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OT: Penn State maybe not so BIG in the future.

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Local Media reporting that Penn State University president stated that Penn State currently has 20 Branch Campuses distributed throughout Pennsylvania.

He says Penn State potentially may have to close 12 Branch Campuses due to dropping student body. He identified 8 branch campuses as safe from closure.

Whatever the final decision, no Penn State branch campuses will close until the end of 2026-2027 school year.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
OTTOMH, the following ones were most well known:
Berks
Hazelton
Altoona

Hershey has the hospital but not sure of campus

Buddy went to Mt. Alto and Lehigh Valley isn't far from the NJ state line
Didnt know they had that many, but cult gonna cult
 
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That seems to be one of the reasons why the SEC is planning a push for UNC when they become available. Someone from NC is more likely to look at an SEC school if they are targeting a certain state just because UNC belongs to it.

Smaller and/or private and/or secondary/tertiary schools and satellite campuses will be hurt first in their respective states.
 
OTTOMH, the following ones were most well known:
Berks
Hazelton
Altoona

Hershey has the hospital but not sure of campus

Buddy went to Mt. Alto and Lehigh Valley isn't far from the NJ state line
Didnt know they had that many, but cult gonna cult
Hershey does not have a campus and curriculum separate from the hospital. And, Lehigh Valley is a little closer to NJ, but I would bet Hazleton gets more NJ students because they have on campus housing. LV does not.

A word of advice to my RU friends….never get Penn State news from a Pitt boy. There are errors in 2 of his 3 short paragraphs. Sheesh.
 
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Local Media reporting that Penn State University president stated that Penn State currently has 20 Branch Campuses distributed throughout Pennsylvania.

He says Penn State potentially may have to close 12 Branch Campuses due to dropping student body. He identified 8 branch campuses as safe from closure.

Whatever the final decision, no Penn State branch campuses will close until the end of 2026-2027 school year.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
I read previous that attendance for the satellite campuses had problems and needed closing.
 
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Couldn’t care less about PSU.

But are RU-Newark and RU-Camden good?
Any concerns with them closing or in trouble?
Haven’t seen anything but just a general question considering the overall tone of smaller college struggling all over.
 
That seems to be one of the reasons why the SEC is planning a push for UNC when they become available. Someone from NC is more likely to look at an SEC school if they are targeting a certain state just because UNC belongs to it.

Smaller and/or private and/or secondary/tertiary schools and satellite campuses will be hurt first in their respective states.

They are a more logical fit for B1G especially with UVA. We basically have all the most prestigious public schools. SEC has UF, UGA, and Texas.
 
Local Media reporting that Penn State University president stated that Penn State currently has 20 Branch Campuses distributed throughout Pennsylvania.

He says Penn State potentially may have to close 12 Branch Campuses due to dropping student body. He identified 8 branch campuses as safe from closure.

Whatever the final decision, no Penn State branch campuses will close until the end of 2026-2027 school year.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!


Does Pitt still have a team?
 
I read previous that attendance for the satellite campuses had problems and needed closing.


The bottom 6 campuses have less than 400 students each. Not really a loss for psu since they can cut costs and in theory absorb those students at the next closest campus.
 
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Couldn’t care less about PSU.

But are RU-Newark and RU-Camden good?
Any concerns with them closing or in trouble?
Haven’t seen anything but just a general question considering the overall tone of smaller college struggling all over.
I think you will see smaller/private NJ colleges close, which will actually help RU-N and RU-C with enrollment.
 
So a couple of community colleges named Penn State …. Are closing. And we care why?
 
I didn't think this post was going to go over well when I saw it earlier, ha ha...
 
This is way over due. Not including community colleges Pennsylvania has over 50+ campuses some just minutes apart. If they closed the 12 smallest Penn State branch campuses it 3,800 students total. It crazy to operate 12 complete campuses for 3800 students that are smaller then most high schools. The campuses range in size from 309 to 827 students.
 
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This one isn’t major news. I moved out the Pittsburgh 8 years ago and there are two tiny satellite Penn state campuses out here. I’m talking like a single building with 400 students. These are almost like community colleges. It’s these that shouldn’t even exists that are probably going away.

A bunch of other schools in PA also merged to save on costs. I think bloomsburg and a few others.

Main campus Penn state, Pitt and Carnegie Mellon are crushing it. It’s the other smaller campuses not doing well.
 
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This is way over due. No including community colleges Pennsylvania has over 50+ campuses some just minutes apart. If they closed the 12 smallest Penn State branch campuses it 3,800 students total. It crazy to operate 12 complete campuses for 3800 students that are smaller then most high schools. The campuses range in size from 309 to 827 students.

Gotta be waaay more than 50. Psu alone has over 20. Psshe is over a dozen.
 
