Pep Hamilton was fired today
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This board has a thread for every single coach in America that has been fired or leaves his job. If the Pop Warner coach of Timbutktu left his role, some fool of an OP would start a thread. It's comical.
He was at Stanford with Harbaugh before heading to Indy as an OC with Andrew Luck. They have had a rough year but I think he was pretty highly regarded.
Does Timbuktu run the spread? If so, put the guy's name on the interview sheet...
Does the HC at Timbuktu write emails asking professors to meet him in Lagos?
I've heard some good things about him. He is open to change. They switch between dairy queen and carvel after alternating wins. He has a longer term focus than 1-0 next week. His team mom is beyond hot, and he leaves all emailing to her! Best of all he kept all the kids from his town from joining neighboring programs in Katmandu and Transylvania State also know as Trans State or TTFT.
Did you guys ever think maybe there's a reason why all these guys are getting fired...maybe...possibly because they suck
This is not the year you would want to go looking for a new head coach if we were to look for one. With all the P5 openings you would be greatly over paying for average coaches
This is not the year you would want to go looking for a new head coach if we were to look for one. With all the P5 openings you would be greatly over paying for average coaches
Jim Mora was fired too and he's done a decent job at UCLA. Pete Carroll was fired so what's your point. I don't know much about the guy but I do remember bitnez has been pushing him for awhile. I have seen his name on coaching candidate lists before too. An article I read said he had the #3 offense in the NFL last year but this year has been a struggle and that he's been inflexible. They wanted to use more tempo in their offense and he's not really done it.
I kind of mentioned him for USC awhile back just as a throwaway comment not really looking at it much. Maybe if an NFL team comes after Shaw, Stanford might be interested in bringing him back.
I kind of mentioned him for USC awhile back just as a throwaway comment not really looking at it much. Maybe if an NFL team comes after Shaw, Stanford might be interested in bringing him back.
The flip side is - a big hiring year probably sweeps up some guts who would have been potential hires next year. In other words - its not like there is a limitless supply of coaches - if more than normal get hired this year, probably you end up with lower quality to choose from next year - so you might overpay next year - or pay market rate for a crappier coach.
Its like the Orioles - they are always looking for value - but at some point you have to concede that you are going to have to overpay for a top player to compete.
If you want to consistently beat OSU/Michigan, then you'll need Saban/Kelly/NFL rockstar. It's not happening.
Now if the goal is to consistently beat 2 of PSU/MSU/Wisconsin/Nebraska, this is much more realistic. But from a business standpoint, are 2 more wins really worth shelling out an additional million (or more)?
Now if the goal is to consistently beat 2 of PSU/MSU/Wisconsin/Nebraska, this is much more realistic. But from a business standpoint, are 2 more wins really worth shelling out an additional million (or more)?
Short answer - Yes
Long answer - From a "business standpoint" there will be no one left in the stands if the school keeps putting that product out on the field. I don't put the losses on the players. I put it 100% on the coaches. They are horrible. Lets try not kicking the ball out of bounds 10 times a year or maybe handling a snap without fumbling it once a game. Do these coaches know how to correct these errors? Because it clearly doesn't appear so.
"I don't put the losses on the players. I put it 100% on the coaches."
While coaching has certainly been a problem, I put some of the blame on the 5 players who betrayed their teammates, their coaches, and us as fans by allegedly committing crimes back in April, a day or so after the spring game. The timing of the arrest of those individuals two days prior to the opening game did great harm to our team and season.
While coaching has certainly been a problem, I put some of the blame on the 5 players who betrayed their teammates, their coaches, and us as fans by allegedly committing crimes back in April, a day or so after the spring game. The timing of the arrest of those individuals two days prior to the opening game did great harm to our team and season.
Paying big money for coach with big name is not a sure thing. I'd much rather try the young up and comer thing. find the diamond in the rough. If we're wrong, we take another swing at it when the Big Ten money finally comes in. PJ Fleck is worth a shot.
And you believe this....why? What in his coaching experience would make him an absolute home run hire??
He was a terrible OC in Indy and his own head coach didn't even want to hire him. He was forced on him by the GM.
Terrible OC? He has been with Andrew Luck at every stage of his development. You know the guy who is considered the next great QB. Also, Pep came in wanting to pound the Rock and adapted to the talent in Indy. I'd say that's good coaching. They had one of the most explosive offenses in football and improved every year until this year bc the GM wasted money on old players like Gore and AJ and left behind a pathetic OL. And Pagano is terrible.
