Good for you I’m taking today off. 5- 6 days per week on the track is wrecking to an old body. Just some lite weights today. Sorry but at almost 71 there is a difference . Not everyday is a track day. The masks are a personal choice. Most at the track or streets don’t wear masks. The funniest though is still seeing people alone, driving their cars wearing what else? A mask...😊👌🙏
OT: Vaccine
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Yea, nah, I'll take a hard pass, thank you very much.https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/16/norway-warns-possible-covid-19-vaccine-risks-frail/
The problem right now is supply. NJ’s department of health on Friday said they can handle 4x’s of what they are currently doing.
By almost everyone getting the vaccine:
Will it allow us to unmask?
To hug our parents ?
Does it guarantee immunity?
Schools will reopen?
We won't have to lockdown anything, anyone or anywhere?
We can dine inside restaurants or go to the movies without restrictions?
We can stop disinfecting stuff?
52k+ can pack into SHI Stadium in September ?
Yankee Stadium can be sold out for Old Timers Day?
Social distancing will be unnecessary?
This vaccine definitely won't kill any of us?
If the answer is no to any of those, then why the heck do we need to take the vaccine?
Will it allow us to unmask?
To hug our parents ?
Does it guarantee immunity?
Schools will reopen?
We won't have to lockdown anything, anyone or anywhere?
We can dine inside restaurants or go to the movies without restrictions?
We can stop disinfecting stuff?
52k+ can pack into SHI Stadium in September ?
Yankee Stadium can be sold out for Old Timers Day?
Social distancing will be unnecessary?
This vaccine definitely won't kill any of us?
If the answer is no to any of those, then why the heck do we need to take the vaccine?
Nothing serious, but up the mountain with the dog. Was supposed to be staying in a treehouse cabin in Zion NP this weekend for some really nice hiking/biking but had to postpone because need to update dog's shots and couldn't get the appointment until next week.
Most of my hiking this time of year comes from hiking up the ridge line for stashed powder to snowboard ...but it needs to actually snow for that to work. All bunny hill today, anyway ...teaching the kids.
Very good response ! Now i feel bad because I was trying to suck you into responding ( which I did ) and say watch out for low branches so you don't bump your head. Oh well , but a great activity to do with the kids. I do it once in a while with my son.
Impossible
I just saw a commercial sponsored by NY Gov
"Vaccines: Safe, Free, Easy "
I got the Moderna vaccine.
I didn’t die. Just giving my firsthand experience. Not dead yet.
I didn’t die. Just giving my firsthand experience. Not dead yet.
Oh yes it is a future problem. You will
see that come to fruition if and when the vaccine supplies are available to all who want the vaccine. I’m not here to argue just to let you know I was one of those who were somewhat skeptical in how phase 1 would turn out. Well it’s a shit show and I don’t think it will be improving in the next several weeks. With all the panic going on over possible civil unrest that will also impact the distribution . All you had to do is read NJ.com today.
The article was not written by NJ.com . It was an insert article but was mentioned . Perischelli made mention of the possibility but the state is hoping not to have an issue with having staff that is trained.
If this is true how can people be called selfish for being skeptical (and wanting to wait) about getting the vaccine? I am hoping this is not true and the vaccine kicks covids ass.
When we have the chance to make fun of NJ.com...we make fun of NJ.com. 😉
Are you old and on your deathbed? Will minor side effects like nausea kill you? If you answered no, time to grow a sack.
I’ve also not seen the 52 number anywhere. So just more fake and misleading news. Nothing to see here.
So just assume it’s fake not not look into it. That would seem kinda dumb. But it is you saying this so I can understand it. Getting the vaccine is now about having a sack. Don’t question or research anything.
No I understand just there are some who think everything is going to be good by summer. Wish that were true but we are not doing well with this.
Have your feelings of Bill Gates changed, do you somehow like him better?
Also, it would help the the one world government if you would walk up and down the street a few times, the tracking satellite is having trouble getting a fix and it needs to be recalibrated.
Way to sensationalize this story. Show one scientific source that says there were deaths known to be "due to" the vaccine. Deaths in very old and very frail people are certainly a concern and should be investigated, but it's just as likely that these deaths were coincidental, as per the BMJ article below. There was no indication in the elderly in the clinical trials that the vaccines would be dangerous to any of these people. As per the post below (and the Derek Lowe blog excerpt/link), it was predicted that some unscrupulous media types/anti-vaxxers, like yourself, would start spewing this kind of crap and now we're seeing it. I'm sure you'll bring more such posts to these threads in an attempt to scare people.
“It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar Madsen, medical director of the Norwegian Medicines Agency (NOMA), told The BMJ. “There is no certain connection between these deaths and the vaccine.”
The agency has investigated 13 of the deaths so far and concluded that common adverse reactions of mRNA vaccines, such as fever, nausea, and diarrhoea, may have contributed to fatal outcomes in some of the frail patients.
