President Biden: How Would America Be Different?

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  1. colbert17

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    Let's assume for the moment that all the polls are correct. Joe Biden becomes the Democrat nominee and defeats President Trump. What will be different about America? What will change?
    Please don't give me the tired old bromides about a respect for the office, a return to dignity and that kind of stuff.
    What would be different in terms of economic, domestic and foreign policy?
    Not a trick question or trying to be cute (even though everyone says I am) just looking to my friends on the left to give me some reason to vote for Good Old Joe.
    He's not President Trump does not qualify as an answer.
     
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    1) he’d get the Nobel Prize for getting elected.

    2) He’s do an Obama Apology Tour 2 but he’d fluck it up even more.

    3) he’d be the last rational Dem Presidential Candidate to be elected and his centrist natural inclinations will empower the looney left socialists to get even more militant. Deepening the divides in our country between the coasts and the interior.

    4) he would start off his administration in a recession and blame it all on Trump. Big government programs and payments to all victim groups will be his answer and that’ll lead to permanent 1.9% growth and National Debt of $30 trillion. But that won’t be enough for the socialism drivers who will be his worst enemy.


    None of this will really happen because Joe Biden isn’t going to be the Dem Nominee.
     
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    He would try to end the partisanship by reaching across the aisle to try and get McConnell to work with the Dems on compromise deals.

    He would try to get compromises on:
    - Healthcare (improving the ACA)
    - Infrastructure
    - fixing the tax reform law that is highly partisan (probably raising the 10k SALT deduction to a more reasonable number)

    - he won't be successful with immigration reform unless there is something he can offer back to the GOP. The wall won't be good enough since that is a Trump thing and not a GOP thing but maybe it comes down to military and 1st responder spending. The best he may get is a path to citizenship for DACA kids if they join the military for 5 years.
    - doubt there will be any compromise on guns since the NRA is too strong
     
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    None of the usual suspects want to respond?
    Substitute the Democrat of your choice if you like. How will the policies of the US be different?
     
  5. RutgHoops

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    “Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come back from school to find that their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone.”

    ― Anne Frank, Diary of a Young Girl

    The fact that quote could be attributable to a family residing in the US in 2019 and would not be able to be attributable under a Biden Presidency is, in my opinion, the biggest change.
     
  6. i'vegotwinners

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    not the change most Dem voters want.

    get Bernie or Liz in there, and they will push for real change.

    more affordable and universal healthcare would be the big change if Bernie or Liz won, and got it through congress.

    higher min wage would be the next biggest change.

    for the rich, they'll pay more taxes, but those in that bracket will see virtually zero difference in lifestyle, only in score keeping.

    any working Joe or Jill who isn't backing Bernie or Liz, is a total moron.
     
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    In addition the unhinged propaganda would be taken down several notches. It will be much easier to bring people together once the outrageous commentary decreases.
     
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    Utter bullshit. Sorry but comparing this situation to Nazi Germany. You are better than that
     
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    “Utter bullshit” ? Really? Are men, women and children of the same family not being separated on US soil by US law enforcement?
     
  10. bac2therac

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    We have laws..you want open borders..no one is forcing these families to come...yes or no
     
  11. RutgHoops

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    The fact you don’t care it is happening is a very different statement than it isn’t happening. Just to be clear
     
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    Weren’t they under an Obama Biden administration also? And Clinton too?
     
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    I'm a moderate Dem. Thanks for the name calling, very Trump-like. If you think that either Bernie or Warren will defeat Trump, you deserve another four years of Trump. Biden is the only possibility if your goal is to defeat Trump, but being self-righteous is probability what you're after.
     
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    I do not believe the US has ever had a policy (emphasis on the word “policy”) of family separation until 2018. Even the Japanese Internment camps of the 1940’s did not, as policy, separate families.
     
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    We are really at an inflection point regarding presidential politics. We have essentially elected two “celebrities” over the past three cycles. Does America want to go back to a run-of-the-mill politician? Or, it’s going to be about extreme views and histrionics?

    Let’s face it, the next president (a Dem or Trump) in 2020 is going to have to deal with some level of a recession. Whoever it is, they are not going to be popular.
     
