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OT: Working virtual, where to live on the East Coast

Certain people would be happy anywhere
Certain people would be miserable anywhere
they are easy to identify
Amen, brother.

Also, when happy people try explaining how that works to unhappy people, to try to help them learn how to be happy all the time too, it almost never works. The unhappy just forcefully restate everything that makes them unhappy, which is almost everything.

The irony is intense and, I would think, unmissable. Yet they miss it. Woosh, right over their heads.

Which makes me sad.

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But not for long. 🙂
 
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People who self-righteously proclaim "spelling and grammar don't matter" go immediately into my mental trash bin.

Of course they do. They matter greatly. Attention to detail is attention to detail, regardless of how it's manifested. If you've got no time for spelling, punctuation, etc., then you probably have no time for analysis, reason and facts.
On an entertainment (football is entertainment) message board while typing from a phone? Autocorrect does weird things and couple that with fat thumbs and crappy keyboards.

To your point, however, of course spelling and grammar matter. But here, not to me. And it becomes a distraction in an otherwise good thread.

(typed from a computer keyboard using the finest Queen's English).
 
I agree that good things cost money. For many, it simply comes down to what they value

NJ has a lot to offer - 4 season, tons of diversity, tremendous food options, the best schools, close to NYC/Philly

I love warm weather, relaxed people, and college sports. So the diversity, food, schools, close to cities fact(s), though real, aren't imperative for me

My wife loves all of those aspects, sans the big cities being close. To her, living in NJ is fine and she'd be fine with it in retirement

That's why moving to the panhandle is a compromise IMO. You get all four seasons (though an abbreviated, milder winter and a longer, hotter summer).

Additionally, though I'd be fine w/staying there 12 months/year, it gets hot. Real hot. For extended periods. Due to that, having a place "up north," be it in the Carolina's, NJ, Delaware, New England, though not essential and certainly not cheap, would fit her needs for the summer

We'll see though. Still a ways to go and many variables. Where our child ends up, health, finances, her parents, etc. - but I'd rather try planning now then being left scrambling when it's time

Sure, some people prefer it, but most people prefer places like NJ or NY or CA- the prices for homes dictate that.

Entry for a bar with a cover band costs $5, and tickets to Springsteen may cost $500. Some people may prefer the cover band, but the price is dictated by the majority preference.
 
Mass exodus and one reason is there is too much traffic and people?

Are you trying to copy Yogi?

It's one of those mass exoduses from NJ where the population keeps increasing in NJ, I guess.

Also, LOL that NJ education is worsening, it's consistently top 5 in any ranking.

Meanwhile Floriduh is abysmal in any ranking that isn't property insurance cost and international embarrassment.
 
Common sense people are moving out of NJ and making places like FL even redder. Its leaving the wackos to rule NJ, which is why Trenton is Trenton.

I know I speak for most Americans when I say I love the things "common sense people" are doing, especially last month, in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania and Arizona.

Keep up the wonderful work!

Can we help all these folks concentrate in Florida? The faster the better!
 
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Yeah man
Naples...trashy
Boca...trashy
Ponte Vedra...trashy
Jupiter...trashy

Newsflash...every place has trashy areas. Some of you guys act like NJ is utopia. Love it here but we have our fair share of less-than-desirable places...

Camden
Atlantic City
Trenton
Large parts of Newark and Jersey City

Ever been to South Jersey? Like deep south jersey? Check out some of those gems down there. I've been - was surprised to see more than a few Nascar and confederate flags.

Phillipsburg... great wrestling, not much else.

The aforementioned places, you could close your eyes and open them, and legitimately feel like you were in the deep south. Or rust belt.

Amazing what is said on these boards at times...

Those places in NJ are the minority.

There is a reason "Florida man" is a thing.

The mix of retirees, Confederacy nostalgics, and the people who couldn't take it up here is nausea inducing.

I would take Jersey City over that anyday. And I'd take our Snooki stereotype too. She runs a successful business versus whatever the heck goes on in Wal Mart down there.
 
