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OT: QB Bryce Underwood flips to Mich for 10.5M

Would be hilarious if he crashes and burns as a college QB. Kid cashes in and Michigan donors are left holding the bag for a $10.5 million backup QB.
Yup. Ridiculous to throw this type of money at completely unproven talent. You can see it a little with the pros as there is a track record in college and info from the combine, but we’re in crazy territory now.
 
One of his current HS coaches? The one, the only, Michigan sign stealer: Connor Stallions.

Did Portnoy come up with the $10M for this?
Connor's last name has one "l" Stalions--easy way to remember-- same way "stolen" as in stolen signs is spelled--one l.
Don't understand why @rutgersal continues to post eye candy on a Rutgers recruiting site about other teams and their victories.
 
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I may be wrong but isn’t that amount higher than all of Rutgers assistant coaches salaries & support staff budget for 2024 .
 
But maybe the 4th string center wants to have a football camp in his hometown and make some cash while growing the game??? At least that’s what Geo said as justification for NIL.
Median total NIL for a college athlete is under $1000. You are looking at skewed data when you only look at the top elite players. There are just under 19,000 division 1 football players. Yes a very, VERY, small amount of kids are going to make insane money, but the majority are going to only make a few thousand dollars.
 
Median total NIL for a college athlete is under $1000. You are looking at skewed data when you only look at the top elite players. There are just under 19,000 division 1 football players. Yes a very, VERY, small amount of kids are going to make insane money, but the majority are going to only make a few thousand dollars.
With schools paying players, most likely starting next year, I think that might go up but I agree with your general point.
 
One of his current HS coaches? The one, the only, Michigan sign stealer: Connor Stallions.

Did Portnoy come up with the $10M for this?
I think Dave Portnoy was on record that he would give $3 million towards getting a "good" QB for Michigan.

After seeing that Portnoy Video, I don't think I have ever wanted to see a player crash and burn more!
 
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Would be hilarious if he crashes and burns as a college QB. Kid cashes in and Michigan donors are left holding the bag for a $10.5 million backup QB.
No way to know how these things turn out. Malachi Nelson was a top rated recruit too, followed Riley and changed his commitment to USC from OU and now he's a back up at Boise.

Maybe this qb succeeds at Michigan, maybe he transfers somewhere and does well there or maybe he doesn't work out, who knows. Look at the path DJU went on. Not so hot at Clemson, solid at Oregon St and lousy at FSU.
 
No way to know how these things turn out. Malachi Nelson was a top rated recruit too, followed Riley and changed his commitment to USC from OU and now he's a back up at Boise.

Maybe this qb succeeds at Michigan, maybe he transfers somewhere and does well there or maybe he doesn't work out, who knows. Look at the path DJU went on. Not so hot at Clemson, solid at Oregon St and lousy at FSU.
I missed why DJU didn't follow Jonathan Smith to Michigan State, hope he and Norvell are best buddies! But the last quote sort of begs the question- why not stay with the ones you are with?


"Florida State's offense plays to my strengths," Uiagalelei told ESPN shortly after his commitment. "They push the ball down the field. They're going to take deep shots. They have playmakers all around there. Coach Norvell does an unbelievable job scheming for opponents. He's a guy that's a smart football mind."

The Seminoles also got an assist from their quarterback at the time, Jordan Travis, who had transferred into the program himself and blossomed, offering him a unique and persuasive perspective when talking with Uiagalelei. Specifically, a story about the way the coaches reacted to a three-game losing streak in 2022 resonated with the Oregon State transfer.

"They asked, 'How are you doing as a person?' They said, 'I'm here for you, not just as a coach, but also as a friend,’” Uiagalelei said to ESPN. “That's something that I value and had at Oregon State with Coach Smith and Coach (Brian) Lindgren. ... Obviously they are about the right stuff
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Median total NIL for a college athlete is under $1000. You are looking at skewed data when you only look at the top elite players. There are just under 19,000 division 1 football players. Yes a very, VERY, small amount of kids are going to make insane money, but the majority are going to only make a few thousand dollars.

Power 5 is around $10k


I understand your point though - not worth turning this into a debate about the merits of NIL (though I guess I already opened that door lol).
 
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Oh my... does this actually provide an incentive to commit to a big time program to negotiate a better NIL deal from a team you might prefer?

