POLL: Who/What bears greater responsibility for our offensive struggles?

[zazoo2002]

We all presumably knew that the combination of a new staff and schematics was going to make this a difficult year. That said, I like the progress that has been made on the defensive side of the ball. The ineffectiveness on offense however has been a bit disappointing. I realize that we're installing a new offense and have an extremely young first time OC. (Given Ash's defensive specialties, the OC hire was a bit of a head scratcher. Nothing against Drew, as he seems to be destined for an extremely bright future; just think someone more seasoned - budget permitting - would have been better suited for this situation.) Case in point, 4 trips to the red zone against IOWA, who NW scored against at will, and only 7 pts to show for the team's hard-fought efforts.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

The guys who recruited for the previous 4 years.

 

[brgRC90]

Just stop. Please. 5 games.

 

[zazoo2002]

I realize that's it's only 5 games and opinions can be fluid. But there's been a lot of discussion on the boards about our offensive struggles, so I thought I would create a poll - snap shot - of where the fans stand.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Need "recruiting" on there IMHO.

 

[Knight Shift]

As usual, things are not as simple as most fans want them. brgRC90 had it right.
Here is a breakdown:

Washington:

Howard- Offense did not struggle

New Mexico- Offense did not struggle

Iowa: scheme, execution, personnel (especially after losing Grant).

Ohio State:

To be continued . . . . .

 

[jtung230]

Conclusion, if we are much better than the other teams, we will score and the offense will be fine. If other teams is half way decent, we are screwed. That's great coaching.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Conclusion, if we are much better than the other teams, we will score and the offense will be fine. If other teams is half way decent, we are screwed. That's great coaching.

Bullshit. If Laviano puts the ball into Harris' arms on 2 wide-open routes, and pitches to him on 4th, we roll Iowa last week. Play calls were there, D was great, just didn't execute.

 

[jtung230]

Bullshit. If Laviano puts the ball into Harris' arms on 2 wide-open routes, and pitches to him on 4th, we roll Iowa last week. Play calls were there, D was great, just didn't execute.

I guess my reply to that is the coaches picked Laviano as the QB.

 

[MozRU]

The guys who recruited for the previous 4 years.

Cell Blook R did remind me, that the Sr on this team came from GS.

 

[Blitz Pakage]

Bullshit. If Laviano puts the ball into Harris' arms on 2 wide-open routes, and pitches to him on 4th, we roll Iowa last week. Play calls were there, D was great, just didn't execute.

Absolutely Nuts! Coaches can only call the plays . The players must execute them. Just a blown opportunity against the Hawkeyes. In a couple of years you will win these types of games, if you don't, that's when you can judge our Coaching staff. But not now!

 

[RU#1fan]

One TD in the last 10 Quaters of football.
Continued same play calling . RB runs up the middle only or passing routes East and West only.
Not to hard to figure out.
F on schematics.
F on execution.

 

[devoted2ru]

We run up the middle so much because our QB has trouble getting a pass of even a few yards to our receivers. The OC knows this and that has a real impact on what can be called on offense, since even the simplistic throws DM calls for are often very off the mark. -And the reason Laviano is starting isn't because he's particularly good in a real game situation. He has the job because Oden, who's much better suited for the power spread, isn't physically ready yet to be given the opportunity to run the show for a whole game, and CL is, apparently, the best of whatever else we have available.

 

[oldtimer67]

First of all, the question says "who" so the choices should be people not things. Second of all, I don't know how you separate execution from personnel. The most common cause of poor execution is poor personnel.

How about a better poll?

 

[RU#1fan]

Then if you don't have the personnel you don't implement a Spread Offense in your first year.

 

[bac2therac]

quarterback

 

[jakeknight]

God, just give it a rest, have a little patience and try not to second guess everything that goes on in the football program. Nobody ever promised immediate success.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Then if you don't have the personnel you don't implement a Spread Offense in your first year.

Catch 22. You need to run the offense you are trying to build and recruit for. If you run a pro set, you are a pro set "guy" and the recruits will see it as such. Fans need to have positivity and patience. You cant accomplish this inside of one season.