“There is a possibility that these common adverse reactions, that are not dangerous in fitter, younger patients and are not unusual with vaccines, may aggravate underlying disease in the elderly,” Madsen said. “We are not alarmed or worried about this, because these are very rare occurrences and they occurred in very frail patients with very serious disease,” he emphasised. “We are now asking for doctors to continue with the vaccination, but to carry out extra evaluation of very sick people whose underlying condition might be aggravated by it.” This evaluation includes discussing the risks and benefits of vaccination with the patient and their families to decide whether or not vaccination is the best course.
https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149
Question and research.....I have done a good amount of that. Have you, or do you believe anything you read on the internet? You seem to only comment on fake news.
There is a huge antivaxxer campaign hitting this country, likely from Russia. There was a video of a “nurse who got Bell’s palsy from the vaccine” a week or so ago. That made the rounds on social media. A lot more of this garbage is happening too, and guess who’s falling for it???
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From NYT:
"After at least 33 nursing home residents died after their vaccinations, Norwegian health authorities on Sunday emphasized that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is safe and said that the deaths may have been largely unrelated.
Those who died were very ill; some were terminal patients, not expected to live longer than weeks or months."
www.nytimes.com
Quick question, why are they vaccinating people who only have a week to live?
"After at least 33 nursing home residents died after their vaccinations, Norwegian health authorities on Sunday emphasized that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is safe and said that the deaths may have been largely unrelated.
Those who died were very ill; some were terminal patients, not expected to live longer than weeks or months."
Covid-19: California Confronts New Variants as Virus Deaths Climb (Published 2021)
An incoming Biden administration official warns the United States will pass 500,000 deaths. Officials in Norway say vaccines are safe after at least 33 very ill nursing home residents who were inoculated died.
Quick question, why are they vaccinating people who only have a week to live?
From NYT:
"After at least 33 nursing home residents died after their vaccinations, Norwegian health authorities on Sunday emphasized that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is safe and said that the deaths may have been largely unrelated.
Those who died were very ill; some were terminal patients, not expected to live longer than weeks or months."
Covid-19: California Confronts New Variants as Virus Deaths Climb (Published 2021)
An incoming Biden administration official warns the United States will pass 500,000 deaths. Officials in Norway say vaccines are safe after at least 33 very ill nursing home residents who were inoculated died.
Quick question, why are they vaccinating people who only have a week to live?
Because that's not what it said?
So when vaccine deaths are dismissed because of underlying conditions but COVID deaths count no matter what underlying conditions patients have, I smell bull$hit!!!
From NYT:
"After at least 33 nursing home residents died after their vaccinations, Norwegian health authorities on Sunday emphasized that the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is safe and said that the deaths may have been largely unrelated.
Those who died were very ill; some were terminal patients, not expected to live longer than weeks or months."
Covid-19: California Confronts New Variants as Virus Deaths Climb (Published 2021)
An incoming Biden administration official warns the United States will pass 500,000 deaths. Officials in Norway say vaccines are safe after at least 33 very ill nursing home residents who were inoculated died.
Quick question, why are they vaccinating people who only have a week to live?
Yet i never see posters here try to splice the covid deaths and say they were very ill and likely to die anyhow
California worried about a certain batch Moderna vaccines and allergic reactions...
www.foxla.com
California official calls for pause on Moderna vaccine batch due to possible allergic reaction
California health officials are recommending providers pause the administration of a specific batch of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine due to possible allergic reactions that are under investigation.
“No evidence of direct link to Pfizer-BioNTech shot: officials”
Norway Moves to Calm Vaccine Anxiety After Elderly Deaths
Health authorities in Norway sought to allay safety concerns raised by the death of some elderly patients after they were vaccinated against Covid-19, saying there’s no evidence of a direct link.
www.bloomberg.com
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yeah they cannot keep up with their hypocrisy, now its old people die excuse..wait wut
So when you don't believe in masks or shutdowns (I.e. social distancing), are afraid of vaccines and constantly whine about government measures, how exactly do you suggest we handle this pandemic? Really curious.
There is a story from the LA Times today stating that MLB will not require proof of vaccination in order to enter the Stadiums but that states may require it.Unbelievable.Stay home.We went to games in 1957,1968, and 1969 when epidemics were ravaging the country, so why is it different now?
Well that is true , “old people die” . We all will eventually die as it is the cycle of life. What has made this so easy to think or say in 2021 ? It appears some people feel safe and secure and by discarding older people now it improves their future lives. It used to be a common human trait you protect the elderly , the infirm those who need protecting. The entire vaccine debacle is representative of the “ me first” group. If you can get the vaccine sooner great ...if not too bad... Sorry try to have a pleasant death. Imagine if there were still no vaccines available as a potential safeguard Or cure. Now that would be interesting ...
It was quite different. Actually much different and we didn’t have a media whose intent is to divide and separate .
i never said I didnt believe in social distancing, you are a liar. In fact social distancing is always the #1 thing to do however lockdowns are complete garbage and it has been proven throughout the country
and nice deflection from what I was talking about which was elderly dying..its okay when they die AFTER a vaccine, nothing to see but when its covid..oh boy count those stats
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