what coach is worth $10m ?
http://www.addictedtoquack.com/2016...illion-per-year-on-new-football-coach?ref=yfp
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Phil Knight might spend $10 M on a new coach for Oregon
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He has donated a lot more money to other worthy causes. Why can't he do it all, he's rich enough. I think there's a cancer institute he donated 100 million to at Oregon. Found this article, sounds like he's doing something similar to the Buffett pledge. I don't see why an ultra rich person shouldn't be able to donate to whatever charitable whim/hobby they have. It's not like he just inherited this money either he built the company.
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2016/04/phil_knight_charity.html
As to the subject of the post, I mentioned in the other thread that I don't see too many worthy of it and that will turn you into an instant contender. Those who would like Saban, Harbaugh, Meyer aren't leaving their spots. A reunion with Chip Kelly would be good if they could pull that off, get him a top DC and then I think you have strong combo. Stoops at Oklahoma? Maybe if you reunited him with Venables at Clemson. Outside of that I don't know, you'll have a lot of takers for the money but not sure how many realistic options there are though that will actually have a strong chance for delivering the results. I think Harbaugh turning around Michigan so quickly in addition to his age probably spurred those feelings.
http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2016/04/phil_knight_charity.html
As to the subject of the post, I mentioned in the other thread that I don't see too many worthy of it and that will turn you into an instant contender. Those who would like Saban, Harbaugh, Meyer aren't leaving their spots. A reunion with Chip Kelly would be good if they could pull that off, get him a top DC and then I think you have strong combo. Stoops at Oklahoma? Maybe if you reunited him with Venables at Clemson. Outside of that I don't know, you'll have a lot of takers for the money but not sure how many realistic options there are though that will actually have a strong chance for delivering the results. I think Harbaugh turning around Michigan so quickly in addition to his age probably spurred those feelings.
Saban will always be the highest paid coach no matter what due to his contract terms that automatically make him the highest paid coach if someone's salary exceeds his.
He would be worth it I would say. Harbaugh/Meyer also. They are bringing way more in than they are taking. The price of a great coach is heavy but what comes back in return is a lot more.
He would be worth it I would say. Harbaugh/Meyer also. They are bringing way more in than they are taking. The price of a great coach is heavy but what comes back in return is a lot more.
What happens if say urban Meyer puts the same clause in his contract that states he has to be the highest paid coach? Would both guys just keep getting raises in perpetuity ?
If I was Oregon I would bring back chip . That coach they got now is their Kyle flood.
Phil Knight is a very powerful man. I remember reading a story about a tug a war he was having with OU President over an AD. In the end the AD lost his job and the President stepped down a year or so later.
Can we get a Phil Knight here at Rutgers?
Can we get a Phil Knight here at Rutgers?
His net Worth is 23.7 billion USD
$10 Million to him is like $10 dollars to us or 10 cents.
I am not good at math, but LOL, it is drop in the bucket.
$10 Million to him is like $10 dollars to us or 10 cents.
I am not good at math, but LOL, it is drop in the bucket.
I guess 50-50, the Hoke hire as DC was extremely questionable IMO what the heck was Helfrich thinking. You've got Nike money probably giving you a nice budget for a coordinator and that's what you come up with. That's a big strike on Helfrich. Getting to a title game recently is a plus. I suppose it depends on Knight's desperation if these rumors are true and the reality of what candidates are available that are actually worth that much.
I know it sounds crazy but Oregon could be middle of the pack in the pecking order of available jobs. Agree on DC. Although some might consider it a bad job because your D is on the field so much
Knight just gave $500 million to Oregon for a science school. But, no matter how wealthy he is, paying $10 M to a college coach is absurd and just highlights the inequities in college football, as players play only for a scholarship.
I haven't really thought about which jobs will come open but just as a program, it's probably just below the top tier blue bloods. The blue bloods have long histories and tradition which Oregon doesn't but it has the money, facilities, flash and every thing else.
You know I'm high on Aranda, so I would have tried for him. He turned down going to Oregon State with Andersen but for the money Oregon could have offered him, who knows. He's getting 1.3M at LSU now. I'm not sure which offer might have come first. He's from the west coast (California IIRC) so who knows and Oregon is a much better job than Oregon State. He has been a DC for a spread offense before too at Hawaii likely and at Utah State.