Philly, Chicago and Boston for the most part indistinguishable? Seriously?
Maybe not indistinguishable but Chicago and Boston are ahead of Philly.
For the cold weather cities- 1- NYC, 2-Chicago, 3-Boston far distant after is Philly, Clev, Balt
 
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Maybe not indistinguishable but Chicago and Boston are ahead of Philly.
For the cold weather cities- 1- NYC, 2-Chicago, 3-Boston far distant after is Philly, Clev, Balt
Only good thing about Cleveland is the airport. A while back, I was there for an event at the Cleveland Clinic. We got about 12 inches of snow. I assumed I was going to be stuck in town for an extra day or two. Nope. Within 60 mins of the snow ending, CLE was open and my flight left on time. They know how to deal with snow! :)
 
Only good thing about Cleveland is the airport. A while back, I was there for an event at the Cleveland Clinic. We got about 12 inches of snow. I assumed I was going to be stuck in town for an extra day or two. Nope. Within 60 mins of the snow ending, CLE was open and my flight left on time. They know how to deal with snow! :)
That is why behind Philly and just ahead of Balt
 
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Those places in NJ are the minority.

There is a reason "Florida man" is a thing.

The mix of retirees, Confederacy nostalgics, and the people who couldn't take it up here is nausea inducing.

I would take Jersey City over that anyday. And I'd take our Snooki stereotype too. She runs a successful business versus whatever the heck goes on in Wal Mart down there.
You’d take JC over Naples?
Pass me some of what you’re smoking man

On the other hand, it does leave additional inventory down south for Team Smooth to choose from… so keep puffing away
 
Those places in NJ are the minority.

There is a reason "Florida man" is a thing.

The mix of retirees, Confederacy nostalgics, and the people who couldn't take it up here is nausea inducing.

I would take Jersey City over that anyday. And I'd take our Snooki stereotype too. She runs a successful business versus whatever the heck goes on in Wal Mart down there.
Also, what does that mean “the people who couldn’t take it up here?”

Couldn’t take the cold? Taxes? Honest question - what does that even translate to?

Is it equivalent to Italians moving from mainland Italy / Sicily, to Little Italy, then to Queens/Brooklyn, then Long Island/Staten Island, now to the Hamptons/Jersey?

Would they also fall into the “couldn’t take it” bucket?

Do tell - I’m anxious to hear more about these lemmings.

Since they apparently shop at Walmart, do we toss them into the group once chacterized as the “basket of deplorables?”

Clearly I need to be educated so I don’t fall into this group of undesirables. It sounds truly frightening
 
Only good thing about Cleveland is the airport. A while back, I was there for an event at the Cleveland Clinic. We got about 12 inches of snow. I assumed I was going to be stuck in town for an extra day or two. Nope. Within 60 mins of the snow ending, CLE was open and my flight left on time. They know how to deal with snow! :)
Cleveland is great w snow - they have it down!

For cold-weather cities.. I prefer, Boston, then Chicago (north side).

Baltimore (near the harbor) would be third, Cleveland 4th. NYC a distant 5th, and Detroit not far behind in 6th
 
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Cleveland is great w snow - they have it down!

For cold-weather cities.. I prefer, Boston, then Chicago (north side).

Baltimore (near the harbor) would be third, Cleveland 4th. NYC a distant 5th, and Detroit not far behind in 6th
I think the past 5 years have really hurt NYC. Prior to that, it was a clear number 1. Boston/Chicago- both are great. And unless Detroit has done something I am unaware of- it is a shithole lol
 
I think the past 5 years have really hurt NYC. Prior to that, it was a clear number 1. Boston/Chicago- both are great. And unless Detroit has done something I am unaware of- it is a shithole lol
I agree, in the last five years, New York City has gone downhill dramatically.

I would still have rated Boston number one in Chicago number two based on my preferences, but I probably would’ve had New York at number three ahead of Baltimore and Cleveland respectively.

Detroit is absolutely last as unfortunately it’s a complete dump.
 
Cleveland is great w snow - they have it down!

For cold-weather cities.. I prefer, Boston, then Chicago (north side).

Baltimore (near the harbor) would be third, Cleveland 4th. NYC a distant 5th, and Detroit not far behind in 6th
Are you sure it’s just that they are good with snow and not because they wanted to get rid of T2k as quickly as possible
 
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I agree, in the last five years, New York City has gone downhill dramatically.

I would still have rated Boston number one in Chicago number two based on my preferences, but I probably would’ve had New York at number three ahead of Baltimore and Cleveland respectively.