I think you will see smaller/private NJ colleges close, which will actually help RU-N and RU-C with enrollment.
Hopefully some of them merge before closing. Give the existing students a place to attend to finish their degree. A merger can benefit all. These school needs to figure out a way to make a degree more affordable.
 
Looked at Wikipedia just out of curiosity. I stopped counting at 125.
I was just counting the state owned or state related 4 year colleges. I didn't even count the public community colleges.
 
The trend in higher education is that smaller regional schools are struggling and state flagships are thriving. In Pennsylvania the regional universities (formerly teachers colleges) are consolidating. Penn State's main campus will be fine and it looks like they'll invest in their 7 largest branch campus. It's also why some of the larger southern schools (discussed in another thread) are doing well.


The issue is simple demographics. Pennsylvania is no longer growing while the South is growing.

Florida went from 2 million residents to 22 million while Pennsylvania went from 11 million to 12 million. The rural areas of Pennsylvania are actually losing population.

You are also going to see a few PaSSHE schools close. Cheyney should have closed decades ago. They would be gone if they were not a HCBU. I would guess Clarion and Mansfield or Loch Haven are on the chopping blocks too.
 
This is way over due. Not including community colleges Pennsylvania has over 50+ campuses some just minutes apart. If they closed the 12 smallest Penn State branch campuses it 3,800 students total. It crazy to operate 12 complete campuses for 3800 students that are smaller then most high schools. The campuses range in size from 309 to 827 students.

What does "campus" mean though?
Especially at the smaller end.

Are some these campuses just a single building? They don't all have their own infrastructure and administration do they?
 
The issue is simple demographics. Pennsylvania is no longer growing while the South is growing.

Florida went from 2 million residents to 22 million while Pennsylvania went from 11 million to 12 million. The rural areas of Pennsylvania are actually losing population.
Population is part of it, but even in the states that are growing, flagships are growing at a greater rate than regionals and non-elite privates.
 
What does "campus" mean though?
Especially at the smaller end.

Are some these campuses just a single building? They don't all have their own infrastructure and administration do they?
They are campuses. Take the Shenango Campus for 321 students and has 10 buildings. The Greater Allegheny Campus is on 59 acres for 396 students. Some are just one or two buildings but many of them are full blown campuses. They all operate under a bigger umbrella but I am sure there is a lot of duplication of services.

The Shenango campus consists of ten educational and support buildings including:

Sharon Hall (built 1928): The primary classroom and office building on campus houses administration, faculty offices, computer labs, classroom space, and the Great Hall student center.

Lecture Hall (built 1904): Includes campus admissions and financial aid offices, classroom space, and faculty offices. A glass atrium connecting Sharon and Lecture halls was constructed in 2006.

Science Building (built 1968): Includes faculty offices and science classrooms. This building is now considered a section of the Forker Laboratory building as part of a $8.5 million renovation that was completed in 2021.

Forker Laboratory (built 1972): Science labs, classroom space, and the Forum, a large classroom used for lectures and events is located here. The Physical Therapy Assistant program is housed on the second floor. An $8.5 million renovation, which included a new HVAC system, science equipment upgrades, and the addition of Engineering and Physics equipment, was completed in 2021.

Chadderton Laboratory: The former headquarters of the local television cable company, this building was renovated in 2013 and houses the Occupational Therapy Assistant program, including office, classroom, and laboratory spaces.

McDowell Hall: Houses the campus bookstore, Human Development and Family Studies, Administration of Justice, and Administration of Justice Crime Lab.

Lartz Memorial Library: Originally housing a commercial laundry, and then a local steelworkers union hall, the Library was renovated in 1996 and houses the campus library collections, study areas, a classroom, and the Media Commons.

B&B Building: Another former office building that is currently used for storage. Prior to storage, this building was home to the Physical Therapy Assistant program and Ag Extension office.

Penn State Theatre (Auditorium) (built 1928): The former Auditorium of the Sharon Central School District, now used for large gatherings including commencement, concerts, and the Penn State Lecture Series. A multi-phase renovation project began in 2008.
Maintenance Building: Houses campus maintenance department and services.
 
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What does "campus" mean though?
Especially at the smaller end.

Are some these campuses just a single building? They don't all have their own infrastructure and administration do they?
It varies. I have been to a few. None with just one building. They have dorms, bookstores, class buildings, athletic depts, d2 sports.

This is a good move for psu. It is just cutting out some waste.

I expect some of the pa state schools to close too. Probably cheyney, clarion and Mansfield.
 
The closing of these branch campuses will be a financial blow to the local communities.

The branch campuses provided good paying jobs to the community and Penn State was in your backyard.

Pennsylvania for years reduced funding to the state related universities and a lot of support not to raise funding came from these local communities which will now be negatively impacted. In the past Pennsylvania support to in- state student tuition reduction was about 35% now it is about 9%. Its not a surprise that Pa tuition is one of the highest in the US for state related universities.

