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After last season's surprise play and being ranked in the preseason, this team has one more game on its regular season schedule and is still looking for a win!
I know they had some injuries, but who would have thought they would fall this far?
Currently at 0-13-2 (0-6-2), they will be playing away at Bradley who has not had such a great season either but we are 0-5 for away games and they are not looking for their first win.
 
Been a brutally difficult year, injury-wise and other - with several of our best kids missing this season and one of the most ridiculous schedules I've ever seen a RU soccer team play - but that's been talked about ad nauseum and neither are valid excuses for stunning losses in a few of these OOC games late in the season. Not sure if DD's been getting the young kids as much time as possible, or what, but you can't be losing to Princeton, Columbia, and NJIT, the way that we did.

Feel bad for Danny, especially after making the B1G semi's and NCAA 2nd round last year, but you can't argue with the record.
 
rucoe89 said:
May be time for a change in the program. Program should never have gotten this bad.
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The guy who built the program is the guy who left it in shambles. Not DD's fault he just tried to pick up the pieces.
 
mdh2003 said:
He's been here, what, 6-7 years? More than enough time has passed to stop blaming the other guy.
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Please read the post to which I responded. Thanks. My point is it was already in bad shape when he took over from Reasso. Now...SHOULD Dan have turned this around and gotten us back to being ranked, annually, yes. Did many think we had started to turn the corner last year? Yes. Did everything possible - I mean EVERYTHING - that could possibly go wrong, go wrong? Yes. Does that entitle him to another year? Not sure BUT I have a feeling it may.
 
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I wanted Dan to succeed. Reasso seemed to be coasting since the late 90's. He lost contact with the NJ club teams and academies. The damage was done and it is a difficult lift to get back in and get the top level talent to commit. Being here six years, no matter how many injuries, 0 in the win column is unacceptable.
 
It would've been nice to pair a new HC with construction of the facility rather than just the promos of it coming but it doesn't look like we will make it to that point.
 
Wonder what his contract looks like. You might be able to accept this disaster of a season if recruiting was strong. That's the question. Is it?

Soccer is a sport the department isn't looking to tread water and compete in. They are expected to win.
 
He had a breakout year last season but went right back to sad old again. Yes, a lot went wrong but zero wins, even against bad teams? Oh no...

Hobbs needs to take a serious look here.
Same with Volleyball
 
Volleyball is tough. We are so behind there with little to no home grown talent.

Soccer is the complete opposite. Much bigger expectations, rightfully so. Perhaps in the future volleyball can get there because it is possible, but soccer is already positioned.

Recruiting. Do we have a top 15 class? In NJ, we should.
 
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Caliknight said:
Volleyball is tough. We are so behind there with little to no home grown talent.

Soccer is the complete opposite. Much bigger expectations, rightfully so. Perhaps in the future volleyball can get there because it is possible, but soccer is already positioned.

Recruiting. Do we have a top 15 class? In NJ, we should.
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This the main difference between soccer and volleyball right there. Volleyball we can hold off until the facilities are upgraded, plus it's a rare sport that NJ High Schools are weak in, aka weak recruiting base. Meanwhile soccer should be an NCAA team every year with the talent in NJ. I would go after the Bucknell coach personally.
 
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I understand that scholarships rules are different for non-football and non-basketball.

Maryland has the same problem that we do in Volleyball.

Can we just offer PA players? Penn State has a great team, but not all players at PA can play there? How are out of state players counts towards scholarships vs in state?
 
bigmatt718 said:
This the main difference between soccer and volleyball right there. Volleyball we can hold off until the facilities are upgraded, plus it's a rare sport that NJ High Schools are weak in, aka weak recruiting base. Meanwhile soccer should be an NCAA team every year with the talent in NJ. I would go after the Bucknell coach personally.
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Volleyball will be part of the same building as MBB, WBB, Wrestling and Gymnastics. So they will have state of the art facilities along with the rest of them.
 
My understanding is that the recruiting is poor. If that is true, no way can you justify keeping him. The results are bad and the trajectory is bad.
 
