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OT: NY Mets Season

NL underdogs did well today:Giants,Pirates,Reds,Phillies,Diamondbacks and Padres.Perhaps it'll work interleague as well.
 
Vargas looming in the bullpen. Nobody else in the pen?
Yeah that would have been interesting. Looks like Callaway wanted a lefty to pitch to Gregorius. So his choices were Blevins and Vargas. I know you are a Blevins fan, so I understand your incredulity. Fortunately, Sanchez' shot found leather and Bird showed Little League baserunning skills, making the point moot.

He had other righty options (Sewald, Robles, Rhame, and Peterson) but none particularly attractive.
 
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Lugo to the Astros, he might be what Astros need in bullpen.
Even if the Mets decide to blow it up, I think Lugo is the type of guy you keep, because I don't think he has a sufficient body of work to be all that attractive to a contender. If I were to trade Lugo, I'd want to bring back a high level, MLB-ready position prospect, and another high-level prospect who's maybe a little further away from being ready. I don't think I'd get that.
 
Gonzalez and Lobaton gone. Smith and uggh Kelly up. Reyes lives another day somehow even though he tried to singlehandedly cost them the game last night.
 
Gonzalez and Lobaton gone. Smith and uggh Kelly up. Reyes lives another day somehow even though he tried to singlehandedly cost them the game last night.
Moves makes sense. When you have exactly two MLB-ready prospects in your organization, and they play the same position, you can't have an underperforming veteran in the way. Would that there were similar pressure on all the other underperforming veterans on the team.

Why the Kelly hate? He can play any position and thus is a serviceable 25th man. Yeah I know he's not very good, but who on the Mets is?
 
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Gonzalez and Lobaton gone. Smith and uggh Kelly up. Reyes lives another day somehow even though he tried to singlehandedly cost them the game last night.
When you post something like this, can you be clear and post a link? Someone above posted "Lugo to the Astros" when that was not case. Mets fans are in a tizzy, but all the this thread is getting hard to follow and decipher someone's trade wish list from actual trades.
 
I wrote he would be perfect for Astros, and there aren't any trades now anyway.
 
From Mets SNY blog:
The Mets released Adrian Gonzalez after Sunday's 2-0 win over the Yankees and announced they will promote first baseman Dominic Smith for Tuesday's game against the Atlanta Braves.
The 36-year-old Gonzalez, who went 0-for-3 with three strikeouts on Sunday, hit just .237 with six home runs and 26 RBIs in 54 games. He was in the midst of a 1-for-22 slump at the time of his release.
Smith, 22, who hit .198 with nine home runs and 16 RBIs in 49 games with the Mets last season, has hit .262 with two home runs and 25 RBIs in 55 games with Triple-A Las Vegas in 2018.
New York also announced it will select the contract of utility man Ty Kelly, who has a .266 batting average in the minors this season, from Las Vegas and will designate catcher Jose Lobaton, who hit .152 with three RBIs in 19 games for the Mets, for assignment.
 
Moves makes sense. When you have exactly two MLB-ready prospects in your organization, and they play the same position, you can't have an underperforming veteran in the way. Would that there were similar pressure on all the other underperforming veterans on the team.

Why the Kelly hate? He can play any position and thus is a serviceable 25th man. Yeah I know he's not very good, but who on the Mets is?
I agree with you on Lugo and Kelly.
Not sure if the Gonzalez moves makes sense. Smith has not impressed so far. But just maybe if Smith plays every day, like Nimmo has, he will start to produce.
 
Not even missing glass legs Cespedes. They put up a stat last night about the Mets' record with and without Cespedes, and undeniably, in the past, he has added value. But he has been a big dud this year. Just leave Nimmo in and let him develop. At least Nimmo looks like he wants to be out there and he is a gamer. When Cespedes returns, put him in the locker room with Wright and they can massage each other.

2018 stats (Nimmo 144 ABs, Cespees 137 ABs):
Nimmo .271 AVG, 8 HR, .413 OBP .969 OPS
Cespedes .255 AVG 8HR .316 OBP .825 OPS
 
I don't know when the trade windows/deadlines are.

Trades can be made now, but they generally aren't made this early, as teams are still figuring things out. The non-waiver trade deadline is July 31 and that's when most in-season trades are made.

Trades can be made in August, but only if the players involved have cleared waivers. Some teams put their entire roster on waivers in July-August, just to see where the trade interest may be. (Waivers can be recalled, so there's no risk to this practice.)

IMO the de facto trade deadline is August 31. That's the last day to acquire a player and have him eligible for the postseason.
 
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Moves makes sense. When you have exactly two MLB-ready prospects in your organization, and they play the same position, you can't have an underperforming veteran in the way. Would that there were similar pressure on all the other underperforming veterans on the team.

