OT: NCAA College Football Games Thread 11/19-11/23 Tues-Sat

[rutgersguy1]

Tuesday, Nov. 19

7 p.m. | Akron at Kent State | CBSSN
7:30 p.m. | Western Michigan at Central Michigan | ESPN2
8 p.m. | Northern Illinois at Miami (Ohio) | ESPN

Wednesday, Nov. 20

7 p.m. | Buffalo at Eastern Michigan | ESPNU
7 p.m. | Ohio at Toledo | ESPN2

Thursday, Nov. 21

7:30 p.m. | NC State at Georgia Tech | ESPN

Friday, Nov. 22

7 p.m. | Temple at UTSA | ESPN2
8 p.m. | Purdue at Michigan State | FOX
10 p.m. | UNLV at San Jose State | FS1

Saturday, Nov. 23

12 p.m. | Indiana at Ohio State | FOX
12 p.m. | Wake Forest at Miami (Fla.) | ESPN
12 p.m. | Ole Miss at Florida | ABC/ESPN+
12 p.m. | SMU at Virginia | ESPN2
12 p.m. | Iowa at Maryland | Big Ten Network
12 p.m. | UConn at Syracuse | ACC Network
12 p.m. | North Carolina at Boston College | CW Network
12 p.m. | Sam Houston at Jacksonville State | CBSSN
12 p.m. | Illinois at Rutgers | Peacock
12 p.m. | Yale at Harvard | ESPNU
12:30 p.m. | UCF at West Virginia | ESPNU
12:45 p.m. | UMass at Georgia | SEC Network
1:30 p.m. | Charleston Southern at Florida State | ESPN+/ACCNX
3 p.m. | Arizona at TCU | ESPN+
3:30 p.m. | Kentucky at Texas | ABC/ESPN+
3:30 p.m. | BYU at Arizona State | ESPN
3:30 p.m. | Colorado vs. Kansas (at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Missouri) | FOX
3:30 p.m. | The Citadel at Clemson | CW Network
3:30 p.m. | Northwestern at Michigan | FS1
3:30 p.m. | Stanford at Cal | ACC Network
3:30 p.m. | San Diego State at Utah State | CBSSN
3:30 p.m. | Wisconsin at Nebraska | BTN
3:30 p.m. | Penn State at Minnesota | CBSSN
3:30 p.m. | Texas Tech at Oklahoma State | ESPN+
4 p.m. | Pitt at Louisville | ESPN2
4:15 p.m. | Missouri at Mississippi State | SEC Network
7 p.m. | Army vs. Notre Dame (Yankee Stadium at the Bronx, New York) | NBC/Peacock
7 p.m. | Boise State at Wyoming | CBSSN
7 p.m. | Washington State at Oregon State | CW Network
7 p.m. | Baylor at Houston | FS1
7:30 p.m. | Alabama at Oklahoma | ABC/ESPN+
7:30 p.m. | Texas A&M at Auburn | ESPN
7:30 p.m. | Marshall at Old Dominion | ESPNU
7:30 p.m. | Iowa State at Utah | FOX
7:45 p.m. | Vanderbilt at LSU | SEC Network
8 p.m. | Virginia Tech at Duke | ACC Network
8 p.m. | Cincinnati at Kansas State | ESPN2
10:30 p.m. | Air Force at Nevada | FS1
10:30 p.m. | Colorado State at Fresno State | CBSSN
10:30 p.m. | USC at UCLA | NBC

 

[rutgersguy1]

 

[Doctor Worm]

Don't sleep on tonight's matchup between #125 Akron and #134 (out of 134) Kent State. These local rivals are playing for the coveted Blue and Gold Wagon Wheel. You can throw out the record books for this one!

 

[Knight Shift]

Tuesday, Nov. 19

7 p.m. | Akron at Kent State | CBSSN
7:30 p.m. | Western Michigan at Central Michigan | ESPN2
8 p.m. | Northern Illinois at Miami (Ohio) | ESPN

Wednesday, Nov. 20

7 p.m. | Buffalo at Eastern Michigan | ESPNU
7 p.m. | Ohio at Toledo | ESPN2

Thursday, Nov. 21

7:30 p.m. | NC State at Georgia Tech | ESPN

Friday, Nov. 22

7 p.m. | Temple at UTSA | ESPN2
8 p.m. | Purdue at Michigan State | FOX
10 p.m. | UNLV at San Jose State | FS1