Yup. Not a bad investment when you buy a team and they're basically a walking and talking billboard for you. Especially since he gets to change their uniforms more than a Chameleon changing color while walking through a Jason Pollock painting.
It's his money if he wants to pay that much, he's entitled. It's not absurd if the person could deliver what a Nick Saban has or Urban has throughout their careers. That kind of exposure/publicity/good will is worth a lot. Thing is there aren't that many of those kind of coaches out there.
As to the players, well no one forces them to play. They're not drafted. If they don't like the system don't take part. They put in a lot of sweat equity no doubt, but they also receive benefits as well, from the scholarship, to the recent stipends, to the connections made and to be set up to start their lives debt free (with skyrocketing tuition these days, that's a big thing). They put in a lot of work but if used correctly it can lead to great start in life.
CFB is going from colleges with football teams to football teams with colleges
It would be the same as
$10 to someone who's net worth is $23,700
$1 to someone who's net worth is $2,370
10 cents to someone who's net worth is $237
1 cent to someone who's net worth is $23.70
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Focus on college guys here, but $10 mill could buy an NFL guy, past or present. Pete Carroll would seem the right resume and fit and makes $8 with Seattle. No idea if that's even a faint possibility but seems like the caliber of guy Knight would be looking for when floating $10 million.
The coach he pays is worth it. That's what people with fu money do. Buy what they want.
Stated a little differently:
As a percentage of his wealth, he is allocating 10,000,000 ÷ 23,000,000,000 = 0.0004347826
Which means he is dishing what would be like $434 to those of us worth $1,000,000. Not very impressive.
Not as familiar with NFL coaches but Carroll did cross my mind and I think he'd be worth it too. But I'm also not sure how likely it would be that he would leave Seattle, similar to Saban/Meyer/Harbaugh. I think he makes around 8M and has done well there, is there any motivation to leave for 2M extra? Anything is possible but I tend to think not.
I read story that said Adam Schefter said sources close to Chip Kelly say he has no interest in returning to college or Oregon but that he did have Knight at a 49ers game as his guest so there's still speculation over him.
I'm guessing most of the top NFL coaches already make in th 6-7M range. While 10M is pretty big raise percentage wise is the extra say 16M over the life of a 4yr contract enough of an incentive to leave when you're likely already a multimillionaire many times over. Does that person want to bother to deal with all the other ancillary stuff outside of football that you have to do in college? I think that's usually the bane of quite of few of those top coaches.
I don't think he's worth 10M but I think Les Miles would be a good choice. The big IF would be if he's willing to change and be paired with a more innovative OC, I think he could do well there with that. He's been a top recruiter and maybe he could pull some of that top southern talent to Oregon, add that to California recruiting grounds and you got a good shot. Maybe if a hot shot offensive HC like say a Kliff Kingsbury were to be let go, use some of that "leftover" money to pair Miles with someone like that as OC and I think you got a shot. If Briles wasn't so radioactive, he'd be a possibility as a OC he's certainly not getting a HC job any time soon. 5M for Miles, 1.5-2.5M for both coordinators and away you go. That kind of scenario seems more plausible then the reality of actually finding a coach who would be worth 10M and make you an instant contender.
Just found this article, sounds like he's more open to being more innovative on offense and seems eager to coach again next year.
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...e-defensive-coordinators-return-coaching-2017
I read story that said Adam Schefter said sources close to Chip Kelly say he has no interest in returning to college or Oregon but that he did have Knight at a 49ers game as his guest so there's still speculation over him.
I'm guessing most of the top NFL coaches already make in th 6-7M range. While 10M is pretty big raise percentage wise is the extra say 16M over the life of a 4yr contract enough of an incentive to leave when you're likely already a multimillionaire many times over. Does that person want to bother to deal with all the other ancillary stuff outside of football that you have to do in college? I think that's usually the bane of quite of few of those top coaches.
