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OT: Working virtual, where to live on the East Coast

Really, you sure about that? :)

I'm absolutely sure. Football was painful at times, but I always have a great time tail gaiting. There's always the usual crowd, but old friends dropped by too. As for wrestling, it's great. We're always in the top 20 and even if we lose, there's always great individual performances. If you haven't been you should definitely try it. We're near the top in attendance every year.
 
Odd question. I’ve always been able to live wherever I want. I’m not a coal miner who has to live where the coal is.
I’m not sure you understood the question. By what you stated, you would be the perfect person to give a good answer.
 
Maine - and don’t think twice.
Maine seems to be the hot place to retire to right now. My brother retired there and a bunch of friends as well. It doesn’t get as cold as you would think if you live by the coast. Not much snow either. Healthcare seems OK, but close enough to Boston if you really need something.
 
Specifically to the OP and not all the usual sidebars- it is a great question. For me and my family, I would think the Carolinas. I have too much family up here to move all the way down to Fla and want to get away from all the cold.
And the question was about remote work, not retirement, so tax on SS isn’t in play.
I would want a place that has nice weather, outdoor activity, modern indoor activity, culture and at least some progression. And yet- just not too far from NY/NJ
 
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Maine seems to be the hot place to retire to right now. My brother retired there and a bunch of friends as well. It doesn’t get as cold as you would think if you live by the coast. Not much snow either. Healthcare seems OK, but close enough to Boston if you really need something.
Good friend of mine is up there, he loves it but the “not much snow” is just a little bit off- he has 2 feet in his back yard already.
 
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As to #4, very important consideration. About 25 years ago, one of our parents suddenly passed. We moved back to NJ, and we never looked back. Kids lived near the remaining grandparents who made all the birthday parties, important school events, etc. Family is important.
#6- I alluded to this. Is $4,000-6,000/year worth it if you are making less money, and/or driving back up to NJ several times per year to visit friends, family and go to RU games, etc. Not to us.

As to #7- same for a lot of us who have favorite recreation spots. For me, the mountain biking trails in South Monmouth are superb. Can also bike ride to the beach. Our marina is a few miles away. Life is good here, regardless of others' complaints. Also, like that we can get a good sub, pizza, or any type of meal of various types from a wide variety of restaurants.
You’re right and this is why a hypothetical framed this way is stupid .
 
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Good friend of mine is up there, he loves it but the “not much snow” is just a little bit off- he has 2 feet in his back yard already.
Depends where you live in Maine. My brother is by Bar Harbor. Nothing crazy there. Was just in upstate NY this weekend and western Catskills / southern Adirondack’s had 20”+. Literally the eastern side of the Catskills had nothing. Maybe a couple of inches on pavement but it’s all gone now.
 
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As to #4, very important consideration. About 25 years ago, one of our parents suddenly passed. We moved back to NJ, and we never looked back. Kids lived near the remaining grandparents who made all the birthday parties, important school events, etc. Family is important.
#6- I alluded to this. Is $4,000-6,000/year worth it if you are making less money, and/or driving back up to NJ several times per year to visit friends, family and go to RU games, etc. Not to us.

As to #7- same for a lot of us who have favorite recreation spots. For me, the mountain biking trails in South Monmouth are superb. Can also bike ride to the beach. Our marina is a few miles away. Life is good here, regardless of others' complaints. Also, like that we can get a good sub, pizza, or any type of meal of various types from a wide variety of restaurants.

You mentioned one thing I forgot, grandkids. My parents want to see their grandkids on a regular basis. They're still driving, but less and less each year.

My brother has a son and my brother's in-laws moved to a grey ghetto in Florida. Del Boca Vista Phase 3 or something like that. They see my nephew about once every 2 years and basically have no relationship with him or their other grandkids at all. To each his own I suppose, but my kids love seeing their grandparents.

If I ever end up being a grandfather and my kids live in NJ, there's no way I'm moving.
 
Specifically to the OP and not all the usual sidebars- it is a great question. For me and my family, I would think the Carolinas. I have too much family up here to move all the way down to Fla and want to get away from all the cold.
And the question was about remote work, not retirement, so tax on SS isn’t in play.
I would want a place that has nice weather, outdoor activity, modern indoor activity, culture and at least some progression. And yet- just not too far from NY/NJ
I taught for a semester at the University of North Carolina. There were a lot of transplanted Yankees in the area (Chapel Hill, Raleigh, Durham, Research Triangle Park.) It was just as you describe it. I found the summer awfully hot, but your mileage may vary. I was also unlucky enough to be there the semester that Hurricane Fran hit. I remarked to a colleague that, "We northerners complain about snow, but you can shovel it and it melts in a few days. It's not so easy to deal with a tree that's fallen through your roof!" The apartment complex I was in did not lose water or power, but that was rare.
 
