OT- OFFICIAL 2017 YANKEES SEASON THREAD
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I thought they said on one of the Yankees broadcasts that Gleyber was playing three days at shortstop, two days at second base, and two days at third at AAA.
I can't see him playing over Gregorius or Castro.....so 3rd looks like the spot to me.
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Wins aren't a good barometer of a starting pitcher. He gets 20 wins with a 6+ ERA and they'll be praying that he opts out.
Right now Keuchel and Kershaw lead their respective leagues in wins. Looks like a good barometer of how good those two are.
You play the game to win !
If Tanaka wins 20 games I'll bet the Yankees will be very happy.
Still think Judge can't play the field? Since the Mets are beginning to mail it in maybe you should actually watch Judge play right field. You might learn something, like you were completely clueless
And it was an actually a diving catch, where his feet left the ground before catching the ball. Not one of those plays where the outfielder over exaggerates and dives to the ground AFTER the ball is in his glove.
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1st - Bird
2nd - Castro
SS - Didi
3rd - Torres
C - Sanchez
OF - Judge, Frazier, Hicks
Bullpen is solid. Now let's find some starting pitchers!
C'mon, I'm a Yankee diehard, but your argument is silly. Keuchel and Kershaw are great pitchers AND are in the top 20 in run support. Tanaka is #5. Of course a pitcher with great run support is going to win games. But give me ERA, WHIP, K/BB and about 10 other pitching stats before I even look at wins. Give me frequent rumored trade target Gerrit Cole, or former Yank Ivan Nova with their low ERA/WHIP and high SO to BB ratio with the 6 runs of support Tanaka gets, and their line looks an awful lot like Keuchel and Kershaw. Put Tanaka on the Pirates and he looks like Matt Harvey.
I think it is somewhere in between. Wins are sometimes overrated sometimes not. You pitch differently with a big lead. You will groove one 3-1 leading off an inning because you don't want to walk anyone and a solo homerun doesn't hurt you. Things like that. Having said that you can just use your eyes here. Tanaka is not pitching well regardless of score. So in this case wins are irrelevant.
Still think Judge can't play the field? Since the Mets are beginning to mail it in maybe you should actually watch Judge play right field. You might learn something, like you were completely clueless
Easy dont get too giddy, it was a nice catch period. Mets took 2 of 3 from trout
I love Judge, but I think that's a little much. He hasn't even played a full season yet. Yanks jumped the gun on this one.
Like I said if Tanaka has a 6+ ERA with 20 wins they'll pray that he opts out. Wins are a team stat that pitchers get credit for.
Hansel Robles has 4 wins, wanna trade Betances for him?
Its not for sale currently. They are inviting people and their friends who are wearing 99 jersey. Right now I have no problem. If the Yankees start charging big bucks for it I agree. But its a fun season so far. Have fun with it!
Who exactly is talking about relief pitchers ?
Winning 20 games in MLB is very impressive for any starting pitcher. Sure, some guys get more run support than others. But, as a previous poster pointed out, one is likely to pitch very differently with a team that scores lots of runs than with a team that has trouble scoring much. Listen, I think ERA is a very important stat. But I'd like to see a guy win 20 games with a 6+ ERA. When has THAT ever happened ?
And if Tanaka wins 20, the Yankees will gladly welcome him back for 2018.
Never, and never will. Bobo Newsom of the St. Louis Browns was 23-7 with a 5.08 ERA in '38. Modern era, Rick Helling, '98 Texas Rangers was 20-7 with a 4.41 ERA. There are less than 20 pitchers all-time with +4 ERAs and 20 wins.
If Torres tears it up at Triple A, there's absolutely no reason he can't be called up. He certainly can't be more inconsistent than Headley and they wouldn't have to throw tons of young kids to pick up Donaldson which is something I saw rumored out there.
My point is that wins are not a great stat to evaluate pitchers. Obviously you think they're massively important. Tanaka with a 6 ERA is awful, I don't care how many wins he gets. I used Robles as a ridiculous example that wins aren't important. It seems to have gone over your head.
Yanks will win tonight, Judge to hit a few bombs.
Yanks drew 11k more fans than the Mets last night.
Yanks drew 11k more fans than the Mets last night.
No need for that, but just more proof that the Yanks are far more popular and have many more fans than the Mets
Well it's the rejuvenated world renowned New York Yankees vs the struggling stepchild New York Mets. Of course there's more Yankee fans no matter what... DUHHHHH!!!! All those reports, articles, etc saying that the Mets was taking over NY was always assinine. I have my reasons that I will always bleed orange and Blue. But the Yankees are always the Yankees.
Nice win tonight.
If Severino and Pineda continue to provide quality starts this team is gonna be tough to beat.
Now if the Yankees only had a better option at third base. The guy is brutal.
If Severino and Pineda continue to provide quality starts this team is gonna be tough to beat.
Now if the Yankees only had a better option at third base. The guy is brutal.
Big win tonight. The bats came alive....finally.
And Severino was clutch.
But what ever hapened to Manny Machado's bat ?
Machado is absolutely killing my fantasy team this year. He still has a lot of home runs but his batting average is horrible.
My kind of game tonight. Good pitching from CC, Sanchez with 2 homers, Hicks with 6 RBIs.
BTW, who would have thought that Tanaka would be the weak link in the rotation ?
As I said before, the Tanaka situation is VERY interesting to me. If he continues to tank the season, it's very possible he will not opt out of the rest of a guaranteed contract. If he has no structural issue with his elbow, it will be a huge gamble to give up I believe 3-4 more years after a crap season.
Hopefully, he gets it together though because if he does, it could be a fun summer in the Bronx.
Hopefully, he gets it together though because if he does, it could be a fun summer in the Bronx.
Oh and the Yankees are virtually guaranteed to do some buying at the deadline as they are losing a bunch of kids to the Rule 5 draft if they don't. I would expect them to put some packages together to either get another starter or at the very least some bullpen depth. If Torres isn't ready, I could see them go after a veteran 3B too.
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