  16. MadRU

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    Policy and practice are 2 different things. And forgive me if I’m wrong the policy was put into place to stop human trafficking especially of children. Once they are verified correct action is followed.
     
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    You’re forgiven. You’re wrong.

    The policy was put in place as a deterrent.

    “Cross our border and get caught, we’ll take your children from you”
     
  18. MadRU

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    Quote?
     
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    @MadRU, I apologize you are going to catch my ire here as you seem like a good guy, but the fact any Trump supporter would not know this while blindly supporting this policy is disgraceful.

    "Attorney General Jeff Sessions said the U.S. will take a stricter stance on illegal crossings at the Mexico border by separating parents from children, rather than keeping them together in detention centers.

    “If you are smuggling a child then we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law,” Sessions said Monday at a law enforcement event in Scottsdale, Ariz. “If you don’t like that, then don’t smuggle children over our border.”


    https://time.com/5268572/jeff-sessions-illegal-border-separated/
     
  20. Caliknight

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    This biggest change is that bumbling hair sniffing good would make us the laughing stock of the world instead of the alpha we are now.
     
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    Obviously speaking about children that aren’t theirs. Child sex operators for instance.

    But even so, it is no big deal. People who commit crimes are separated from their children daily. Jails are full of them.
     
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    Don't be a f--king moron.

    ""Attorney General Jeff Sessions said the U.S. will take a stricter stance on illegal crossings at the Mexico border by separating parents from children..."
     
  23. MadRU

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    The policy was already reversed and the practice was going on for many many years.

    I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016.
     
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    He doesn’t know any other way to be.
     
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    That’s ok, it’s a reasonable discussion and appreciate different views. As I just posted the policy was already reversed and the practice has been going on for many many years which includes when Biden was VP.
     
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    Policy is very different from practice. In my opinion.

    Our "practices" have segregated affluent from non-affluent communities, white and black communities, etc. Its a whole other kettle of fish to have a policy that segregates affluent from non-affluent, black from white, etc. I don't find either particularly "good", but I do find one much more distasteful than the other.
     
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    If the policy and practice are to make sure children are not being abused and/or trafficked, better safe than sorry. If the policy was purely for deterrent then I agree with you. But my understanding was it was in place to stop human/children trafficking.

    To me if the results of a policy and practice are the same, I see no difference.

    Don’t think we are thinking that differently though. Good discussion, thanks to the OP.
     
  28. Caliknight

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    Like I said, that happens every day when people break the law.
     
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    Lol, someone got fvcked on those flight delays yesterday. Since you asked, I had a great one. Second lowest score ever which followed a rather fruitful meeting.

    Get some rest, Monday is right around the corner.
     
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    They might be but they do not “reside” in the US, they are illegal visitors
     
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    Getting the second lowest IQ score isn’t something to brag about, is it?
     
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    All that's necessary to defeat Warren or Sanders is to publish Delaney's spreadsheet.
     
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    Nope. At least you weren’t last.
     
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    No one is forcing them to come and get separated..you want open borders..i dont..fact
     
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    Yes and have been every day for the last 300 years as people go to prison.

    Why do you ask?
     
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    Been to the West Bank two of the past three days. Don't argue with me about the need for borders or why they are important. Separating children from parents is a "red line". Period. If it isn't yours, it isn't yours. That is your prerogative.
     
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    It’s quite simple. Follow the law and you can stay with your kids. If they are so concerned they can set up camp in Mexico and start their new lives there.
     
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    I’ll leave my argument where I started it:

    “Families are torn apart; men, women and children are separated. Children come back from school finding their parents have disappeared. Women return from shopping to find their houses sealed, their families gone”

    -Anne Frank
     
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    actually, someone is.

    and we're partly responsible for that.

    that's what you just don't get.

    i get it, it's all about you.

    that said, have immigrants ever negatively impacted you ever in the slightest?

    and you self servingly somehow think you "deserve" to be here and they don't.

    news flash dude, you never did anything in your life to deserve to be here. you just totally lucked out, like everybody else born here.
     
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    that's the BS that's been fed to Dem voters for decades, and cost us the last prez election..

    what you want is a Dino, so you get an economic conservative with a D on his shirt.

    i get it, 40 more yrs is your hoped for outcome.
     

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