Probably not what happened here.. but does this example show it would be a reasonable thing to try?

Think of this case.. when Bryce was first making his choice of LSU, surely there were NIL offers from both Michigan and LSU. In that process, surely he got Michigan's best offer at the time.. he could have taken it. Perhaps he wanted to take it.. but LSU offered more. Maybe Michigan knew he wanted to choose them and they put a value on that in their NIL offer making it lower for that reason.

But choosing LSU caused Michigan to rethink it all and gather enough support for a new pricey offer.

I wonder if other recruits and their advisors and agents will consider making such moves.

I wonder if flipping on commitments is going to become very commonplace among top recruits.
 
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SMU got a "death sentence" and was irrelevant for two decades as a result of this sort of thing. Now it's totally legal. Were we at as a society ? You guys enjoy but I'm out
Yes, adding the extra zeros and the “legality” of this is new. And yes, it’s a bit shocking. And yes, the hypocrisy of the old SMU situation compared to now is eye-rolling (although I would say totally expected). But, TBH, as shocking and unsettling as it is, that stuff is noise. All noise. Look for the signals. The outcomes, which are really the most important thing, are exactly, EXACTLY, the same.

This kid was always going to a power school. And he was always going to get paid. And, yes, UM was always going to get away with stuff as opposed to schools outside the club.

What will be more interesting to watch is if/when a non power gets an angel and buys a championship. Then, the fun really start, lol. If that happens, you will see more rules. But, like all rules, they will be made by the powers. And they will mostly benefit the powers. However, I am way more morbidly curious to see the public’s reaction to that disgusting display of wealth and power. As if 60 years of 20+ teams making 90% of the money and winning 90% of the games is not due to those same behaviors.
 
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If that kind of money would guarantee that he will never throw an interception, complete every pass, never get injured, and win the national championship, then yes, it would be worth it. Otherwise, even if the kid is Joe Montana, it's fool's gold.
 
If that kind of money would guarantee that he will never throw an interception, complete every pass, never get injured, and win the national championship, then yes, it would be worth it. Otherwise, even if the kid is Joe Montana, it's fool's gold.
Miami spent $2M on Kam Ward, who is worth every penny. With him, they are a playoff team. Without him, they are also rans.
 
Yes, adding the extra zeros and the “legality” of this is new. And yes, it’s a bit shocking. And yes, the hypocrisy of the old SMU situation compared to now is eye-rolling (although I would say totally expected). But, TBH, as shocking and unsettling as it is, that stuff is noise. All noise. Look for the signals. The outcomes, which are really the most important thing, are exactly, EXACTLY, the same.

This kid was always going to a power school. And he was always going to get paid. And, yes, UM was always going to get away with stuff as opposed to schools outside the club.

What will be more interesting to watch is if/when a non power gets an angel and buys a championship. Then, the fun really start, lol. If that happens, you will see more rules. But, like all rules, they will be made by the powers. And they will mostly benefit the powers. However, I am way more morbidly curious to see the public’s reaction to that disgusting display of wealth and power. As if 60 years of 20+ teams making 90% of the money and winning 90% of the games is not due those same behaviors.
If some rich donors bought a championship for RU (or any non blueblood school), you can bet that there would be rules, and they would use the rules to kneecap said school just like they did to SMU. If Indiana runs the table, you might see it start. Senator Tommy Tuberville is already grumbling about Indiana "buying themselves a team." Ironic comment from someone who coached at Auburn.
 
If some rich donors bought a championship for RU (or any non blueblood school), you can bet that there would be rules, and they would use the rules to kneecap said school just like they did to SMU. If Indiana runs the table, you might see it start. Senator Tommy Tuberville is already grumbling about Indiana "buying themselves a team." Ironic comment from someone who coached at Auburn.

That's the point many have made about NIL - it does allow for any team to "buy" a team.

Under the prior model, only the schools in the SEC willing to cheat could "buy" themselves a team. Now the opportunity is at least possible for anyone.
 
Michigan has TWO Fieldhouses. An excellent Main, which is the best money can buy, and an Auxiliary, which is also used for Tailgating.
This whole thing is disgusting.
And let me guess you think Rutgers should get two to keep up since that one Maryland had and was their competitive advantage over us you were shouting about just didn't work out for you or them last weekend.
 
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