The closure of colleges and universities across the country is just getting started and will continue for the next 15 years because of the "Baby Bust" generation. Less students graduating from HS and less graduating students wanting to go to college (only 62%).

Private liberal arts schools will probably be the hardest hit.

Example Pittsburgh Public Schools have facilities to educate 40,000 students but will only has 18,000 students. Result 14 school buildings will be closing.

Pa State University schools have been consolidated to 10 from 14 with Penn West and Penn East formation.

Pitt student body will be maintained because the university attracts students both internationally and from all of the country.
In fact when the Eagles won the won the Super Bowl the Pitt students held a rally at Pitt celebrating the victory. Why? Many Pitt students come from eastern Pa and the Philadelphia area.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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Pitt student body will be maintained because the university attracts students both internationally and from all of the country.
In fact when the Eagles won the won the Super Bowl the Pitt students held a rally at Pitt celebrating the victory. Why? Many Pitt students come from eastern Pa and the Philadelphia area.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

What you just noted is what fans tell themselves on why their school is safe.

My guess is most Big 10 Schools and Non-Southern/Non-Private ACC schools probably have a higher percentage of international students than Pittsburgh does.

Not saying Pitt is in dire straights, but my guess is more schools that you consider yourself as peers are in a better position given what you were touting. Pitt likely has other things that will attract students that might put it in a better position than lets say Syracuse and Clemson......... but definitely not in better position than RU, PSU, UVA, UNC, Indiana etc....
 
Psu should have done this ages ago. It's a wasteful organization and needed a good trimming. Higher ed is in tenuous straights particularly with Trump in office.
 
What you just noted is what fans tell themselves on why their school is safe.

My guess is most Big 10 Schools and Non-Southern/Non-Private ACC schools probably have a higher percentage of international students than Pittsburgh does.

Not saying Pitt is in dire straights, but my guess is more schools that you consider yourself as peers are in a better position given what you were touting. Pitt likely has other things that will attract students that might put it in a better position than lets say Syracuse and Clemson......... but definitely not in better position than RU, PSU, UVA, UNC, Indiana etc....

Globally Pitt is recognized as an outstanding University when compared to its peers both Nationally and Internationally.

US News "Best Global University Rankings 2024-2025" (some of Pitt peers listed below):

University of North Carolina #47
University of Pittsburgh #50
Ohio State University #61
University of Minnesota #63
University of Maryland #72
University of Wisconsin #74
Penn State University #96
University of Illinois #100
Michigan State University #123
University of Virginia #125

US News "Americas Best Graduate Schools" 2025 has Pitt highly ranked in many areas.

As an example ALL of Pitt's Health Professions (Medicine, Dental, Pharmacy, Nursing, PT, OT etc) have been ranked in the Top 20 by the US News publication. In fact if one compares Pitt Medical School Student Admissions GPA and MCAT Scores, they are similar to the University of Pennsylvania Medical School Admits.

Unlike most B1G schools Pitt is a smaller school with about 23,000 undergrads and 10,000 grad students.

I think Pitt will be able to maintain its student body numbers when the Baby Bust Generation hits.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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Globally Pitt is recognized as an outstanding University when compared to its peers both Nationally and Internationally.

US News "Best Global University Rankings 2024-2025" (some of Pitt peers listing below):

University of North Carolina #47
University of Pittsburgh #50
Ohio State University #61
University of Minnesota #63
University of Maryland #72
University of Wisconsin #74
Penn State University #96
University of Illinois #100
Michigan State University #123
University of Virginia #125

US News "Americas Best Graduate Schools" has Pitt highly ranked in many areas.

As an example ALL of Pitt's Health Professions (Medicine, Dental, Pharmacy, Nursing, PT, OT etc) have been ranked in the Top 20 by the US News publication. In fact if one compares Pitt Medical School Student Admissions GPA and MCAT Scores, they are similar to the University of Pennsylvania Medical School Admits.

Unlike most B1G schools Pitt is a smaller school with about 23,000 undergrads and 10,000 grad students.

I think Pitt will be able to maintain its student body numbers when the Baby Bust Generation hits.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Maybe you didn’t hear the first time…

Why is a Pitt fan on a Rutgers board talking about Penn State?

You wanna talk about some SERIOUS little brother syndrome…
 
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Maybe you didn’t hear the first time…

Why is a Pitt fan on a Rutgers board talking about Penn State?

You wanna talk about some SERIOUS little brother syndrome…
LOL!!!!!!!!!

Maybe you have the little brother syndrome in defending B1G Brother Penn State on the Rutgers Board.

Anyone can post content, if you don't like the OT topic you don't have to respond.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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