Detroit is absolutely last as unfortunately it’s a complete dump.
I forgot Philly

I’d rate it either slightly above or below New York

Like NYC, it’s another place that’s gone way downhill in the past 5 years
 
I agree, in the last five years, New York City has gone downhill dramatically.

I would still have rated Boston number one in Chicago number two based on my preferences, but I probably would’ve had New York at number three ahead of Baltimore and Cleveland respectively.

Detroit is absolutely last as unfortunately it’s a complete dump.

Detroit is just beginning to turn around. But compared to that, the rebuild of RUs offense will be the blink of an eye.
 
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Detroit is just beginning to turn around. But compared to that, the rebuild of RUs offense will be the blink of an eye.
I used to travel to 5-7 cities a week back in the early 2000’s. Detroit was one and then over to Kalamazoo- the only city I had no interest in finding a hotel or restaurant, was Detroit. Columbus was actually a nice business trip. Atlanta was one of my favorite- but Boston and Chicago were pure pleasure.
NYC still stays number 1 for me, but you really just need to pay attention
 
Detroit is just beginning to turn around. But compared to that, the rebuild of RUs offense will be the blink of an eye.
I used to go to Detroit on a regular basis for business in 2007-2010. Detroit was already getting better at the time. Generally we were in the burbs, but we would stay downtown at the Renaissance Center Marriott and hit the casinos on the last night of the trip. There was not a lot of restaurants open at the time but walking around Greektown I never had an issue. If you are from NY/NJ and have been to NYC or Newark at night, Detroit was no different.
 
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You’d take JC over Naples?
Pass me some of what you’re smoking man

On the other hand, it does leave additional inventory down south for Team Smooth to choose from… so keep puffing away

In JC you could legally smoke it. And not be surrounded by retirees when you do it too lol
 
Also, what does that mean “the people who couldn’t take it up here?”

Couldn’t take the cold? Taxes? Honest question - what does that even translate to?

Is it equivalent to Italians moving from mainland Italy / Sicily, to Little Italy, then to Queens/Brooklyn, then Long Island/Staten Island, now to the Hamptons/Jersey?

Would they also fall into the “couldn’t take it” bucket?

Do tell - I’m anxious to hear more about these lemmings.

Since they apparently shop at Walmart, do we toss them into the group once chacterized as the “basket of deplorables?”

Clearly I need to be educated so I don’t fall into this group of undesirables. It sounds truly frightening

LOL, yeah, people moving to Florida because they weren't able to be successful in NJ is just like people fleeing feudal society in Italy- which all of my own ancestors did. Only difference must be the leader who wears Dallas Cowboys cheerleader boots LMAO
 
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LOL, yeah, people moving to Florida because they weren't able to be successful in NJ is just like people fleeing feudal society in Italy- which all of my own ancestors did. Only difference must be the leader who wears Dallas Cowboys cheerleader boots LMAO
Or… they wanted a better life in the US.

That’s what makes life awesome - we’re all different with seperate goals & objectives, likes & dislikes
 
Or… they wanted a better life in the US.

That’s what makes life awesome - we’re all different with seperate goals & objectives, likes & dislikes

Sure. No one is stopping anyone from moving to Florida. I hope all the NJ complainers move there.
 
And of course, it's not legal in Florida. That's reserved for freedom based states, like NJ.
Yeah, NJ is the epitome of freedom
Especially during Covid lol

Gov. Horse Teeth locked this place down like a 1980’s whore house on 42nd street

Place felt like a prison - thank God we were able to spend a majority of time down there during the height of it all
 
Sure. No one is stopping anyone from moving to Florida. I hope all the NJ complainers move there.
Once we’re fully vested with the generous state pension & benefits, we’re out

Wouldn’t mind a summer shore house in Stone Harbor / Avalon area… but unless we hit it big, that’s likely just a pipe dream
 
Yeah, NJ is the epitome of freedom
Especially during Covid lol

Gov. Horse Teeth locked this place down like a 1980’s whore house on 42nd street

Place felt like a prison - thank God we were able to spend a majority of time down there during the height of it all

Totally bro.

NJ is so tyrannical. I mean Florida has judges denying teenage girls control of their own body, but in NJ you had to wear a mask in the supermarket, which is obviously way more serious.

Prison lmao. Everything here was open. But again, you saw what you saw on TV, the only sad part is you returned.
 