Specifically to the OP and not all the usual sidebars- it is a great question. For me and my family, I would think the Carolinas. I have too much family up here to move all the way down to Fla and want to get away from all the cold.
And the question was about remote work, not retirement, so tax on SS isn’t in play.
I would want a place that has nice weather, outdoor activity, modern indoor activity, culture and at least some progression. And yet- just not too far from NY/NJ
Well you have a family . Let’s say you just graduated and finished your football career at rutgers . 22 years old single male and you get a remote job . You might want to live in Hoboken.
 
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Specifically to the OP and not all the usual sidebars- it is a great question. For me and my family, I would think the Carolinas. I have too much family up here to move all the way down to Fla and want to get away from all the cold.
And the question was about remote work, not retirement, so tax on SS isn’t in play.
I would want a place that has nice weather, outdoor activity, modern indoor activity, culture and at least some progression. And yet- just not too far from NY/NJ
It was 30 years ago, but at least in Wilmington, NC, there was a vocal group of people still fighting that war with little remarks. Yankee this, Yankee that. Nothing nasty, and not enough to bother us, but enough to notice and think WTF with some people, and just kinda weird. Maybe it's changed. It also may have changed, but remember NC had an "intangible property tax" on things like stocks and mutual funds. They get you with taxes one way or another.
 
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You mentioned one thing I forgot, grandkids. My parents want to see their grandkids on a regular basis. They're still driving, but less and less each year.

My brother has a son and my brother's in-laws moved to a grey ghetto in Florida. Del Boca Vista Phase 3 or something like that. They see my nephew about once every 2 years and basically have no relationship with him or their other grandkids at all. To each his own I suppose, but my kids love seeing their grandparents.

If I ever end up being a grandfather and my kids live in NJ, there's no way I'm moving.
If you are hunting in the Manasquan River WMA when you are a grandfather, don't shoot the old guy on the three-wheeled mountain bike. 😜
 
It was 30 years ago, but at least in Wilmington, NC, there was a vocal group of people still fighting that war with little remarks. Yankee this, Yankee that. Nothing nasty, and not enough to bother us, but enough to notice and think WTF with some people, and just kinda weird. Maybe it's changed. It also may have changed, but remember NC had an "intangible property tax" on things like stocks and mutual funds. They get you with taxes one way or another.
All part of the equation. Is it weird to say it would have been so much easier 20+ years ago when I was not in an interracial marriage.
In NJ/ NY- it is so much more a common thing that we rarely get sideways looks anymore.
We do get stares but most likely because even in her 50’s my wife is still hot as hell. Lol
 
I’m not sure you understood the question. By what you stated, you would be the perfect person to give a good answer.
For himself, not OP.

Answer will be quite different for everyone ...which is about the only conclusion to be drawn from the thread.
 
For himself, not OP.

Answer will be quite different for everyone ...which is about the only conclusion to be drawn from the thread.
I took the OP to be asking what each of us would do. So, yes, for himself.
 
I'm actually in this exact situation. I'm working mostly remotely now and can live in any of the states you've listed and I have chosen to stay exactly where I am in NJ.
1. I have friends from the town I grew up in, college, and the town I live in. Out of all of them, about 95% live in NJ and we get together all the time. Not just tail gates, but parties, camping, golf, and nights out in the city. I would really miss that if I moved.
2. I have a 6th grader and a sophomore in high school and the schools are great.
3. I have one kid with special needs and the support that NJ provides is the best in the country. I have a friend that moved back here just for that reason alone.
4. My parents are in their 70's and will start needing my help soon. I need to be near them.
5. Any further north and it's too cold for me.
6. My job has a geographical adjustment. One guy I work with lives in Southern Virginia. He's at the exact level as me and has the same amount of years on the job. He pays $4,000 a year less in property taxes as me which is nice, but he also makes $40,000 a year less than me.
7. If I moved, I would have to find new fishing and hunting spots and I don't want to start all over.
8. I love going to Rutgers football games and wrestling matches.
My sister has a special needs child and she also tells me there is no State in the country that provides services for these children than New Jersey

He gets a lot of hate on this board but a huge reason for that is Steve Sweeney. He was and is a huge advocate for children with special needs and he used his power to make sure no one put them aside.
 
