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Patience but Change After the Season

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RU Athletics is a long term project. Getting into the BIG saved the athletics program from being completely irrelevant. We all know that a career offensive line coach is not the answer to bring this program into the future. We should realize that overnight we would not be competitive in the BIG, we never won an outright Big East or AAC Championship. The biggest issue I have with where we are is the culture and the off the field issues with Flood and the players alike. I can stand the losing, I cannot stand the recent string of absurd behavior off the field. To me, that begins and ends with the Head Coach. It is time for a change.
 
RU Athletics is a long term project. Getting into the BIG saved the athletics program from being completely irrelevant. We all know that a career offensive line coach is not the answer to bring this program into the future. We should realize that overnight we would not be competitive in the BIG, we never won an outright Big East or AAC Championship. The biggest issue I have with where we are is the culture and the off the field issues with Flood and the players alike. I can stand the losing, I cannot stand the recent string of absurd behavior off the field. To me, that begins and ends with the Head Coach. It is time for a change.

Very solid post, and one of the more rational posts in the last 24 hours, except for the last line and the off the field issues being "the biggest issue."

The off the field issues may be a symptom of a larger problem of the lackadaisical nature of Flood.

The real question is when is "it time"? It's not time while Barchi is around.

On the Nebraska thread, I posted that in Nebraska's first 2 years in the B1G, they were getting blown out by Ohio State and Wisconsin. They were closing the gap, especially last year, but decided to fire Pelini, partly because he never won the big games. They are rebuilding, and may take 2-3 years to get back to 9-10 win seasons. And no, I am not saying Flood is going to turn it around in year 3 or year 4, and we should hold on to Flood for that reason.

So, until our leadership changes or changes their mind, I agree that this is a long term project that requires patience or major donations.
 
" We should realize that overnight we would not be competitive in the BIG........."

Yeah....you'd think so. But sadly, many here do not.
Judging from the posts here today and last night, many think we should have given OSU a run for its money last night. And a bunch here seem to think that RU is gonna fire their head coach any day now, beat out all of the other schools looking for a quality coach and hire the next Vince Lombardi, whose gonna convince loads of New Jersey recruits to shun Alabama, Notre Dame, and Michigan and play for the Scarlet Knights. And years of Top Ten rankings and major bowl games will follow, 'cause the new guy will not be seduced by one of the elite programs but instead choose to remain here in New Jersey. And we'll all live happily ever after.
Poof....wake up....you're dreaming.
 
Agree with all this. But we need to be building long term with a coaching staff that is qualified to compete in this league. We don't have that.
 
Yeah....you'd think so. But sadly, many here do not.
Judging from the posts here today and last night, many think we should have given OSU a run for its money last night. And a bunch here seem to think that RU is gonna fire their head coach any day now, beat out all of the other schools looking for a quality coach and hire the next Vince Lombardi, whose gonna convince loads of New Jersey recruits to shun Alabama, Notre Dame, and Michigan and play for the Scarlet Knights. And years of Top Ten rankings and major bowl games will follow, 'cause the new guy will not be seduced by one of the elite programs but instead choose to remain here in New Jersey. And we'll all live happily ever after.
Poof....wake up....you're dreaming.
It's not that I think we should win, or even be that competitive, it's that I don't think we should be among the 1-3 biggest blowouts on multiple teams schedule each year.
 
Very solid post, and one of the more rational posts in the last 24 hours, except for the last line and the off the field issues being "the biggest issue."

The off the field issues may be a symptom of a larger problem of the lackadaisical nature of Flood.

The real question is when is "it time"? It's not time while Barchi is around.

On the Nebraska thread, I posted that in Nebraska's first 2 years in the B1G, they were getting blown out by Ohio State and Wisconsin. They were closing the gap, especially last year, but decided to fire Pelini, partly because he never won the big games. They are rebuilding, and may take 2-3 years to get back to 9-10 win seasons. And no, I am not saying Flood is going to turn it around in year 3 or year 4, and we should hold on to Flood for that reason.

So, until our leadership changes or changes their mind, I agree that this is a long term project that requires patience or major donations.
"The off the field issues may be a symptom of a larger problem of the lackadaisical nature of Flood."

I agree with that statement. If RU was losing on talent alone I would be OK. The talent is there in most positions. Where it is lacking is at the top. Kyle just never seems engaged. Never coaches with fire or urgency,. He coaches scared and in turn his players play scared and lackadaisical. Watch his side line presence. He stands away from any other coach and players. Watch Urban he is in the mix with the coaches and players Just a total hands off approach when a team that
has been in crisis needs hands on and fire.
 
