Play calling

[zappaa]

not enough deception IMO.
I understand lack of talent,
what I don't like is making it easy on the defense.
You MUST throw on first down, and if it's incomplete, throw on second down.

Just my opinion.

 

[Abro1975]

not enough deception IMO.
I understand lack of talent,
what I don't like is making it easy on the defense.
You MUST throw on first down, and if it's incomplete, throw on second down.

Just my opinion.

Agreed 100 per cent. Mehringer seems like he's in over his head.

1-17 on third downs. Wow

 

[mildone]

not enough deception IMO.
I understand lack of talent,
what I don't like is making it easy on the defense.
You MUST throw on first down, and if it's incomplete, throw on second down.

Just my opinion.

I thought the offensive play calling was just fine. The execution was painfully bad. From messed up timing before plays, to poor blocking up front, to WRs ongoing inability to gain separation, the players just weren't getting the plays executed.

 

[zappaa]

I thought the offensive play calling was just fine. The execution was painfully bad. From messed up timing before plays, to poor blocking up front, to WRs ongoing inability to gain separation, the players just weren't getting the plays executed.

Yes, I agree, but again in my opinion, defense is easier to play when you're predictable

 

[djrc89]

I'm really not sure. A schiano and flood staple was actually throwing deep from deep in ur own territory. We actually had surprisingly great success doing that. Truth is we were just outplayed today. Both of their lines were considerably better. Game was only close bc of turnovers. Part of the process is learning how to win. Indiana won that kind of game today. Hopefully we get there soon enough.

 

[shields]

Agree, and we ran the ball in 3rd quarter and it was always 3rd and 10.

 

[zappaa]

Ball on the one, if they have 8 in the box and you're going to throw on 3rd down, why not take a chance. All we did was set ourselves up to punt into the wind.

 

[GeorgeStreet]

The bubble screen pass has been the worst play in RU's playbook for at least the past 15 years. Yet here is Mehringer still trying it again and again, for more and more yards lost.

That's the definition of insanity.

 

[mildone]

Yes, I agree, but again in my opinion, defense is easier to play when you're predictable

That's true. But I don't think the play calling is intended to be so predictable. I think it looks predictable because of the poor execution. I failed to DVR the game so I can't go back and look at the mix of plays.

 

[jtung230]

The bubble screen pass has been the worst play in RU's playbook for at least the past 15 years. Yet here is Mehringer still trying it again and again, for more and more yards lost.

That's the definition of insanity.

He did change it up by throwing it to a slower WR for the bubble screen.

 

[zappaa]

That's true. But I don't think the play calling is intended to be so predictable. I think it looks predictable because of the poor execution. I failed to DVR the game so I can't go back and look at the mix of plays.

Running for no yards on first down sets up the obvious blitz situation every time… and we can't handle it every time.
Once you establish you can't run, which we did, you've got to pick a down to throw where they aren't in full pressure mode.
That's first down, get 5 or six yards...that makes 2nd down hard to defend.

 

[RUJMM78]

More than one factor explains the woeful second half offense.Lack of talent,poor play calling,poor blocking, Gio lack of mobility and poor field position all contributed to the stagnant offense.

 

[j10oreo]

The execution was the worst part by far in my opinion. You probably couldn't tell the difference if we knew how to catch a ball or shed a tackle (edit: OR STAY INBOUNDS). Be glad this isn't a vanilla offense where it's run run pass punt type of series mainly out of a power formation.

 

[ru1869]

Ash needs to fire the OC, the DB coach, and the Special Teams coach.

Otherwise he will be on the hot seat soon.

All three of them stink!!

 

[RU31trap]

The play calling is what it is because they're second guessing themselves. I know many think I'm nuts but I honestly believe we will be much improved next year. It's not going to take much improvement. I see a 6-6 finish and in 2018 we will respected, yes, that includes the big boys.

 

[RUinOhio]

agree, too vanilla. Was fine in the 1st Q, then it was too conservative....Indiana was stacking the box because RU tried almost nothing deep after the long TD. It's easy to defend the run and short passing game with everyone close to the LOS

not enough deception IMO.
I understand lack of talent,
what I don't like is making it easy on the defense.
You MUST throw on first down, and if it's incomplete, throw on second down.

Just my opinion.

 

[REDRICH65]

Why no designed Gio runs. Just to vanilla in the run game.

