Mark Vientos is having a good year in Rookie Ball........any reason why no fall ball for him?.....or is he too young?
OT: NY Mets Season
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Syracuse. The Mets purchased the franchise. They own it. No more revolving door of AAA afflilates when contracts expire.
I think that's it exactly. Keep in mind that AFL roster slots are extremely limited. There are only six AFL teams. Pretty much limited to AA and AAA players, and maybe some high level A, but not Rookie League.
There is a good reason why they won't. They don't want to start his arbitration and free agency clock. This is pretty much common practice nowadays.
I believe deGromm was primarily a shortstop in college which may have impacted time to big leagues. Also had Tommy John surgery.
I believe the Far East so it takes a full week to call someone up.
Freaking deGrom making his own offense. NL MVP.
I was way off on the second half of the season. Said they wouldn’t win 50 games when they were at 34. I just don’t understand them. They play like shit for about 3 months, and then start putting it together when they’re are out of it. Starting pitching has been unbelievable lately. I’m actually thinking callaway deserves another year. Thought he should’ve been fired in July, but team is playing well. Got some pieces to build around with McNeil, Nimmo, and Conforto. Hope they keep Austin Jackson as role player next season.
As a Rockies fan, I thought the Nimmo home run was beautiful tonight.
Callaway will definitely get another year although he has probably been as big of a disappointment as manager that I can remember. I had high hopes when he was hired but his decisions and laid-back mentality makes me wish for Collins - and I would have never thought I would have ever said that.
IMO, the Mets have had a terrible string of managers since Valentine with Jerry Manual and Callaway being the worst.
Why do you say that? In their Oct 2015 visit, the Mets played .600 ball. In this visit they are playing 1.000 ball. [winking]
Games like last night give a Mets fan a glimmer of hope for 2019.
McNeil, Nimmo, Rosario, and Flores are all hitting fairly well. If the Toddfather and Conforto could do even somewhat consistently, maybe the Mets could actually play above .600 and get a wild card spot.
Team batting average for June/July/Aug was .210, .219, .257, so they definitely had a good month in August, and let's hope that continues.
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McNeil, Nimmo, Rosario, and Flores are all hitting fairly well. If the Toddfather and Conforto could do even somewhat consistently, maybe the Mets could actually play above .600 and get a wild card spot.
Team batting average for June/July/Aug was .210, .219, .257, so they definitely had a good month in August, and let's hope that continues.
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I have no idea how to evaluate a manager. The easy way is to compare the team's actual performance against preseason expectations. Using that metric, Callaway does not fare well. But I suspect it's more complicated than that.
As far as his decision making - obviously it is foolish to point to any one decision where he went "against the book" (or "with the book") that didn't work out. However, over the course of a full season I agree that one should be able to review all decisions and see how he did on average. I am certainly not inclined to do that though. So I really don't know how well he's done. I will say that as a rookie manager he can be expected to improve.
"Laid back mentality"? Some of the greatest managers in the game have had that mentality. Joe Torre, Tony LaRussa, and Joe Maddon to name a few. Fans like to see the fire and brimstone from their team's manager, but it doesn't always work that way.
The one complaint I have with Callaway is that he came with the reputation of being a pitching guru, and I haven't seen it. Specifically, one of the reasons he was hired was to straighten out Matt Harvey, which did not happen.
But he did straighten out Matt Harvey. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
I still don't understand how this team can be so bad with the top 3 starting pitchers like they have. Just pathetic, heartless and no leadership on this team. They need a leader who won't accept losing with this type of starting pitching talent.
They've actually been a playing decent last full month plus. Think they're over .500 in that time.
Too many streaky players and still too many injuries. Conforto is hot now but perhaps he was rushed back after his injury. Cespedes is out more than he is in. There was no production in the outfield in May/June besides Nimmo.
3B was a hole. 1B was a hole. Catcher was a hole.
Will this change next season?
It could if the Mets thought like a NY team. Sign the Dodger catcher who I believe is a FA after the season. Sign Machado to play 3B. Trade Frazier or put him at 1B. Of course this requires spending money so it is a fantasy on my part.
They'll release Frazier with the expecttation that Wright can be what he once was, and try Bruce at 1B, d'Arnaud will be injured again, forcing Plawecki to be the full time catcher.
Same as it ever was
No way they tender d'Arnaud. Alonso should be permanent 1B by May next year. Bruce maybe they can trade for another bad salary at a more useful position. Wright can stay on bench if really healthy and shows he can still hit a little. My guess we do sign a starting C.
Name five players whom you think meet your definition of pathetic and heartless.