Once we’re fully vested with the generous state pension & benefits, we’re out

Wouldn’t mind a summer shore house in Stone Harbor / Avalon area… but unless we hit it big, that’s likely just a pipe dream

Totally bro. Big bad NJ and their tyrannical pension they make you take.

Don't come back here, please. I hear there's scary things in NJ they don't allow in Florida, like drag brunch and weed dispensaries. Stay with the luminaries in the Villages.
 
Totally bro.

NJ is so tyrannical. I mean Florida has judges denying teenage girls control of their own body, but in NJ you had to wear a mask in the supermarket, which is obviously way more serious.

Prison lmao. Everything here was open. But again, you saw what you saw on TV, the only sad part is you returned.
Daughters preschool - closed
Restaurants - closed
Businesses - forced to go under

Not going down the rabbit hole of teenage girls arguement as this isn’t the CE board

I figured with your impressive post count you’d be a bit more rational with facts and not live in an alternative universe

Could it be you had one too many hits off the old one-hitter and it fried the brain?
 
Once we’re fully vested with the generous state pension & benefits, we’re out

Wouldn’t mind a summer shore house in Stone Harbor / Avalon area… but unless we hit it big, that’s likely just a pipe dream
Why not go now? I know people who moved to FL and like it.
 
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Totally bro. Big bad NJ and their tyrannical pension they make you take.

Don't come back here, please. I hear there's scary things in NJ they don't allow in Florida, like drag brunch and weed dispensaries. Stay with the luminaries in the Villages.
We pay into it
We earned it
You damn right we takin it

Weed not my thing, but pretty easy to get down there. Medical marijuana card is all you need - procuring that not difficult

As stated, would love to have shore house in the Jerz. Born & bred in the 908 and so many awesome times here

But the times… they are a changin
 
Daughters preschool - closed
Restaurants - closed
Businesses - forced to go under

Not going down the rabbit hole of teenage girls arguement as this isn’t the CE board

I figured with your impressive post count you’d be a bit more rational with facts and not live in an alternative universe

Could it be you had one too many hits off the old one-hitter and it fried the brain?

LOL. Restaurants were back open in June. Very few businesses went under. What a preschool decides is their business. Schools were closed in every other state.

The thing is you try to gaslight and make people think we didn't live through things we did. You're the one saying NJ is tyrannical as you refuse to leave. Just another complainer who talks big and acts small.
 
We pay into it
We earned it
You damn right we takin it

Weed not my thing, but pretty easy to get down there. Medical marijuana card is all you need - procuring that not difficult

As stated, would love to have shore house in the Jerz. Born & bred in the 908 and so many awesome times here

But the times… they are a changin
Do you get the free health care for life after retirement ?
 
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LOL. Restaurants were back open in June. Very few businesses went under. What a preschool decides is their business. Schools were closed in every other state.

The thing is you try to gaslight and make people think we didn't live through things we did. You're the one saying NJ is tyrannical as you refuse to leave. Just another complainer who talks big and acts small.
All weren’t open back in June
Many went under

The great part about living in the US is we have… wait for it… freedom of speech

I know your ilk likes to cancel all dissenters out, but facts are facts

Sounds like you’re getting a little butthurt about anyone speaking out against the Garden State…
 
We pay into it
We earned it
You damn right we takin it

Weed not my thing, but pretty easy to get down there. Medical marijuana card is all you need - procuring that not difficult

As stated, would love to have shore house in the Jerz. Born & bred in the 908 and so many awesome times here

But the times… they are a changin

Of course. It's just other people living off the government that shouldn't be able.

Why you should you need a medical card? In NJ we have basic freedom, not crazy bureaucracy.

I agree. NJ gets better and better every time a complainer leaves. But it would really be perfect if every whiner complained and never came back.

Every time a truck crosses the Delaware Memorial to head to Florida the state IQ average surges. It's a beautiful change, can't ruin it with part timers!
 
I'm completely opposed to the notion of people living someplace just to bitch endlessly about it. It just doesn't make any sense.

I've lived in NJ since I was 5 - we moved up from Florida in the 60s because my father didn't want me growing up there. We'll stay here because, frankly, it's a pretty civilized place except for the immigrants from Staten Island who insist on moving here and then complaining that it's not NYC.

When I retire in a couple of years I'll probably spend at least 6 months per year outside of the country, sailing to various warm places to hang out on the boat and be warm. All good.
 
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