Saturday, Nov. 23

12 p.m. | Indiana at Ohio State | FOX
12 p.m. | Wake Forest at Miami (Fla.) | ESPN
12 p.m. | Ole Miss at Florida | ABC/ESPN+
12 p.m. | SMU at Virginia | ESPN2
12 p.m. | Iowa at Maryland | Big Ten Network
12 p.m. | UConn at Syracuse | ACC Network
12 p.m. | North Carolina at Boston College | CW Network
12 p.m. | Sam Houston at Jacksonville State | CBSSN
12 p.m. | Illinois at Rutgers | Peacock
12 p.m. | Yale at Harvard | ESPNU
12:30 p.m. | UCF at West Virginia | ESPNU
12:45 p.m. | UMass at Georgia | SEC Network
1:30 p.m. | Charleston Southern at Florida State | ESPN+/ACCNX
3 p.m. | Arizona at TCU | ESPN+
3:30 p.m. | Kentucky at Texas | ABC/ESPN+
3:30 p.m. | BYU at Arizona State | ESPN
3:30 p.m. | Colorado vs. Kansas (at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Missouri) | FOX
3:30 p.m. | The Citadel at Clemson | CW Network
3:30 p.m. | Northwestern at Michigan | FS1
3:30 p.m. | Stanford at Cal | ACC Network
3:30 p.m. | San Diego State at Utah State | CBSSN
3:30 p.m. | Wisconsin at Nebraska | BTN
3:30 p.m. | Penn State at Minnesota | CBSSN
3:30 p.m. | Texas Tech at Oklahoma State | ESPN+
4 p.m. | Pitt at Louisville | ESPN2
4:15 p.m. | Missouri at Mississippi State | SEC Network
7 p.m. | Army vs. Notre Dame (Yankee Stadium at the Bronx, New York) | NBC/Peacock
7 p.m. | Boise State at Wyoming | CBSSN
7 p.m. | Washington State at Oregon State | CW Network
7 p.m. | Baylor at Houston | FS1
7:30 p.m. | Alabama at Oklahoma | ABC/ESPN+
7:30 p.m. | Texas A&M at Auburn | ESPN
7:30 p.m. | Marshall at Old Dominion | ESPNU
7:30 p.m. | Iowa State at Utah | FOX
7:45 p.m. | Vanderbilt at LSU | SEC Network
8 p.m. | Virginia Tech at Duke | ACC Network
8 p.m. | Cincinnati at Kansas State | ESPN2
10:30 p.m. | Air Force at Nevada | FS1
10:30 p.m. | Colorado State at Fresno State | CBSSN
10:30 p.m. | USC at UCLA | NBC

MACtion!!!!!

 

[rutgersguy1]

 

[Knight Shift]

 

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[rutgersguy1]

Boise with a bye, at least for now. Not sure that will hold as the rest of the season plays out. All 4 quarterfinals up north too. Doesn't mean much for BYU but could for the SEC teams.

 

[Knight Shift]

Boise with a bye, at least for now. Not sure that will hold as the rest of the season plays out. All 4 quarterfinals up north too. Doesn't mean much for BYU but could for the SEC teams.

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Miami and Boise getting byes is silly. Hate to say it, but PSU and Ohio State should take their places. Run the table, and swap out Indiana for Texas and make it an all B1G bye fest.

 

[RUMorrisTech]

SEC fans seem to be a little pissed off that they're ranked below Indiana and Penn State

 

[NickRU714]

Miami and Boise getting byes is silly. Hate to say it, but PSU and Ohio State should take their places. Run the table, and swap out Indiana for Texas and make it an all B1G bye fest.

It'd be funny if it wasn't so dumb.
Why should Miami and BYU get a bye/higher seed?
Conference championships matter!

What about the other 5 Conference champions?
Well only some conferences matter obviously.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Miami and Boise getting byes is silly. Hate to say it, but PSU and Ohio State should take their places. Run the table, and swap out Indiana for Texas and make it an all B1G bye fest.

I like it. Making conference championships meaningful and important is exactly why it was set up like that and why they get byes. I'm fine with it. It's no different that playoffs in the pros (at least in the past, I don't watch pro sports now) where a division winner with a worse record would get higher seed, home field etc..

 

[NickRU714]

I like it. Making conference championships meaningful and important is exactly why it was set up like that and why they get byes. I'm fine with it. It's no different that playoffs in the pros (at least in the past, I don't watch pro sports now) where a division winner with a worse record would get higher seed, home field etc..

The difference is ALL divisions matter in the pros. Every division winner gets in and is seeded equally.