 

[ru1869]

Why no designed Gio runs. Just to vanilla in the run game.

Gio was not 100% so his running was limited.

But when you have a critical play where you need to get yards, you don't call a running play that crosses the backfield and takes a long time to develop!!!

No common sense to his play calling.

Can he just have the Frig on the phone and ask him what to call??

 

[RUsince52]

The bubble screen pass has been the worst play in RU's playbook for at least the past 15 years. Yet here is Mehringer still trying it again and again, for more and more yards lost.

That's the definition of insanity.

HS teams run it better than us. We must be practicing it too much.

 

[rufeelinit]

Of Gio can't run I am not sure he is a big improvement over Laviano. Of course the OL had a very rough day which certainly makes it difficult to execute. Just a total mess most of the day.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

not enough deception IMO.
I understand lack of talent,
what I don't like is making it easy on the defense.
You MUST throw on first down, and if it's incomplete, throw on second down.

Just my opinion.

Agreed

But The playbook was cut down a lot with Gio playing on a bad wheel.

I say this until the cows come home

If the Qb cannot run in this offense ...the running game is in big trouble unless you have a top end oline

Get Gio healthy (and eventually another Qb with depth) and that equation changes down the road

And then we can really see what merringer is or isn't

 

[LotusAggressor]

It's hard to judge offensive strategy when you can't match up in the trenches. The best play call won't work if no one gets blocked.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Maybe we should all take into account that the only QB we have with a pulse, for now, is still playing injured and it was VERY obvious that it affected the playcalling today.

 

[Scarlet_Monster]

Gio was not 100% so his running was limited.

But when you have a critical play where you need to get yards, you don't call a running play that crosses the backfield and takes a long time to develop!!!

No common sense to his play calling.

Can he just have the Frig on the phone and ask him what to call??

I don't know, when Gio had to run to get away from pressure he looked nimble enough. Maybe not as fast as he was when completely healthy, but fast enough to get away from a few defenders.

 

[ScarletCrimson]

painful. . .

 

[G- RUnit]

Hard to not question coaching when 1 for 17 on 3rd downs. O.C . in over head.

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Running for no yards on first down sets up the obvious blitz situation every time… and we can't handle it every time.
Once you establish you can't run, which we did, you've got to pick a down to throw where they aren't in full pressure mode.
That's first down, get 5 or six yards...that makes 2nd down hard to defend.

I was saying during the game.. why can't I ever come away from a quarter or even a series thinking my coaches are better than the other team's coaches?

There have been glimpses here and there of making a good adjustment.. or a great call.. but the overall impression is that other guys have planned for the game better than we have.

 

[RUbacker]

The play calling is what it is because they're second guessing themselves. I know many think I'm nuts but I honestly believe we will be much improved next year. It's not going to take much improvement. I see a 6-6 finish and in 2018 we will respected, yes, that includes the big boys.

Stop predicting next year

 

[wheezer]

not enough deception IMO.
I understand lack of talent,
what I don't like is making it easy on the defense.
You MUST throw on first down, and if it's incomplete, throw on second down.

Just my opinion.

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You throw when least expected, and that would be on first down... much less chance of a blitz, of course, and you probably are facing a run defense... so agreed.

 

[wheezer]

Running for no yards on first down sets up the obvious blitz situation every time… and we can't handle it every time.
Once you establish you can't run, which we did, you've got to pick a down to throw where they aren't in full pressure mode.
That's first down, get 5 or six yards...that makes 2nd down hard to defend.

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The common man watches a game like today's and remembers this missed pass and that missed pass, then thinking the qb had a bad game..... what he should be looking at more closely is the failed running play on first down that sets us up for the second and third down failure.
So agreed with your premise here..... the game was lost on first down, for the most part.

 

[RUbacker]

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The common man watches a game like today's and remembers this missed pass and that missed pass, then thinking the qb had a bad game..... what he should be looking at more closely is the failed running play on first down that sets us up for the second and third down failure.
So agreed with your premise here..... the game was lost on first down, for the most part.

Yes us commoners.

 

[wheezer]

Yes us commoners.

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I should have said "the peasants". Lol

 

[RUBigFrank]

Last series of the third quarter we should have run the ball to close out the quarter so we can punt with the wind-instead we passed punted in the wind which stuck us with the horrible field position in the fourth quarter.

to exacerbate the mistake we got too conservative deep in our territory from the end zone