I don't think he's worth 10M but I think Les Miles would be a good choice. The big IF would be if he's willing to change and be paired with a more innovative OC, I think he could do well there with that. He's been a top recruiter and maybe he could pull some of that top southern talent to Oregon, add that to California recruiting grounds and you got a good shot. Maybe if a hot shot offensive HC like say a Kliff Kingsbury were to be let go, use some of that "leftover" money to pair Miles with someone like that as OC and I think you got a shot. If Briles wasn't so radioactive, he'd be a possibility as a OC he's certainly not getting a HC job any time soon. 5M for Miles, 1.5-2.5M for both coordinators and away you go. That kind of scenario seems more plausible then the reality of actually finding a coach who would be worth 10M and make you an instant contender.
Just found this article, sounds like he's more open to being more innovative on offense and seems eager to coach again next year.
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...e-defensive-coordinators-return-coaching-2017
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I always found Oregon to have a gimmicky offense. It was good enough to get to a championship game but not good enough to close the deal, so to speak. They came close against Auburn but got blown out against OSU.
If they made it on a budget like ours I would Crown them the sentimental National Champions but they (Oregon) throw buckets of money at their football program.
If they made it on a budget like ours I would Crown them the sentimental National Champions but they (Oregon) throw buckets of money at their football program.
Yup. Really thought hard about that this weekend. Listen I dont like the EVERYONE gets a trophy world, but the playing field in theory should be somewhat level. CFB is far from a level playing field when you have guys like Saban and Harbaugh making over $7M per year. NFL coaches don't even make that. I hate what the NFL has turned into over the past 10 years or so but at least it's competitive. Ohio State just beat Nebraska 62-3. Michigan's average margin of victory is 38 points.
The margin between the haves and have nots is growing infinitely wider.
Perspective: Tom Coughlin is a 2-time super bowl champion head coach who could possibly wind up in Canton. He was coaching an NFL flagship franchise in the premier media market in the country and he didn't come close to making $10M per year. This is getting ridiculous and I'm seriously thinking about giving up on college sports all together.
There are definitely haves and have nots but I feel like the playing field is closer now than before. When have we seen so many small schools over the years rise up to the top perennially. It's not even surprising any more see it happen. Now with the newer tv deals that gulf may widen again but at least in recent history I've felt there has been more of opportunity for schools farther down the totem pole to compete, get exposure and get their names out there.
There is certainly a shock value to the numbers but at the same time I've always said there's point of diminishing returns with each additional dollar spent. There's only so much you can spend on that's really adding extra value to a program. There's still a limit to the number of scholarships you can hand out, so the talent still has to distribute to get a chance to play. The exposure is also more wide spread than before.
It's like when people complain about our revenue share timetable and how we'll fall way behind our B10 colleagues. Yea it would be great to get it quicker but just by being in the B10 and getting the exposure and money over time adds more value to us than it does to teams that have had those benefits over us all along. The return on every dollar spent and exposure given is less for those guys as compared to us. So we're not really as far behind as the numbers may indicate.
Same idea for throwing around these millions of dollars for coaches. What has Texas gotten so far with the 5M it threw at Strong? You can throw around as much money as you want but there are still only a handful of winners. The SEC's average is probably over 4M now but they all can't win so what's the money really returning to some of those schools.
There is certainly a shock value to the numbers but at the same time I've always said there's point of diminishing returns with each additional dollar spent. There's only so much you can spend on that's really adding extra value to a program. There's still a limit to the number of scholarships you can hand out, so the talent still has to distribute to get a chance to play. The exposure is also more wide spread than before.
It's like when people complain about our revenue share timetable and how we'll fall way behind our B10 colleagues. Yea it would be great to get it quicker but just by being in the B10 and getting the exposure and money over time adds more value to us than it does to teams that have had those benefits over us all along. The return on every dollar spent and exposure given is less for those guys as compared to us. So we're not really as far behind as the numbers may indicate.
Same idea for throwing around these millions of dollars for coaches. What has Texas gotten so far with the 5M it threw at Strong? You can throw around as much money as you want but there are still only a handful of winners. The SEC's average is probably over 4M now but they all can't win so what's the money really returning to some of those schools.
