Rankings - Inside Lacrosse Last Updated - April 9, 2018

[Caliknight]

Things have changed. The B1G is the leader now. The acc didn't get a single team in the final four last year and is 2-6 vs the B1G this year.

Syracuse wasn't in the acc when they won those championships.

 

[biazza38]

The ACC got beat up by the B1G. Cuse did them no favors losing to us and Hopkins. ND’s loss to Umich is very bad for the ACC. Virginia ahead of us is wrong.

 

[Knight Owl]

Those power ratings have Virginia ahead of Rutgers. If UVA is ahead of Rutgers in the power ratings at the end...well don't hold your breath.

UVA has one quality win vs Loyola
RU has one quaity win vs Syracuse

I agree that the BIG has done well against the ACC. But the flip side is that Hopkins losing the UNC has helped the ACC in the numbers game.

 

[Caliknight]

That was one game. The conference is 6-2 vs. the acc. Hopkins also smashed Syracuse. At Syracuse.

 

[Knight Owl]

UVA's worst loss is to bubble team Notre Dame. There are arguments both ways.

 

[Caliknight]

That's why these last games are so important. The picture will become more clear. Our SoS goes up either way today.

 

[Knight Owl]

Yes. A win at Maryland changes everything....power ratings....perception...recruiting....

A loss at Maryland and all you're still where you were for the past 2 1/2 years.

 

[Caliknight]

We weren't ranked this highly this time the last two years, and we didn't have the SoS we now have. It's not the same position at all.

 

[biazza38]

Those power ratings have Virginia ahead of Rutgers. If UVA is ahead of Rutgers in the power ratings at the end...well don't hold your breath.

UVA has one quality win vs Loyola
RU has one quaity win vs Syracuse

I agree that the BIG has done well against the ACC. But the flip side is that Hopkins losing the UNC has helped the ACC in the numbers game.

RU has one quality win? What planet are you on

 

[Knight Owl]

RU has one quality win? What planet are you on

"At-large berth worthy" team wins....RMU and Lehigh are nice...if they win their conference tourneys. Brown might not make the top 4 Ivy conference tourney.

 

[Caliknight]

You're statements have been proven incorrect. Best you let it all play out at this point.

 

[Knight Owl]

All I'm saying is you can't go 2-3 in the BIG and lose in the first round of the BIG tourney and expect to get a bid. If you get a bid that's great. The same goes for Penn State, Rutgers and Ohio State....the three most likely fourth place BIG teams.

 

[Caliknight]

That's a bubble team situation as it stands. Again, too much lacrosse left to go to make any proclamations as to what will get what. Anything can happen. RU controls it's own destiny. Let it all play out and root the team on, assuming you are an RU fan.

 

[Knight Owl]

That's a bubble team situation as it stands. Again, too much lacrosse left to go to make any proclamations as to what will get what. Anything can happen. RU controls it's own destiny. Let it all play out and root the team on, assuming you are an RU fan.

Yes a fan...just being objective. After all the automatic qualifiers (9) get their bids there isn't much left....ACC doesn't even have an auto-bid.

 

[biazza38]

Yes a fan...just being objective. After all the automatic qualifiers (9) get their bids there isn't much left....ACC doesn't even have an auto-bid.

Agree with this. The IVY looks strong this year. If the ACC gets three bids, there’s a strong possibility someone will from the IVY gets screwed. Keep an eye on the Big East and Patriot League. The Big East was a two bid and the Patriot was a one bid conference last year. We need their conference tournaments to go according to plan

 

[Caliknight]

The Ivy is better than the Acc. I think both are two bid leagues when all is said and done.

 

[Knight Owl]

Ivy could easily get three bids. Maybe four.

 

[Knight Owl]

There are three Ivy teams with better RPI's than RU right now.

 

[Knight Owl]

April is "conference month" so now the serious season starts.
Total = indicator of a teams chances to be invited to the tournament based on adding:

+ SOS * 1.00 strength of schedule (SOS)
+ QW * 1.00 quality wins(normalized to 1.0)
+ RPI * 1.00 Ratings percentage Index (RPI)
+ WRPI * 0.20 average RPI of all wins * win pct
+ LRPI * 0.20 average RPI of all losses * (1.-win pct)
+ SW * 0.01 significant win (opp. has a higher RPI)
- SL * 0.01 significant loss (opp. has a lower RPI)
+ WLP * 0.25 Win-Loss Percentage

DISCLAIMER: This prediction is an approximation subject to interpretation of NCAA
criteria and estimated weight factors. Furthermore, the NCAA committee has the
discretion to consider secondary and additional factors.