Some of the fans here are unreal with the expectations. What have we honestly ever done that made you thing any coach could fix this in half a season? Of course I know its hard to be patient, but come on. Wait to see how the team looks after the Michigan game before questioning everything.

 

[greenknight]

I guess my reply to that is the coaches picked Laviano as the QB.

You do realize if there was a better option. They would already be starting. Some shold think before they type. It will be sooner than later when that happens

 

[jtung230]

You do realize if there was a better option. They would already be starting. Some shold think before they type. It will be sooner than later when that happens

I realize that there has to be someone that can PRODUCE more. CL's issue is in his head. Can't correct that in practice.

 

[RU#1fan]

You do realize if there was a better option. They would already be starting. Some shold think before they type. It will be sooner than later when that happens

How do you know there is not a better option ?
Has anyone (including our Coaching Staff) seen Retig or Gio in a real game situation ?
Don't count useless QB only runs as "mop up duty" against FCS bottom dweller Howard team.

Can't be any worse than our g-d awful starter now.

 

[needmorecowbell]

How do you know there is not a better option ?
Has anyone (including our Coaching Staff) seen Retig or Gio in a real game situation ?
Don't count useless QB only runs as "mop up duty" against FCS bottom dweller Howard team.

Can't be any worse than our g-d awful starter now.

The professional coaches watch them every day for the last year. But of course the fans know better.

 

[G- RUnit]

Like Tom Brady.

 

[miketd1]

Chip Kelly himself can't beat a team with a significant talent advantage, particularly at D line.

Rarely did it at Oregon.

Rarely did it in Philly.

He didn't go from offensive wizard to unoriginal/clueless overnight.

He needs talent and his arrogance of thinking he can simply plug anyone into his system and have success is his downfall.

 

[RUinPAC10land]

Offense struggled to produce in the three games against power 5 teams. The QB position is not FBS caliber at the time. Oden can be but his body ("not enough as#") is not ready for it yet. We don't know about Rettig and we will never know.

 

[RUsince52]

Then if you don't have the personnel you don't implement a Spread Offense in your first year.

It might not be pretty, but you use what you have differently. You had spring and fall practice to actually see where you stand and adjust accordingly. After 5 games you should have an indication of what you look like on offense, not what you want to do. Can't fix it if you don't have guys to run it. Waiting for Oden to develope isn't even a stopgap and it's hard to believe that's the solution.
Just going to be a long season with a lot of valleys and very few peaks.

 

[G- RUnit]

RBs, Martin and Hicks are D1 caliber. Good OC is flexible and works with his stengths until he has his pieces in place.

 

[miketd1]

RBs, Martin and Hicks are D1 caliber. Good OC is flexible and works with his stengths until he has his pieces in place.

What would you do differently?

 

[G- RUnit]

What would you do differently?

First and goal against Iowa I would give Martin a shot rather than Oden 2x for starters? First real pitch play of year? Oden inside and Laviano outside? Vice versa?

 

[miketd1]

First and goal against Iowa I would give Martin a shot rather than Oden 2x for starters? First real pitch play of year? Oden inside and Laviano outside? Vice versa?

Fair & I agree.

 

[TM514]

A huddle would be nice to use the clock and get the play straight. I vote schematic.

 

[imbazza2]

Our OC was schooled by Schiano and the D this past Saturday
DM predictability in his play calling played right into osu's hands.
He is a young OC who like everyone else on this team is learning on the job, it is expensive process; and will take time. Schiano 2001-2003 had many expensive lessons
for all the doom and gloom fans, know after this week's game we will have played 3 of the top 5 teams in the nation. REMEMBER all the fans screaming at Schiano for scheduling all the cupcake games. Well not so much any more

 

[ScarletStateofNJ]

Rutgers is 116th out of 128 teams in yards per game. There are only 4 P5 teams with fewer yards per game.

 

[FELONIOUSMONK]

The offense..:boxing:

 

[RUwilsonNC]

1. schematics (i.e.,trying to fit square pegs into round holes) = coaching
2. personnel - being square pegs
3. execution - cause they're not that good at fitting into round holes

Coaches are not playing to the strengths of their players - let the QB drop back more often

 

[zazoo2002]

Bump.