Elaborate please. Do you mean from a baseball sense? If so, maybe. I wouldn't mind the 1986 version of Dykstra and Backman at the top of the order. But keep in mind they were both platoon players. In this era of the 13 man pitching staff and 4 man bench, there's really not much room for platoon players.
Not sure Ray Knight offers anything more than Todd Frazier.
BUT... I don't think that their baseball talent is the primary driver of your post. I think it's that they showed "fire"! They threw helmets, broke water coolers, knocked over buffet tables, picked fights with opponents and teammates alike. I just don't see that type of player flourishing in today's game.
The Mets have absolutely no expectation that Wright can be what he once was. I believe that their primary concern with Wright is how to maximize the value of the insurance policy.
No chance that Mets will release Frazier and eat the remaining year in his contract. Zero point zero chance.
You are correct about trying Bruce at 1B, although eventually they will need to make room for Alonso.
To me the big question about the 2019 Mets is - how much does the new GM value defense? As we all know, defense has not been a Mets priority since forever. If the new GM is a pitching and defense guy, rather than a pitching and power guy, then:
- They either need to get a CF or give the job to Lagares.
- They have to think hard about whether Rosario, with his negative DWAR, is the long term answer at SS. Or does he move to 2B to make room for Gimenez?
- Must spend for a catcher.
Some stats on the current Mets:
1) To Rurahrah's point about the starting pitching, yes it is good but not great. Fifth in NL in ERA, seventh in BAA, third in WHIP. Remember you need five starters, not just three.
2) And then we get to the bullpen. The less said there the better. 14th in NL in bullpen ERA, 14th in BAA, 13th in WHIP. This can nullify the good work of the starter. It often has.
3) Now to the hitting. We knew they wouldn't hit for average and they have not. 13th in NL in BA. But we thought the power would be there, and it has not been. 11th in HRs and 12th in Slugging %. They do draw some walks but not as many as you may think - they're 7th. The result of all this is 12th in team OPS - not nearly good enough!
4) Dare we speak of defense? According to ESPN's calculation of DWAR (the methodologies vary), there are only five players who have a positive DWAR, and three of them are catchers! I can only assume that ESPN's calculation of catcher DWAR does not take into account throwing out base stealers, where the Mets are abysmal. The other two players with positive DWAR are Lagares (who has barely played) and Frazier (an underrated defender IMO). Everyone else, you could bring up some random minor leaguer and be better off. According to ESPN anyway.
So I conclude that the Mets problems are caused by the fact that they just aren't good enough. Nothing to do with heart, guts, or any other body parts.
1) To Rurahrah's point about the starting pitching, yes it is good but not great. Fifth in NL in ERA, seventh in BAA, third in WHIP. Remember you need five starters, not just three.
2) And then we get to the bullpen. The less said there the better. 14th in NL in bullpen ERA, 14th in BAA, 13th in WHIP. This can nullify the good work of the starter. It often has.
3) Now to the hitting. We knew they wouldn't hit for average and they have not. 13th in NL in BA. But we thought the power would be there, and it has not been. 11th in HRs and 12th in Slugging %. They do draw some walks but not as many as you may think - they're 7th. The result of all this is 12th in team OPS - not nearly good enough!
4) Dare we speak of defense? According to ESPN's calculation of DWAR (the methodologies vary), there are only five players who have a positive DWAR, and three of them are catchers! I can only assume that ESPN's calculation of catcher DWAR does not take into account throwing out base stealers, where the Mets are abysmal. The other two players with positive DWAR are Lagares (who has barely played) and Frazier (an underrated defender IMO). Everyone else, you could bring up some random minor leaguer and be better off. According to ESPN anyway.
So I conclude that the Mets problems are caused by the fact that they just aren't good enough. Nothing to do with heart, guts, or any other body parts.
How would you rate the 1999 infield for the Mets?
1B John Olerud
2B Edgardo Alfonzo
SS Rey Ordonez
3B Robin Ventured
If you're using the same metrics for the three current catchers, then Mike Piazza is a stud defensively. [roll][roll][roll]
Every one of those players was good offensively too except Rey Ordonez, but you could get away with it.
That 1999 Met infield was insanely good. That team only conceded 20 unearned runs all year! Fewest in MLB history by a wide margin.
Buster Olney ranked that infield as the third best ever, behind only the 2009 Yankees and the 1976 Big Red Machine.
You know damm well they're not going after Machado or trading Frazier/Bruce.
Did you catch any of Lenny's appearances on Howard Stern?
Creepy.
He was a baller in his prime.
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