Agree completely. Attacks on law enforcement and the Judiciary happen in 3rd world countries. Civilized society can't tolerate this.
OT: Murder in North Brunswick
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My son clerked for her when she had the N.J. housewives case. He said she was extremely nice,and ext smart.
She was also loyal to RU and hired RU grads to clerk for her
She was also loyal to RU and hired RU grads to clerk for her
I don't think we know any of that now. They only found the suspect's body today. Probably still collecting evidence.
Until we know this must be treated as an attack on a federal judge and our judicial system and investigateD as such with the feds fully involved
Horrible. I feel for Judge Salas and hope her husband recovers. My older son is a couple years younger than their son but was friends with him in catholic school and StJM. He was torn up about hearing this. Cali you are a scumbag for trying to make that political BS remark when a child was killed.
Like I posted earlier these people matter and this case will get solved. All the resources from the top of the food chain will flow down . This attention wouldn’t happen for the regular every day citizen . That’s how things work
https://nypost.com/2020/07/20/roy-d...medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons
The gunman suspected of killing the son and wounding the husband of a federal judge in New Jersey before taking his own life in New York’s Catskills has been identified as lawyer and men’s rights activist Roy Den Hollander, federal sources said.
Hollander — whose website details “anti-feminist cases” and calls for clients to “help battle the infringement of Men’s Rights by the Feminists” — was found dead in Rockland County, NY on Monday, according to sources.
Investigators believe Hollander shot himself hours after an attack on the North Brunswick, NJ, home of federal Judge Esther Salas.
On Monday, Hollander was found dead, surrounded by a gun possibly used in the attack, and a package or envelope addressed to Salas, according to sources.
The gunman suspected of killing the son and wounding the husband of a federal judge in New Jersey before taking his own life in New York’s Catskills has been identified as lawyer and men’s rights activist Roy Den Hollander, federal sources said.
Hollander — whose website details “anti-feminist cases” and calls for clients to “help battle the infringement of Men’s Rights by the Feminists” — was found dead in Rockland County, NY on Monday, according to sources.
Investigators believe Hollander shot himself hours after an attack on the North Brunswick, NJ, home of federal Judge Esther Salas.
On Monday, Hollander was found dead, surrounded by a gun possibly used in the attack, and a package or envelope addressed to Salas, according to sources.
Why? How about- until we know, let's not assign a target to the attack until all of the facts are examined? Why must it be otherwise?
You really don't have a clue about how homicide investigations are conducted.
I’m not saying the public should but the feds must put the resources in and assume it is.
How sick was this bastard? Unreal case, fascinating but so disturbing.
Not quite along the lines of what people speculated about. Just seems like a deranged lunatic. Wonder if they will find a motive. The article says: "ABC 7 NY has reported that investigators believe Salas’ husband was the intended target."
The suspected killer worked for ABC 7 NY news early in his career.
They're also investigating the suspect for a possible killing in California too..another "men's rights" attorney was killed. NBC 4 news said that Hollander had writings specifically mentioning the judge.
NBC 4 report just now didn't make it sound like it was the husband more like the judge as the target. He supposedly had writings specifically mentioning the judge and demeaning her. They said he directs vulgar hate speech at the judge in his book and called her lazy and incompetent. They also found some sort of research near his body on the judge and her family.
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A couple things, I don’t follow Cali’s posts like some of you, but the criticism seems harsh. This is a forum
not a memorial site. He said ZERO negative or callous in regards to the tragic loss of life. His statement may be considered political in nature & that’s fair on this type site. I personally consider defunding the police a sham. Who’d be responsible to track this scum down, if we didn’t have proper law enforcement.
As for protection for judges & others, it exists, but you can’t protect everyone all of the time. I have a friend, former police officer, who came out of retirement to work for the US Marshalls. His primary job is protecting judges. Another friend, former federal prosecutor, often had armed protection when dealing with high profile cases, especially after receiving death threats. At one point he was forced to move residences due to the threats. Prior to that, he had marshals living in his home. Not the ideal situation for a family.