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This the main difference between soccer and volleyball right there. Volleyball we can hold off until the facilities are upgraded, plus it's a rare sport that NJ High Schools are weak in, aka weak recruiting base. Meanwhile soccer should be an NCAA team every year with the talent in NJ. I would go after the Bucknell coach personally.
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This guy has to be a friend of yours. You've mentioned him several times now. Am I wrong (not trying to be a jerk...)?
 
AreYouNUTS said:
This guy has to be a friend of yours. You've mentioned him several times now. Am I wrong (not trying to be a jerk...)?
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Yes, you actually are wrong. No ties whatsoever to the Bucknell coach. I also happened to notice several times where you plain as day want to keep a severely underachieving coach. Am I wrong?
 
I think Rutgers has to go in a new direction. Even if there's some talent on the roster and others in the recruiting hopper, after assuming some attrition with a coaching turnover, Rutgers needs to see if a different coach can do something with what talent remains and somehow move the program forward.
 
bigmatt718 said:
Yes, you actually are wrong. No ties whatsoever to the Bucknell coach. I also happened to notice several times where you plain as day want to keep a severely underachieving coach. Am I wrong?
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Fair enough just took a shot there!

Never said any such thing just laying out all the facts. Danny and I grew up together, never have hidden this fact, we've one another forever and played both hoops and soccer with, and against, one another. That being said, no question, if he loses his job it's 100% understandable. I just don't believe he loses it following this season regardless of what a disaster it's been AND on the heels of last year. I could be wrong, of course, but let's get back to the Bucknell coach moment:

Nash has been there 18 years. He's won 4 Patriot League titles. His tem went 7-7-5 last year and is currently 6-9-2.

THIS is the guy you're pushing? Not a chance. If DD gets fired we'll shoot much, much higher, or go with a young up-and-comer, IMHO.
 
AreYouNUTS said:
Fair enough just took a shot there!

Never said any such thing just laying out all the facts. Danny and I grew up together, never have hidden this fact, we've one another forever and played both hoops and soccer with, and against, one another. That being said, no question, if he loses his job it's 100% understandable. I just don't believe he loses it following this season regardless of what a disaster it's been AND on the heels of last year. I could be wrong, of course, but let's get back to the Bucknell coach moment:

Nash has been there 18 years. He's won 4 Patriot League titles. His tem went 7-7-5 last year and is currently 6-9-2.

THIS is the guy you're pushing? Not a chance. If DD gets fired we'll shoot much, much higher, or go with a young up-and-comer, IMHO.
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Very well then. And yes, knowing what Hobbs's track record has been thus far with coaching, I feel confident saying Donigan will be gone on Sunday after the season ends. And I honestly agree with you in that Hobbs will most likely pursue a hot shot assistant from a B1G or ACC school like UVA, UNC or Duke with ties to NJ.
 
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Proud NJ Sports Fan said:
They are really going to go through the season winless?

Fire the clown coach
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He's far from a "clown." Recruiting got better under him, than it was the last 5 years or so under Reasso, and his kids don't get in trouble off the field, either. 2 NCAA teams (2011 and 2015), including a trip to the 2nd round last year - which they made the B1G semis as well - and was named the BIG TEN COTY in 2015. This year has sucked, no question whatsoever, but maybe you should be more in-tune as to exactly what happened out there before calling him a "clown."
 
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AreYouNUTS said:
He's far from a "clown." Recruiting got better under him, than it was the last 5 years or so under Reasso, and his kids don't get in trouble off the field, either. 2 NCAA teams (2011 and 2015), including a trip to the 2nd round last year - which they made the B1G semis as well - and was named the BIG TEN COTY in 2015. This year has sucked, no question whatsoever, but maybe you should be more in-tune as to exactly what happened out there before calling him a "clown."
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What's the deal with the recruiting? I only know what's posted here, so maybe its not accurate. Is the recruiting decent? I feel like I get too much information from the guy who posts on the men's soccer threads who is completely negative about our program and only shows up when there is bad news to report or if he has a transfer rumor.
 