You mentioned one thing I forgot, grandkids. My parents want to see their grandkids on a regular basis. They're still driving, but less and less each year.

My brother has a son and my brother's in-laws moved to a grey ghetto in Florida. Del Boca Vista Phase 3 or something like that. They see my nephew about once every 2 years and basically have no relationship with him or their other grandkids at all. To each his own I suppose, but my kids love seeing their grandparents.

If I ever end up being a grandfather and my kids live in NJ, there's no way I'm moving.
My sister lived in Texas was married and had children when see decided to move back.

She realized living in Texas would mean her children would not have the relationship with grandparents and even uncles, aunts and cousins that all the other grandchildren had.

It meant more than everything to her. No regrets and her children are also happy they moved here.


And all of them pay lots of taxes
 
My sister has a special needs child and she also tells me there is no State in the country that provides services for these children than New Jersey

He gets a lot of hate on this board but a huge reason for that is Steve Sweeney. He was and is a huge advocate for children with special needs and he used his power to make sure no one put them aside.
I didn't know that about Sweeney and it's true. He himself has a special needs child. https://www.northjersey.com/story/n...-sidelines-nj-disability-champion/8651962002/
 
Conversely, one can say the people down south are the epitomie of personal

Moreover, due to great weather, nobody I know down south stays home like we have to in winter

Different strokes for different folks… but there’s a reason nobody moves up north to retire
“Epitomie of personal”. You’ll fit right in.

It’s epitome of personable, fyi.
 
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My sister has a special needs child and she also tells me there is no State in the country that provides services for these children than New Jersey

He gets a lot of hate on this board but a huge reason for that is Steve Sweeney. He was and is a huge advocate for children with special needs and he used his power to make sure no one put them aside.

Massachusetts? Not to say New Jersey is anywhere but near the top.
 
My sister has a special needs child and she also tells me there is no State in the country that provides services for these children than New Jersey

He gets a lot of hate on this board but a huge reason for that is Steve Sweeney. He was and is a huge advocate for children with special needs and he used his power to make sure no one put them aside.
You mean, Norcross is a huge advocate for children with special needs and told Sweeney to use his power to make sure no one put them aside.
 
Massachusetts? Not to say New Jersey is anywhere but near the top.
New Jersey pretty much stands alone. The opportunities for school age kids with severe disabilities are much broader here than anywhere else, from funded early intervention options, both public and private, beginning at age 3, all the way through vocational and residential options for clients 21 and over. NJ DDD's philosophy focuses on specificity and continuity of care through out the life span. No other state has such a broad, yet detailed, approach.
 
You mean, Norcross is a huge advocate for children with special needs and told Sweeney to use his power to make sure no one put them aside.
Whatever floats your boat.

I once met Sweeney and told him my sister says to thank you for everything you do for her daughter.

He immediately filled up and once he composed himself broke into a huge smile and talked to me for a half hour.

He walks the walk for children with disabilities
 
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New Jersey pretty much stands alone. The opportunities for school age kids with severe disabilities are much broader here than anywhere else, from funded early intervention options, both public and private, beginning at age 3, all the way through vocational and residential options for clients 21 and over. NJ DDD's philosophy focuses on specificity and continuity of care through out the life span. No other state has such a broad, yet detailed, approach.
That is my sister’s experience and her career has taken her to a number of places
 
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“Epitomie of personal”. You’ll fit right in.

It’s epitome of personable, fyi.
Ahhh
The grammar police have arrived, spewing typical stereotypes

Memo… nobody gives a shit about spelling.

It’s a college fb message board turned into a male soap opera, which were all voluntarily taking part of as evidenced by non football related posts and their grammar inspired responses

Usually I’d banter, but we’re on the way to Naples.

Have fun freezing your balls off - I’ll keep spelling things incorrectly via talk texts, while having a beer on 5th Ave and giving zero ****s about anything til the Noles take over Orlando end of December
 
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Whatever floats your boat.

I once met Sweeney and told him my sister says to thank you for everything you do for her daughter.

He immediately filled up and once he composed himself broke into a huge smile and talked to me for a half hour.

He walks the walk for children with disabilities
Norcross has 2 special needs children in his immediate family. He in part selected Sweeney to be his tool in Trenton since he had the same connection. I will say both are honest men when it comes to this issue and have done plenty of good.
 