Only half of college conference champs matter.
College athletics loves to fake like they care about equality.

 

[rutgersguy1]

It'd be funny if it wasn't so dumb.
Why should Miami and BYU get a bye/higher seed?
Conference championships matter!

What about the other 5 Conference champions?
Well only some conferences matter obviously.

Any of the G5 have an opportunity to get that G5 spot and a very long shot at the bye. The MWC, PAC and AAC though have a better chance but not guaranteed. In the past a MAC team would have made it one year. Last year Liberty would have made it too.

 

[rutgersguy1]

The difference is ALL divisions matter in the pros. Every division winner gets in and is seeded equally.

Only half of college conference champs matter.
College athletics loves to fake like they care about equality.

All the G5 have an opportunity to get that G5 spot. It's not exclusive to any one of them but MWC/PAC/AAC might have a leg up.

Comparing the pros and CFB is apples and orange to some degree because there are mechanisms *draft, salary cap) to try and create balance. So all divisions and the teams in them are on the same level playing field. That's not the case in CFB. CFB has more parity than ever before and opportunity is as good as ever but it's nothing like the pros in terms of trying to create competitive balance and parity.

 

[NickRU714]

Any of the G5 have an opportunity to get that G5 spot and a very long shot at the bye. The MWC and AAC though have a better chance but not guaranteed. In the past a MAC team would have made it one year. Last year Liberty would have made it too.

So could every other team.
You are just describing at-large bids.
Any team could play their way in.

Nothing to do with "value of conference championships".
Only 5 out of 10 have value.

I didn't compare it to the pros.

 

[rutgersguy1]

So could every other team.
You are just describing at-large bids.
Any team could play their way in.

Nothing to do with "value of conference championships".
Only 5 out of 10 have value.

I didn't compare it to the pros.

You didn't compare it to the pros but you said every division winner gets in and is seeded. There's a reason for that. They're all on equal footing so they can be treated that way. They have the same resources.

All teams in the CFB aren't on equal footing so you're not going to treat them all equally. You can't act as if everyone is the same when they're not. Conference championships having value doesn't mean every single conference champion is the same or that you have enough room to take them all like they do in the NCAA tourney.

There's no absolute black and white in CFB and there can't because of the size of the sport and the inequality in terms of resources. The best you get is shades of grey and some opportunity for those who don't have the same resources.

 

[Knight Shift]

Any of the G5 have an opportunity to get that G5 spot and a very long shot at the bye. The MWC, PAC and AAC though have a better chance but not guaranteed. In the past a MAC team would have made it one year. Last year Liberty would have made it too.

G5 spot? Is that in one of the end zones, or an other E Zone? 🤔Asking for a confused friend. This is a G-rated site, so no need to post pictures or anything.

 

[Knight Shift]

I like it. Making conference championships meaningful and important is exactly why it was set up like that and why they get byes. I'm fine with it. It's no different that playoffs in the pros (at least in the past, I don't watch pro sports now) where a division winner with a worse record would get higher seed, home field etc..

Yeah, I was being facetious. It will make people's heads explode, but AWD and others have made a very good case for SMU. My real problem is with Miami-pillow soft schedule, should have lost to Va Tech (refs gifted the game to them), nearly lost to Cal (a Kansas-like team with a 4 or 5 very close losses), and they only have Wake Forest and Syracuse remaining. ACC is very much down this year, and not sure if/when it will be back up.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Yeah, I was being facetious. It will make people's heads explode, but AWD and others have made a very good case for SMU. My real problem is with Miami-pillow soft schedule, should have lost to Va Tech (refs gifted the game to them), nearly lost to Cal (a Kansas-like team with a 4 or 5 very close losses), and they only have Wake Forest and Syracuse remaining. ACC is very much down this year, and not sure if/when it will be back up.

I think SMU has a solid case to be in front of Miami myself but if they win out they can prove it in the ACC title game.


Also agree with this. Too many hypotheticals and the SEC trying to bully its way in. It’s not as if some of those teams don’t have some bad losses. You can’t know for sure who will beat who. TCU beat Michigan, Washington beat Texas, Michigan beat Alabama. There aren’t really any super teams this year and the probability of them emerging in the future seems less now than in the past.

 

[Knight Shift]

I think SMU has a solid case to be in front of Miami myself but if they win out they can prove it in the ACC title game.


