OT: Murphy to order all New Jerseyans to Wear masks outdoors (when social distancing isn’t possible)
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I find it sad that most of the usual suspects who want to make their own decision on wearing a mask are also the ones who argue the govt should restrict decision making on a certain sex at times.
I do this a lot, and will continue to do it ... so I’m happy to make you giggle !
If you have more than one stop, what is the alternative? take it on and off at each stop ? Even if you are careful, you are likely touching something at each stop, and then touching your face when you take off your mask and put it back on ... it’s easier to just leave it on. It’s not like wearing a mask is difficult.
good for those people ! If they are wearing their mask at 6:30am, you can be sure they are wearing it at other times too. If everyone followed their lead, we would be in Phase 4 of re-opening now.
Also, even at 6:30am, there are occasionally people walking the other direction on the sidewalk. What would you suggest? Put it on and take it off everytime someone walks past. It’s easier to just put it on and leave it on.
You are correct. Not worth it. This is why there any many posters on here who do not post as frequently. The trolls are trying to take over.
Zak leads the pack,
I choose to read a thread about masks and have to read about his abortion views. sad
Perhaps after someone explains why a simple mask when your out and about possibly interacting with others is such horrible infringement on your daily life.
Because I've seen zero evidence of community spread from outdoor situations. I said earlier in this thread that I'd be happy to read up if someone has evidence to the contrary.
If there's zero is statistically zero chance of outdoor transmission happening, why is this executive order necessary?
Your rights end when they potentially infringe on others' rights to be healthy and well. Unfortunately, Murphy had to put some weight behind the Executive Order, in an an effort to close the gap between common sense compliance and willful defiance. Hey...as long as you don't play stupid games, you don't have to fear stupid prizes.
Screw the mask and distance crap. The jackass in Trenton 2 weeks ago broke another one of his orders. Taking selfies with admirers in a restaurant.
The people driving with masks on drive erratically due to lack of oxygen. Watch them. It's hilarious.
Don’t look now but this board has become 70% current events and 30% football.
NYC mayor, Wilhelm, said he's banning all large gatherings in the city through September due to CV
With one exception, BLM Inc gatherings.
Is that constitutional?
Will the ACLU get involved, seems like that is right up their alley
This is obviously not right, favoritism, but legally, can a govt official ban everyone from assembling except a particular group?
Lawyers?
With one exception, BLM Inc gatherings.
Is that constitutional?
Will the ACLU get involved, seems like that is right up their alley
This is obviously not right, favoritism, but legally, can a govt official ban everyone from assembling except a particular group?
Lawyers?
It's insane that a political movement , Marxism, has infiltrated sports, the last escape.
Society was so much better last year around this time.
I look forward to the insanity to vanish so we can focus on actual football.
What exactly does it say?
It's a "believe it when they kickoff" situation right now.
NorthernKaren's numbers are crap, fyi.
You meant to say play stupid games or protest and loot, right?
Funny that you evoke one of my favorite takeaways from the U.S. constitutions. Because generally, I do agree with the notion that one's right to throw a punch ends where another's nose begins.
However, there are several problems with your post in this particular case:
1. The order in question is an executive order, rather a law that was passed by any legislature. The Constitution is clear that the legislative branch makes the laws, the executive branch enforces them, and courts determine their constitutionality. Executive orders have of course been used by national, state, and some local authorities, but are subject to being overridden by legislation and court review (more on this below).
2. A fine of $1,000 can easily be argued as excessive, and 6-month jail term unusual punishment, merely for refusing to wear a cloth mask over your face while outdoors in fresh air, either of which would constitute a violation of the 8th Amendment.
3. The numerous executive orders that have outright shut down or otherwise limited economic activity, effectively limited intrastate and interstate travel, and trampled all over 1st Amendment-guaranteed individual rights as I explained in my earlier post, may be considered borderline acceptable during a period of national emergency, as could be argued was the case when COVID-19 was a new nationwide pandemic with completely unknown effects, transmission, and treatments during March & April 2020. However, continuing violations of the Constitution by states/cities will not pass muster once numerous lawsuits by businesses and individuals make their way through the courts, simply because it is not reasonable to continue a national emergency for months on end when there are now proven ways to greatly reduce virus transmission, as well as much more effective known treatments for those sick and hospitalized.
4. Masks are of course effective indoors with still or artificially ventilated air, but even then not a 100% guarantee in preventing transmission of the COVID-19 virus, which is widely known at this point. Private businesses and other publicly accessible buildings are of course free to require their patrons to wear masks or take any other reasonable precautions in order to allow access. Outdoors, masks are recommended only when people gather closely together; otherwise, the risk of outdoor transmission of COVID-19 is believed to be very low. Therefore, the argument that my wearing a mask would somehow guarantee your health and wellness falls flat on its face, and does not merit an executive order with that very requirement.
Honest question not trying to flame. How many people actually know someone who has actually had Covid? I swear it's only people from Hollywood and Athletes that catch this. In my entire circle which includes at least 300 individual people not one of them has had covid or even knows someone who has caught it. It's kind of hilarious to me as here we are however many months later after the media kept telling us we're going to die for just walking outside, I still have not met a single person who has caught it or even knows someone who has....
I live in a development of 110 homes. I personally know 4 people who have died of Covid19
just in my neighborhood.
Consider yourself very lucky, then. Unfortunately I know not only people who have had it, but also two people who have passed from it. Three of my employees have had it, two of my clients have had it. It’s a nasty nasty disease that really screws with the health and morale of those it infects. Tonight I learned one of my friends from high school (37 years old) has had it for weeks and went to the ER tonight.
Sayreville. After I posted my little story, I realized it was not entirely accurate.
The 4 people I personally knew who died of Covid19, in years past, have lived
in my neighborhood.
perhaps I am lucky, I'm out in Carroll County Md and our cases have been minimal this entire time. It really hasn't impacted daily life out here besides not being able to go to concerts and large gatherings, Like I said I wasn't trying to flame, I genuinely do not know a single person who has been impacted by this disease outside of Job loss.... There's a lot more of that going on than Covid out here. people losing their jobs and savings but hey we have to protect grandma right?
Yes.
The 170,000 + positives in NJ and 15,000 + deaths in NJ are all celebrities and athletes.
You nailed it.
Carroll County is nice country, and yeah, only 1,200 cases and 114 deaths there so far. Carroll County’s population is over 160,000. We’ll have had that many deaths nationwide in a week or two.
Apparently not.
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