Reasso did just coach Division 2 Pfeiffer to an undefeated season and National Championship last year (he's also AD there - his alma mater), so I guess he's not done yet. He definitely declined in later years, but he did put us on the map in the 80s/90s and did just make the RU sports HOF.

I think it's time for a change - no excuse to be winless. Maybe this is the year RU goes winless in conference in football, hoops and men's soccer. Not a good year for the men...

http://www.ncaa.com/news/soccer-men...-first-undefeated-dii-mens-soccer-champion-16
 
RU848789 said:
Reasso did just coach Division 2 Pfeiffer to an undefeated season and National Championship last year (he's also AD there - his alma mater), so I guess he's not done yet. He definitely declined in later years, but he did put us on the map in the 80s/90s and did just make the RU sports HOF.

I think it's time for a change - no excuse to be winless. Maybe this is the year RU goes winless in conference in football, hoops and men's soccer. Not a good year for the men...

http://www.ncaa.com/news/soccer-men...-first-undefeated-dii-mens-soccer-champion-16
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Nobody is putting Reasso down for what he did here, and he should be on our HOF, no question. Shit, I had plenty of friends on a couple of GREAT teams back then, and went to just about every home game, but bottom line is he let the program go on, and off the field, his last 5+ years OTB. He, like Hayes, got very complacent.
 
RU848789 said:
Reasso did just coach Division 2 Pfeiffer to an undefeated season and National Championship last year (he's also AD there - his alma mater), so I guess he's not done yet. He definitely declined in later years, but he did put us on the map in the 80s/90s and did just make the RU sports HOF.

I think it's time for a change - no excuse to be winless. Maybe this is the year RU goes winless in conference in football, hoops and men's soccer. Not a good year for the men...

http://www.ncaa.com/news/soccer-men...-first-undefeated-dii-mens-soccer-champion-16
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Good thing wrestling and men's lax won't have those issues.
 
Scarlet_Scourge said:
I understand that scholarships rules are different for non-football and non-basketball.

Maryland has the same problem that we do in Volleyball.

Can we just offer PA players? Penn State has a great team, but not all players at PA can play there? How are out of state players counts towards scholarships vs in state?
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Considering Penn State has 2 on their entire roster I am sure there are plenty of left overs(They are sisters). PA is not a hotbed for Volleyball. To compete in volleyball you have to recruit nationally. Penn State has players from all over including international players. California and Illinois are the state most represented on Penn State Roster.
California 3
Illinois 3
Pennsylvania 2
Colorado 2
Ohio
Ontario
Haiti
Texas
Wisconsin
Serbia
New York
New Jersey
Puerto Rico
Virginia
Kentucky
Indiana
 
I have been following the program for awhile now. There is no reason that Rutgers should not be good to great program every year.
Great facilities for soccer, fertile recruiting in state, cheaper in state tuition to attract kids after you fill up your 9.5 scholarships.
Donigan did pretty well in his first few years at Rutgers with recruiting. Correa, Bruccoleri, Tainter, Corboz, Ross Tetro, Sa, Hamilton and Drezcik were all very good players that came in Donigans first three years. In my opinion he managed them poorly and should have done much better with the talent in the program.
You should never lose one of your best players to transfer but Corboz obviously lost confidence with the direction of the program. The team has often looked disorganized on the pitch and fails to utilize its players for their collective strengths. The top local players are no longer looking at the program. I have coached on the academy level and have many connections still to support that. It will be interesting to see how much your administration really cares about soccer.
 
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Considering Penn State has 2 on their entire roster I am sure there are plenty of left overs(They are sisters). PA is not a hotbed for Volleyball. To compete in volleyball you have to recruit nationally. Penn State has players from all over including international players. California and Illinois are the state most represented on Penn State Roster.
California 3
Illinois 3
Pennsylvania 2
Colorado 2
Ohio
Ontario
Haiti
Texas
Wisconsin
Serbia
New York
New Jersey
Puerto Rico
Virginia
Kentucky
Indiana
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Rutgers is not a national recruiting school by and large. May be better off dropping women's volleyball and replacing with another women's sport. Out here in California, women's wrestling is rising. Not sure if that is an option based on programs in NJ.
 
