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OT: NY Mets Season

Good teams find ways of winning when you score 6 and 7 runs a game.

Time to decide quickly, blow up the team and build around Conforto, Rosario, Alsonso, Nimmo etc...

Trade Thor or Degrom (not both)

Immediately cut Reyes and Blevins

Very tough watching this team
 
Good teams find ways of winning when you score 6 and 7 runs a game.

Time to decide quickly, blow up the team and build around Conforto, Rosario, Alsonso, Nimmo etc...

Trade Thor or Degrom (not both)

Immediately cut Reyes and Blevins

Very tough watching this team

Pretty much how I've felt about this team since April. Unload all the dead wood. There are some solid core guy who aren't washed up and useless.

And this David Wright albatross needs to be lifted from the ball club. It's ridiculous. He hasn't played a game in 2 years - they need to figure out how to send him on his way.
 
Pretty much how I've felt about this team since April. Unload all the dead wood. There are some solid core guy who aren't washed up and useless.

And this David Wright albatross needs to be lifted from the ball club. It's ridiculous. He hasn't played a game in 2 years - they need to figure out how to send him on his way.
They don’t pay wright and he’s not on the roster so who cares
 
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They don’t pay wright and he’s not on the roster so who cares
1) They do pay Wright at least something. The insurance does not pay 100%.

2) He is on the 60 day DL during the season, so he does not occupy a spot on the 40 man roster. However, there is no DL during the offseason, and so he must be protected on the 40 man, which means that somebody must go unprotected.
 
Good teams find ways of winning when you score 6 and 7 runs a game.

Time to decide quickly, blow up the team and build around Conforto, Rosario, Alsonso, Nimmo etc...

Trade Thor or Degrom (not both)

Immediately cut Reyes and Blevins

Very tough watching this team
IDK. What does it mean to "blow up the team". And do you want to do it in May? Still have six weeks to decide if you are in buy, sell, or hold mode.

Sure, you can DFA Reyes, Blevins, and throw in Ramos and Vargas while you're at it. I sure wouldn't complain. But you haven't blown anything up... yet. You haven't moved the needle one iota.

Blowing it up means judiciously trading guys who have big-time market value. You are correct - you wanna blow it up, you gotta trade Thor or Jake. I would say trade Jake (whose market value will never be higher) and keep Thor (who's four years younger and probably still has the higher ceiling). But you still have six weeks to make that decision.

And once you've fired that bullet, then what? You have no other bullets.
 
IDK. What does it mean to "blow up the team". And do you want to do it in May? Still have six weeks to decide if you are in buy, sell, or hold mode.

Sure, you can DFA Reyes, Blevins, and throw in Ramos and Vargas while you're at it. I sure wouldn't complain. But you haven't blown anything up... yet. You haven't moved the needle one iota.

Blowing it up means judiciously trading guys who have big-time market value. You are correct - you wanna blow it up, you gotta trade Thor or Jake. I would say trade Jake (whose market value will never be higher) and keep Thor (who's four years younger and probably still has the higher ceiling). But you still have six weeks to make that decision.

And once you've fired that bullet, then what? You have no other bullets.
If you trade Jake you must get back at least 2 very good major league player plus prospects. You are not winning this year. Take those players plus Conforto Nimmo, Rosario, Alfonso and Ces ( don’t think he would garner much in return. Our quality minor league pitchers ( especially the starters are years away).

To me decide now. Let teams know Jake can be had. Maybe even Familia can get you something. Writing is on the wall. With the injuries we have, you can’t compete bringing up Robles and Nido.
 
In this wild-card era, Sandy is not going to give up on the season with a .500 team on Memorial Day. He's just not. No GM would.

Bird, not saying you are wrong. Just saying that to use a poker analogy, that is a VERY tough lay down.
 
In this wild-card era, Sandy is not going to give up on the season with a .500 team on Memorial Day. He's just not. No GM would.

Bird, not saying you are wrong. Just saying that to use a poker analogy, that is a VERY tough lay down.
I’ll use a stock market analogy trade high, buy low. What happens when Thor or Degrom get hurt again? No trading chips and certainly no one yet from the minors to replace them. Good bye .500 season. Let’s not fool ourselves and think with this group we are making a wild card run. Way to many fragile players and lack of depth
 
Mets would never trade Degrom to Yankees but if a deal ever happened the starting point is Torres and additional players. None of andujar Frazier or Austin are impact players. Degrom is simply the best pitcher in baseball right now and you don't give up the best for part time yankee mediocre players who are not impactful.

DeGrom is great no doubt, but remember that he is 30 years old and plays every 5 days. All 3 Yankee players are rookies who would start on many teams.......how.much impact impact they will have is still open at this point. The question is how far away from a contending team you think the Mets are with deGrom or if they should kick start a rebuild with younger players. How bout if Justice Sheffield was included? He will likely be in the Yankees rotation next year?

Conversely Torres is 21 and has a very high value right now......would you take him and a couple prospects?

Ps.....I agree that it would be very unlikely that Mets and Yanks would trade....but wanted to see Mets fans take on this.
 
Please stop people. Highly doubt Mets and Yankees would make a trade involving a stud pitcher that could help yanks win World Series and prospects that could help the Mets for years.
The Mets wouldn’t even trade Jay Bruce to the yanks last year and took less from Cleveland.
 
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And now Flores to the DL. Team will not be .500 for long
 
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Trade Jake now!

1. He deserves better
2. Get a huge haul for him at this point
3. Injury away from zero trade value
 
And Callaway continues to push all the WRONG buttons.

Calloway couldn’t manage his way out of a paper bag. All the pitchers have gotten worse except deGrom, who is probably smart enough not to listen to him, Gselmann, and Syndergaard, who has remained the same.

His game management is off the charts bad...even worse than Collins.
 
The money is coming in on the Braves in the second game faster than is the lava flowing in Hawaii.They don't even care who the Mets' pitcher is.They're just betting against them.
 
The money is coming in on the Braves in the second game faster than is the lava flowing in Hawaii.They don't even care who the Mets' pitcher is.They're just betting against them.
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And Callaway continues to push all the WRONG buttons.
I try to never second guess a manager's decision. But I will critique the decision making process. And I think Callaway's process today was all wrong.

By his own statements on the postgame, he went into today's game with the preconceived plan that he would use Lugo for two innings. He clearly wanted to save Familia for the second game - a game which may never be played, and even if played, he may not need a closer. He did need one this afternoon.

If Callaway had looked the camera in the eye and said that he genuinely believed that Lugo, rather than Familia, gave him the best chance to shut down the Braves in the ninth, then fine. I will never second guess a manager or coach in that situation. But that wasn't the case here. Callaway went with his second best option on the POSSIBILITY that it would help him win the next game. Worry about the game you're playing, Mickey!
 
deGrom waved off Callaway today. Just make him the player/manager.



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I try to never second guess a manager's decision. But I will critique the decision making process. And I think Callaway's process today was all wrong.

By his own statements on the postgame, he went into today's game with the preconceived plan that he would use Lugo for two innings. He clearly wanted to save Familia for the second game - a game which may never be played, and even if played, he may not need a closer. He did need one this afternoon.

If Callaway had looked the camera in the eye and said that he genuinely believed that Lugo, rather than Familia, gave him the best chance to shut down the Braves in the ninth, then fine. I will never second guess a manager or coach in that situation. But that wasn't the case here. Callaway went with his second best option on the POSSIBILITY that it would help him win the next game. Worry about the game you're playing, Mickey!
Someone needs to explain to me why Bobby V isn't Managing somewhere in the Bigs!!!
 
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