Also agree with this. Too many hypotheticals and the SEC trying to bully its way in. It’s not as if some of those teams don’t have some bad losses. You can’t know for sure who will beat who. TCU beat Michigan, Washington beat Texas, Michigan beat Alabama. There aren’t really any super teams this year and the probability of them emerging in the future seems less now than in the past.

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Absolutely agree. Part of me wants to see Syracuse take down Miami, but that would present other issues on this forum. 😂

In other important Rutgers news, Akron is putting a major hurting on Kent State tonight, and that is definitely going to beef up Rutgers' strength of schedule. 🙃

 

[Doctor Worm]

Here's one I guaran-damn-tee you've never seen before. From the Western Michigan - Central Michigan game.

TIME OF POSSESSION IN 3RD QUARTER: WMU 0:00, CMU 15:00

POINTS IN 3RD QUARTER: WMU 7, CMU 0.

Ain't MAC-tion great?

 

[rutgersguy1]

 

[Knight Shift]

Boise with a bye, at least for now. Not sure that will hold as the rest of the season plays out. All 4 quarterfinals up north too. Doesn't mean much for BYU but could for the SEC teams.

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This Matt Schick post on X is comedy gold:

 

[Knight Shift]

Relegated. . . .

CFP Anger Index: Bama beats Mercer and gets to jump Miami?

Breaking down which teams have the most to be angry about with this week's CFP rankings.

www.espn.com

 

[rutgersguy1]

This Matt Schick post on X is comedy gold:

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I think expansion of the playoffs and home games away from cozy confines can potentially help to break this SEC bias. The SEC has had some dominant teams no doubt but it doesn't mean the rest of the conference is always so strong. It was very strong at the top (essentially due to Saban) but now with portal and NIL, I think that is weakening for the SEC and everyone else too. We'll see how good they are as you go down the conference. Playoffs have real stakes on the line unlike bowl games.

I wouldn't even take this year to mean much one way or the other but over time we'll get a better idea just how good they are or aren't. Just look at last year with 2 B10 (future/present) teams vs 2 SEC (future/present) and who won the games. The most deserving teams in a conference will get in, if someone farther down the list doesn't well that's too bad.

I do think it will eventually lead to further expansion. 14 is already written into the contract and I wouldn't rule out 16 further in the future.

 

[Knight Shift]

I think expansion of the playoffs and home games away from cozy confines can potentially help to break this SEC bias. The SEC has had some dominant teams no doubt but it doesn't mean the rest of the conference is always so strong. It was very strong at the top (essentially due to Saban) but now with portal and NIL, I think that is weakening for the SEC and everyone else too. We'll see how good they are as you go down the conference. Playoffs have real stakes on the line unlike bowl games.

I wouldn't even take this year to mean much one way or the other but over time we'll get a better idea just how good they are or aren't. Just look at last year with 2 B10 (future/present) teams vs 2 SEC (future/present) and who won the games.

Also weird to see Michigan in the dumps, but that's what happens when the cheaters are gone? Despite getting thrashed by them, Wisconsin's continued middling performance with supposed stud HC Fickell is a head scratcher. And those poor Trojans!!! Of course, the biggest surprise is Indiana.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Also weird to see Michigan in the dumps, but that's what happens when the cheaters are gone? Despite getting thrashed by them, Wisconsin's continued middling performance with supposed stud HC Fickell is a head scratcher. And those poor Trojans!!! Of course, the biggest surprise is Indiana.

That's why assumptions and expectations can't be used to such an extent whether it's coming into a season or who would beat who in a playoff.

 

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That UConn Syracuse game is a good candidate for a giant meteor strike on this board. RU fans will be unhappy whatever the outcome. Probably best to root for UConn. . . . .


Unrelated, and maybe covered above?

 

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[mdk01]

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Monken is the perfect coach for Army. I not sorry how well it would transger somewhere else.

 

[Knight Shift]

What a game Ga Tech and NC State. Back and forth in the 4th quarter, NC State misses a FG as time expired. 30-29.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Monken is the perfect coach for Army. I not sorry how well it would transger somewhere else.

I wouldn’t assume he’d run the same offense somewhere else. Ken N is at SJSU and I saw their back and forth game against WSU and he was running an offense nothing like what he ran at Navy. Felt like they were using 4 wide the whole game iirc. Coaches who have demonstrated doing more with less and find ways to work around deficits are solid choices imo.

 

[Knight Shift]

What a game Ga Tech and NC State. Back and forth in the 4th quarter, NC State misses a FG as time expired. 30-29.

36 points in 4th quarter. Guess nobody else watched the ACCtion?