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Very solid post, and one of the more rational posts in the last 24 hours, except for the last line and the off the field issues being "the biggest issue."

The off the field issues may be a symptom of a larger problem of the lackadaisical nature of Flood.

The real question is when is "it time"? It's not time while Barchi is around.

On the Nebraska thread, I posted that in Nebraska's first 2 years in the B1G, they were getting blown out by Ohio State and Wisconsin. They were closing the gap, especially last year, but decided to fire Pelini, partly because he never won the big games. They are rebuilding, and may take 2-3 years to get back to 9-10 win seasons. And no, I am not saying Flood is going to turn it around in year 3 or year 4, and we should hold on to Flood for that reason.

So, until our leadership changes or changes their mind, I agree that this is a long term project that requires patience or major donations.

LOL when did Pelini get blown out by the likes of Houston and UConn and Kent State?

We shouldn't even bother wringing hands about tOSU when we get blown out by TTFP (who I believe Pelini never lost to) and squeak by Indiana, when Pelini always handled the scrubs.

No Flood is more of a Greg Robinson or Terry Shea mold, except he inherited an honorable and strong program which he took about destroying.
 
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"The off the field issues may be a symptom of a larger problem of the lackadaisical nature of Flood."

I agree with that statement. If RU was losing on talent alone I would be OK. The talent is there in most positions. Where it is lacking is at the top. Kyle just never seems engaged. Never coaches with fire or urgency,. He coaches scared and in turn his players play scared and lackadaisical. Watch his side line presence. He stands away from any other coach and players. Watch Urban he is in the mix with the coaches and players Just a total hands off approach when a team that
has been in crisis needs hands on and fire.
The Rocket was in the mix too. :confused:
 
LOL when did Pelini get blown out by the likes of Houston and UConn and Kent State?

We shouldn't even bother wringing hands about tOSU when we get blown out by TTFP (who I believe Pelini never lost to) and squeak by Indiana, when Pelini always handled the scrubs.

No Flood is more of a Greg Robinson or Terry Shea mold, except he inherited an honorable and strong program which he took about destroying.


1. 28-3 is STILL not a blowout.
2. I knew Terry Shea. Flood is no Shea.
You need to go back and look at RU's record with Shea at its head.
 
1. 28-3 is STILL not a blowout.
2. I knew Terry Shea. Flood is no Shea.
You need to go back and look at RU's record with Shea at its head.

OK. We're the only team amongst Army, SDSU, and Buffalo to never see the TTFP endzone.

I'm sure Shea was more ethical, but then again no email in those days.
 
^ the penn state game was not competitive. Blowout or not. That team was manhandled by Temple.

I'm just gonna come out and say this. As great as the Indiana and Maryland comebacks were, you never trail by 25 points to those teams. This is absurd
 
That 5% thinks our main rivals should be Indiana and Maryland...and once Maryland hires someone competent they will just focus on Indiana, and say as long as we beat Indiana and a some OOC scrubs Flood is a leader of men and extend him of life.
 
^ the penn state game was not competitive. Blowout or not. That team was manhandled by Temple.

I'm just gonna come out and say this. As great as the Indiana and Maryland comebacks were, you never trail by 25 points to those teams. This is absurd


Winning is winning and losing is losing. Don't complicate it.
 
Sadly were somewhere in the middle of all this but with enormous potential with the right HC with the vision....we need someone to rally us around the NJ area state flag...some local product with ''stain''...one thing we do have in NJ is talent in all fields....where is the ''right guy'' to put us where we belong.No offense to Wisconsin or Nebraska but theres no reason we can't do better..
 
Sadly were somewhere in the middle of all this but with enormous potential with the right HC with the vision....we need someone to rally us around the NJ area state flag...some local product with ''stain''...one thing we do have in NJ is talent in all fields....where is the ''right guy'' to put us where we belong.No offense to Wisconsin or Nebraska but theres no reason we can't do better..
This guy is looking for work, and he might meet 2 of the criteria . . . . .
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1. 28-3 is STILL not a blowout.
2. I knew Terry Shea. Flood is no Shea.
You need to go back and look at RU's record with Shea at its head.
Those were the darkest of times. I used to really wonder if we would ever win a game.
 
1. 28-3 is STILL not a blowout.
2. I knew Terry Shea. Flood is no Shea.
You need to go back and look at RU's record with Shea at its head.

I need some of what your taking if you don't think the 28-3 loss to Penn State was not a blowout.
 
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