Ahhh
The grammar police have arrived, spewing typical stereotypes

Memo… nobody gives a shit about spelling.

It’s a college fb message board turned into a male soap opera, which were all voluntarily taking part of as evidenced by non football related posts and their grammar inspired responses

Usually I’d banter, but we’re on the way to Naples.

Have fun freezing your balls off - I’ll keep spelling things incorrectly via talk texts, while having a beer on 5th Ave and giving zero ****s about anything til the Noles take over Orlando end of December
Seriously, between autocorrect, typing on mobile devices, etc, hoo wurrees about proppar grammerr and spelling on a foosball massage bored?
 
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Seriously, between autocorrect, typing on mobile devices, etc, hoo wurrees about proppar grammerr and spelling on a foosball massage bored?
Probably the same people that swear they’re done with the football program bc of NIL, yet keep posting incessantly on a college football message board supporting said program
 
Maine seems to be the hot place to retire to right now. My brother retired there and a bunch of friends as well. It doesn’t get as cold as you would think if you live by the coast. Not much snow either. Healthcare seems OK, but close enough to Boston if you really need something.

There must be something up there that people like. I've had multiple family members move up there in the past year. My brother spends summer and fall up there and winter and spring in Mexico, which isn't a bad idea.
 
There must be something up there that people like. I've had multiple family members move up there in the past year. My brother spends summer and fall up there and winter and spring in Mexico, which isn't a bad idea.
I had a friend that bought a cabin for $40,000. That might be it
 
My sister has a special needs child and she also tells me there is no State in the country that provides services for these children than New Jersey

He gets a lot of hate on this board but a huge reason for that is Steve Sweeney. He was and is a huge advocate for children with special needs and he used his power to make sure no one put them aside.
I am in the same boat. Have guardianship for my youngest son, and would have to do that again if we move. My older children are likely to settle here (they have started their adult lives here) and we don't want to take my youngest away from his siblings (he goes where we go). So we stay even though we want to leave. When retirement rolls around in 10 to 15 years, we'll rethink things.
 
Ahhh
The grammar police have arrived, spewing typical stereotypes

Memo… nobody gives a shit about spelling.

It’s a college fb message board turned into a male soap opera, which were all voluntarily taking part of as evidenced by non football related posts and their grammar inspired responses

Usually I’d banter, but we’re on the way to Naples.

Have fun freezing your balls off - I’ll keep spelling things incorrectly via talk texts, while having a beer on 5th Ave and giving zero ****s about anything til the Noles take over Orlando end of December

You showed me…that you’re kind of thin-skinned.

And last I checked, when I talk into my phone it doesn’t misspell words. Might get the wrong word.
 
Hershey Pa was probably my favorite place I have lived in terms of ‘small town feel’ but with world class amenities.

Lots of great neighborhoods in Hershey and an awesome town. Obviously there’s the park and chocolate factory, but downtown Hershey is pretty fantastic in its own right.

There’s a great theater there, really nice bars/restaurants and downtown district, concert venue, etc. World Class Hospital, it’s 15 min from Harrisburg airport and right off of several interstates, you can get to Philly or Baltimore in 90 minutes. The school system is also excellent out there…

Giant center is also a great place to watch a hockey game and you can’t beat sitting center ice in the 100’s for $30. Not to mention a BUNCH of great musicians go through Hershey. I saw Paul McCartney a few summers ago in Hershey

Maybe the one downside is it’s MAJOR Penn state territory but what are you gonna do? Lol
 
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People who self-righteously proclaim "spelling and grammar don't matter" go immediately into my mental trash bin.

Of course they do. They matter greatly. Attention to detail is attention to detail, regardless of how it's manifested. If you've got no time for spelling, punctuation, etc., then you probably have no time for analysis, reason and facts.
 
New Jersey pretty much stands alone. The opportunities for school age kids with severe disabilities are much broader here than anywhere else, from funded early intervention options, both public and private, beginning at age 3, all the way through vocational and residential options for clients 21 and over. NJ DDD's philosophy focuses on specificity and continuity of care through out the life span. No other state has such a broad, yet detailed, approach.
Not exactly accurate. It’s not a knock on New Jersey as they do have great opportunities for those children but so does Maryland. Between Kennedy Kreager and Sheppard Pratt (both tied in with Johns Hopkins) Maryland offers one of the most advanced programs in the country for those with disabilities.
 
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