Life can be cruel at times.
He appeared on Fox News about a decade ago and filed a bunch of suits against the media saying they were involved in a conspiracy against Trump, he also worked in Russia. all very interesting. Apparently the judge ruled in his favor last year in some case.
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That’s the language the reporter used. I don’t know if he actually wrote a book, manifesto or whatnot.
Once said and done this saga, and tragedy will end up being a book, or movie. This new article from the Daily News is wild.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...0200720-3n44ra6e4re77doaynwyo4gjxy-story.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...0200720-3n44ra6e4re77doaynwyo4gjxy-story.html
https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/statement-us-attorney-s-office
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, July 20, 2020
Statement From U.S. Attorney’s Office
NEWARK, N.J. – The FBI has identified Roy Den Hollander as the primary subject in the attack that occurred at the home of the Honorable Esther Salas on July 19, 2020. Den Hollander is now deceased. The investigation remains ongoing. Individuals who believe they have information relevant to the investigation should contact FBI-Newark at 973-792-2000, press option 2.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Monday, July 20, 2020
Statement From U.S. Attorney’s Office
NEWARK, N.J. – The FBI has identified Roy Den Hollander as the primary subject in the attack that occurred at the home of the Honorable Esther Salas on July 19, 2020. Den Hollander is now deceased. The investigation remains ongoing. Individuals who believe they have information relevant to the investigation should contact FBI-Newark at 973-792-2000, press option 2.
There has to be more to this story than what took place in the courtroom, lawyers just don't go shooting judges over cases.
This guy was an incel nut. Read his lawsuits.
Will not link it here because of a lot of inappropriate content, but on YouTube there is audio of Roy Den Hollander on Opie and Anthony, and he was a warped person.
Meh, had to look "incel" up, lovely bunch they are.
Incels (/ˈɪnsɛlz/ IN-selz), a portmanteau of "involuntary celibates", are members of an online subculture who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.[1][2][3] Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against sexually active people.[14] The American nonprofit Southern Poverty Law Center described the subculture as "part of the online male supremacist ecosystem" that is included in their list of hate groups.[15][16] Incels are mostly male and heterosexual.[10][12][17] Many sources report that incels are predominantly white, although a group of researchers have argued that there is no definitive proof to support this claim.[18][19][20][21] Estimates of the overall size of the subculture vary greatly, ranging from thousands to hundreds of thousands.[22][23]
At least six mass murders, resulting in a total of 44 deaths, have been committed since 2014 by men who have either self-identified as incels or who had mentioned incel-related names and writings in their private writings or Internet postings. Incel communities have been criticized by the media and researchers for being misogynistic, encouraging violence, spreading extremist views, and radicalizing their members.[2][24][25][20] Beginning in 2018, the incel ideology has increasingly been described as a terrorism threat, and a February 2020 attack in Toronto, Canada became the first instance of allegedly incel-related violence to be prosecuted as an act of terrorism.[20][26][27][
I didn't even think incel, that could help explain it, those men are absolutely scary individuals
Clinically speaking he's probably a long term psychopath, has had wild anti-social thoughts, and behaviors since childhood. These personalities often go over the deep end eventually. But at times can become floridly psychotic.
One of my buds at Rutgers back in the Seventies always said that the root of most of the problems in this society was lack of sex.
I always wondered if he was on to something.
That's a pretty bad look for him to immediately make a political statement after something like this.
You know, when I started seeing these reports and looked at his age I thought about illness having an impact. That said, it appears bitterness consumed him and tragically devastated an innocent family.
Killer was an anti-feminist lunatic.
This is the guy who sued NYC nightclubs claiming they were discriminating against men.
Another (thankfully deleted) lunatic conspiracy theory debunked on this board from the usual suspects who hopefully are finally receiving the punishment they've been deserved for over a decade.
This is the guy who sued NYC nightclubs claiming they were discriminating against men.
Another (thankfully deleted) lunatic conspiracy theory debunked on this board from the usual suspects who hopefully are finally receiving the punishment they've been deserved for over a decade.
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