they'd lie about that.
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I agree with you, but just wanted to note that experts these days say there is *no* difference between physical and psychological addiction: both bring about physical changes in the brain. The common belief that it is easier to rid oneself of psychological addiction is not true.
 
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RUhasarrived said:
You can forget about it if Hillary wins....
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What do you mean by "if Hillary wins" ?
The betting houses in England are already paying off to those that bet on her winning the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Pay attention.
 
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