Rankings
No Team Total RPI SOS QW RPI SOS QW WRPI LRPI SW SL W L WLP

1 Maryland 2.6755 0.6838 0.6605 1.0000 1 4 1 .558 .683 0 1 10 1 0.9091
2 Albany 2.5803 0.6832 0.6621 0.8989 2 3 2 .551 .472 1 1 10 1 0.9091
3 Duke 2.4486 0.6343 0.6150 0.8989 3 16 3 .530 .619 0 2 11 2 0.8462
4 Yale 2.3877 0.6312 0.6430 0.8202 4 6 6 .531 .596 0 2 9 2 0.8182
5 Cornell 2.3694 0.6072 0.6258 0.8315 11 9 5 .514 .607 2 1 9 3 0.7500
6 Denver 2.3445 0.6041 0.5672 0.8539 12 32 4 .500 .631 1 0 9 2 0.8182
7 Syracuse 2.3328 0.6184 0.6764 0.7753 8 1 9 .535 .626 2 3 7 4 0.6364
8 Loyola 2.3088 0.6197 0.6164 0.7978 7 15 7 .516 .600 0 2 9 3 0.7500
9 Villanova 2.2686 0.6122 0.6243 0.7640 9 12 11 .535 .600 2 3 8 4 0.6667
10 Virginia 2.2664 0.5861 0.6257 0.7640 14 10 12 .499 .623 1 0 9 4 0.6923
11 Johns Hopkins 2.2652 0.6115 0.6195 0.7528 10 13 13 .537 .579 1 2 8 3 0.7273
12 Bucknell 2.2337 0.5796 0.5842 0.7753 16 25 8 .495 .568 2 2 10 3 0.7692
13 Penn State 2.2263 0.5801 0.6314 0.7303 15 8 14 .502 .614 2 1 8 4 0.6667
14 Notre Dame 2.2263 0.6272 0.6363 0.7191 5 7 15 .535 .618 0 2 6 4 0.6000
15 Rutgers 2.1983 0.6005 0.6251 0.7079 13 11 16 .524 .575 1 2 8 4 0.6667
16 Penn 2.1943 0.6199 0.6764 0.6854 6 2 21 .564 .612 1 4 6 6 0.5000
17 Vermont 2.1449 0.5622 0.5249 0.7640 18 51 10 .454 .593 0 1 10 2 0.8333
18 Navy 2.1396 0.5728 0.5975 0.6966 17 21 17 .492 .606 1 1 8 4 0.6667
19 Harvard 2.0944 0.5521 0.5931 0.6742 23 22 22 .490 .600 2 1 7 4 0.6364
20 Michigan 2.0910 0.5372 0.6174 0.6854 25 14 20 .464 .612 1 1 7 5 0.5833
21 UMass 2.0703 0.5534 0.5615 0.6966 21 35 19 .471 .590 1 2 8 4 0.6667
22 Robert Morris 2.0652 0.5521 0.5314 0.6966 22 49 18 .467 .550 1 1 9 3 0.7500
23 Georgetown 2.0229 0.5548 0.5564 0.6517 20 40 23 .491 .569 1 2 8 4 0.6667
24 Brown 2.0057 0.5580 0.6042 0.6180 19 19 27 .547 .558 2 3 5 5 0.5000
25 Princeton 1.9810 0.5102 0.5814 0.6404 31 27 24 .439 .601 1 0 6 5 0.5455
26 Marquette 1.9791 0.5334 0.6101 0.5955 26 17 28 .495 .547 1 1 6 5 0.5455
27 North Carolina 1.9606 0.5374 0.6494 0.5618 24 5 30 .469 .587 1 2 6 7 0.4615
28 Richmond 1.9315 0.5100 0.5357 0.6404 32 48 25 .460 .549 2 2 7 5 0.5833
29 Lehigh 1.9296 0.5207 0.5712 0.5843 28 30 29 .442 .588 0 0 8 5 0.6154
30 Ohio State 1.9007 0.5259 0.6049 0.5393 27 18 33 .476 .579 1 1 6 6 0.5000
31 Drexel 1.8473 0.5200 0.5684 0.5393 30 31 32 .476 .573 1 1 5 6 0.4545
32 Saint Joseph's 1.8409 0.4851 0.4734 0.6292 42 61 26 .429 .469 2 3 7 3 0.7000
33 Army 1.8289 0.4951 0.6024 0.5056 36 20 37 .466 .548 2 1 5 6 0.4545

 

[Caliknight]

Ivy could easily get three bids. Maybe four.