MamaRU said:
I have been following the program for awhile now. There is no reason that Rutgers should not be good to great program every year.
Great facilities for soccer, fertile recruiting in state, cheaper in state tuition to attract kids after you fill up your 9.5 scholarships.
Donigan did pretty well in his first few years at Rutgers with recruiting. Correa, Bruccoleri, Tainter, Corboz, Ross Tetro, Sa, Hamilton and Drezcik were all very good players that came in Donigans first three years. In my opinion he managed them poorly and should have done much better with the talent in the program.
You should never lose one of your best players to transfer but Corboz obviously lost confidence with the direction of the program. The team has often looked disorganized on the pitch and fails to utilize its players for their collective strengths. The top local players are no longer looking at the program. I have coached on the academy level and have many connections still to support that. It will be interesting to see how much your administration really cares about soccer.
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What are the names for a coach that would excite the local academy (and club) teams?
 
bigmatt718 said:
This the main difference between soccer and volleyball right there. Volleyball we can hold off until the facilities are upgraded, plus it's a rare sport that NJ High Schools are weak in, aka weak recruiting base. Meanwhile soccer should be an NCAA team every year with the talent in NJ. I would go after the Bucknell coach personally.
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I posted this in another forum, but agree, Brendan Nash from Bucknell would be perfect for the job. From Jersey, knows everyone. Hell, at one point I think he may have had 2 on NJ's #1 rated players on his roster - at a school w no scholarships.
 
AreYouNUTS said:
Fair enough just took a shot there!

Never said any such thing just laying out all the facts. Danny and I grew up together, never have hidden this fact, we've one another forever and played both hoops and soccer with, and against, one another. That being said, no question, if he loses his job it's 100% understandable. I just don't believe he loses it following this season regardless of what a disaster it's been AND on the heels of last year. I could be wrong, of course, but let's get back to the Bucknell coach moment:

Nash has been there 18 years. He's won 4 Patriot League titles. His tem went 7-7-5 last year and is currently 6-9-2.

THIS is the guy you're pushing? Not a chance. If DD gets fired we'll shoot much, much higher, or go with a young up-and-comer, IMHO.
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Disagree here. Any idea the last time Bucknell had won a league title? It had been a while. They are also the only Patriot league team without scholarships.
There may be other guys just as good, but guarantee you Nash could win a national title.
 
Unlike the women's game, the top men's teams are a mish-mash of schools from big and small conferences. You would think a B1G school with resources and exposure would be able to hire a big coach. And, as others have said in the thread, NJ is a soccer hotbed and there's no reason we're this bad.
 
Scarlet_Scourge said:
Maryland has the same problem that we do in Volleyball.

Can we just offer PA players? Penn State has a great team, but not all players at PA can play there? How are out of state players counts towards scholarships vs in state?
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The difference is that Maryland began investing money in its volleyball program in preparation for joining the B1G in 2014.

They got rid of their head coach and hired Steve Aird, a former Penn State player, Director of VB Ops, and Assistant Coach. He's a gamble hire imo, but so is taking a lower-tier job in the B1G. He's 10-13 so far this year, which is an awful record, but the B1G is SUCH a bear that 11 of those 13 losses have been to ranked teams. His squad has taken a number of ranked opponents to 5 sets this season, but didn't get over the hump until they beat #19 Ohio State last night. It's a climb up a steep hill.

The hire seems to be paying *some* dividends so far. Aird has a top-30 recruiting class coming in next year, has beaten four ranked opponents in the last two seasons, and hasn't finished last in the conference.

The program also announced plans to build an addition to the volleyball facility that will house new meeting space and new locker rooms for volleyball. Construction begins at the end of 2016. Renderings are below.

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