I've seen his name tied to VT as a possible candidate along with Rich Rod (who has ties from his WVU days with Whit Babcock their AD). I thought Bud Foster would have the inside track but reading around it doesn't sound like it.
I think Foster would have had a better chance if Beamer was leaving on a high note. Given the team has slid a bit the past few years, a fresh start might be a good thing for the program.
Yup, I think that's probably part of it. I'd guess the window for Foster ever being a HC is probably just about closed now. That's one thing about being too choosy or waiting on a coach who may take awhile to leave. Maybe he was happy being only a DC and if that's the case that's fine but if he had dreams of being a HC the time may have passed now. Sometimes have to take the shot while your star is bright.
As for his future as HC let's look at his pedigree. Played in college, coached in pros, part of Harbaugh tree and took over as OC at Stanford when Shaw elevated to HC. For the past 3 years continued to develop Luck and lead one of the most explosive offenses in football. In fact, until Luck started throwing INTs this year Pep was being talked about as a possible NFL head coach. By the way, how did he perform as OC when they rolled out a 40 year Hasselbeck this year and managed to go 2-0?
So, unless you only want someone who has prior HC experience please explain what he is missing?
So, unless you only want someone who has prior HC experience please explain what he is missing?
I believe he turned down the Vandy HC job which Mason got to remain OC with the Colts. He got interviewed by Oakland and Buffalo. I'm guessing he was thinking his NFL HC prospects or college HC prospects were better because his star was rising but now little shine has been taken off with the firing.
I should probably not admit this but when I hear this name I can't help but think about Tom Hanks role in the 1980s movie "Dragnet".
I always think of Pepper Brooks:
I think it's a stretch to say he was with Luck for every stage of his development. He was his OC for 1 year at Stanford when Luck was already an established talent. And then yes with him for 3 of his 4 years in Indy. The question is did he develop him into the player he is today? Or did he ride the Andrew Luck train to success? I think it's fair to say he had some influence but how much is the question. And he sure seems to be struggling after 3 years with Pep in the NFL. Pep's fault? Probably not entirely but if he gets credit he needs to get criticism too.
How do we think McDaniels would look with a QB like Luck? His career doesn't really tells me anything about his ability to be a HC of a major college football program. He was an OC for one year in college with a great QB.
Would he be a bad hire? I'm not saying that. He's worth looking at. He might be a good hire but you set the bar at "an absolute home run hire" - he's not that. And he presents some legitimate questions.
And you want to give Pep his credit for the last few years but yet say Pagano is terrible. Well Pagano has been 11-5 for three straight years in Indy.
Yes we need to do a "Nebraska" let Bo go, for a Riley.
Do you really see something in PJ? he may be able to recruit better then the other B class coaches in the MAC but he has yet to out coach any MAC coach.
More to a HC at a P5 school then youthful energy and enthusiasm.
I will say, if we're going the successful-college-coach-failed-NFL-re-tread route, Doug Marrone should be considered. He burned some bridges in the NFL when he quit on his team (Bills). Supposedly he thought the Jets job was in the bag but his interview reportedly was awful. Northeast ties and obviously recruited the area.
Doug did such a good job at Syracuse.
He was the first to push the fruit down the hill of irrelevance
Sorry Marrone is not an improvement he is a bad move Hell Schiano out coached him and you want to put him up against Meyer, Harbough and Franklin.
OK 1 out of 3 is beatable for Doug.
He was the first to push the fruit down the hill of irrelevance
Sorry Marrone is not an improvement he is a bad move Hell Schiano out coached him and you want to put him up against Meyer, Harbough and Franklin.
OK 1 out of 3 is beatable for Doug.
Except Schiano didn't outcoach him:
2009: 31-13 Syracuse
2010: 13-10 Syracuse
2011: 19-16 (2OT) Rutgers
2012: 23-15 Rutgers (Flood)
Marrone would be an improvement. He has head coaching experience. At the highest level.
He's probably out of the budget so our argument is likely moot, but still feel he ought to be mentioned in a thread like this.
2009: 31-13 Syracuse
2010: 13-10 Syracuse
2011: 19-16 (2OT) Rutgers
2012: 23-15 Rutgers (Flood)
Marrone would be an improvement. He has head coaching experience. At the highest level.
He's probably out of the budget so our argument is likely moot, but still feel he ought to be mentioned in a thread like this.