Why the Kelly hate? He can play any position and thus is a serviceable 25th man. Yeah I know he's not very good, but who on the Mets is?

The Gonzalez move never made sense in the first place and not surprisingly it was a disaster. Smith should have been the opening day 1B the whole time.

Kelly hate because I don't know he sucks? Call up McNeil and see what you have there since he's already 26.
 
At this point, the real question to ask is: Will Tebow get playing time in Queens this year?

I wouldn't put a publicity stunt like that past the Mets.
 
I think the Mets will go into talks with the Yankees about deGrom to flush out more from any team in the AL that thinks it has a shot this season. This would be a win-win to me.
 
How so ? Smith can’t field Gonzalez can and smith is only hitting 260 in a band box in triple a with fewer homers than Gonzalez and Smith’s mlb batting average is under 200

Smith was still the better option coming into the year. All reports have Smith as a good to above average defensive 1B so don't give me that. As for his bat you gamble on that more than a 35 year old past his prime.

Look at Nimmo. They don't even realize what they have on their own farm and instead keep going with washed up retreads like Gonzalez, Reyes, Bautista, etc. Unfortunately we're locked into Bruce deal but you can even have him at 1B with Cespedes, Conforto, Nimmo, Lagares to begin the year. How can you even defend the Gonzalez move with how bad he looked?
 
Smith was still the better option coming into the year. All reports have Smith as a good to above average defensive 1B so don't give me that. As for his bat you gamble on that more than a 35 year old past his prime.

Look at Nimmo. They don't even realize what they have on their own farm and instead keep going with washed up retreads like Gonzalez, Reyes, Bautista, etc. Unfortunately we're locked into Bruce deal but you can even have him at 1B with Cespedes, Conforto, Nimmo, Lagares to begin the year. How can you even defend the Gonzalez move with how bad he looked?
Agree.
1. Move Bruce to 1B permanently. He is having a bad year in the outfield. Have seen several plays-weak throws to home, not calling off an infielder running into outfield and letting a guy tag from 3rd, missing fly balls, etc.
2. Keep Nimmo as an every day player. Conforto, Cespedes, and Nimmo in OF. Lagares is meh.
3. That frees up another position player--Mets can keep Reyes on the team!!! What a beauty of a play last night where he did not step on 2B and he threw it away a first. What should have been a routine double play and out of the inning wound up 2 on with one out.
 
Agree.
1. Move Bruce to 1B permanently. He is having a bad year in the outfield. Have seen several plays-weak throws to home, not calling off an infielder running into outfield and letting a guy tag from 3rd, missing fly balls, etc.
2. Keep Nimmo as an every day player. Conforto, Cespedes, and Nimmo in OF. Lagares is meh.
3. That frees up another position player--Mets can keep Reyes on the team!!! What a beauty of a play last night where he did not step on 2B and he threw it away a first. What should have been a routine double play and out of the inning wound up 2 on with one out.

I'd rather find a guy who can hit, as opposed to keeping Bruce in the lineup.
 
I'd rather find a guy who can hit, as opposed to keeping Bruce in the lineup.

Agreed but first year on a new deal so we need to play him and hope he busts out soon and in a big way.

As for Lagares I know he is hurt now so that's why I prefaced my earlier statement on how we could have begun the year. Once Ces is back whenever they need to roll with Bruce at 1B unless Smith shows he can hit here at this level.
 
The Gonzalez move never made sense in the first place and not surprisingly it was a disaster. Smith should have been the opening day 1B the whole time.

Kelly hate because I don't know he sucks? Call up McNeil and see what you have there since he's already 26.
Disaster ? He is prob better than smith
Cause you need to evaluate your young players. Unless you think he hit his ceiling as a 21-22 year old?
 
I'd rather find a guy who can hit, as opposed to keeping Bruce in the lineup.
You do know this is the Mets?
Lagares, Conlon, Wheeler, and Harvey lead the team in batting average. Holy smokes.

Everyday players (more than 100 at bats):
Cabrera .283
Nimmo .271
Cespedes (ahem) .255
Flores .248
Rosario .244
Frazier .239
Gonzalez .237
Bruce .218
Conforto .215

Bautista (35 AB) is batting .257

This is why I don't agree with the Gonzalez move with nothing more in moves. Let Wilmer play 1B (or maybe Bautista) with Nimmo, Conforto and Cespedes in the outfield.

We are forgetting about Jose Bautista.
 
Do you guys really think getting rid of Gonzalez is a bad move or you're trolling?

Not to be mean but if you think this is a bad move you know nothing of baseball these days.
 
Mets are pouring it on. Not sure why Braves pulled starting pitcher but I am not complaining.
 
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