Not happening. I'd wager they don't get three, though they are much more deserving that the acc.

 

[biazza38]

Maybe RU will surprise me next week. Sigh

 

[Caliknight]

You'll be surprised if we beat Pedd St.?

 

[biazza38]

You'll be surprised if we beat Pedd St.?

Sorta yeah. Unfortunately 0-2 verse UMD and Hopkins is a tough pill to swallow. PSU has been getting better. So have we’ve been struggling in conference the last two years. Can’t go 0-6 verse PSU, UMD, and Hopkins in two seasons. I’m not being negative, but it’s just the reality of the situation.

 

[Caliknight]

I'll be surprised if we don't win. Though they are getting better each week, that's true. I've had my eye on them and they certainly have been.

HPSS, like their home field is, is the equalizer. They lost to Maryland by 1 but at home, and though they beat Hopkins, they did so without Stanwick who got hurt. They are a different team without him quarterbacking.

 

[biazza38]

I'll be surprised if we don't win. Though they are getting better each week, that's true. I've had my eye on them and they certainly have been.

HPSS, like their home field is, is the equalizer. They lost to Maryland by 1 but at home, and though they beat Hopkins, they did so without Stanwick who got hurt. They are a different team without him quarterbacking.

Of course Stanwick got hurt. Damn! Wish we had the type of luck lol. Hope you’re right

 

[RUTrack94]

Figures Penn State would get it done over Hopkins ... guess that’s good if we win out as the team will be 3rd... thank goodness for UM and OSU in our division ...

 

[biazza38]

Figures Penn State would get it done over Hopkins ... guess that’s good if we win out as the team will be 3rd... thank goodness for UM and OSU in our division ...

On the road against OSU will be no cake walk. Need to beat PSU first. And btw Umich was not bad OOC. The B1G is just that much better. I get your point though

 

[Caliknight]

OSU will not be a cakewalk. That’s for sure.

They are tough at home.

 

[Local Shill]

How do today’s results impact RU’s at large chances?
Navy beat Syr
UNC beat ND.
Hopkins beats Michigan.

 

[Caliknight]

How do today’s results impact RU’s at large chances?
Navy beat Syr
UNC beat ND.
Hopkins beats Michigan.

Navy winning doensn't help.
Unc winning helps.
Michigan losing doesn't do anything, though I would have liked to see them win.
Would have been nice if Vermont could have closed it out against Uva.

Acc looks like a two big league to me if things play out the way they are supposed to in their tournament.

 

[biazza38]

Navy winning doensn't help.
Unc winning helps.
Michigan losing doesn't do anything, though I would have liked to see them win.
Would have been nice if Vermont could have closed it out against Uva.

Acc looks like a two big league to me if things play out the way they are supposed to in their tournament.

Cuse loss doesn’t help the our RPI... however it should hurt the ACC and keep them at a two bid league. I honestly have no clue how Navy is doing. I think at this point we can only think about tomorrow.

 

[LC-88]

Agree with this. The IVY looks strong this year. If the ACC gets three bids, there’s a strong possibility someone will from the IVY gets screwed. Keep an eye on the Big East and Patriot League. The Big East was a two bid and the Patriot was a one bid conference last year. We need their conference tournaments to go according to plan

and Denver not sandbagging again in their conf tourney

 

[dconifer]

Might not even need an at-large bid. Winning the B1g is not out of the question.

 

[Foads]

I think the ND loss helps us tremendously. If they lose in the first round of the ACC tournament, they are out (just as Carc was saying). UNC is toast. If VA loses in the first round of the ACC tourney as expected, they are probably out.

The Cuse loss does not hurt us (IMHO). They will be in regardless and it appears the RPI is not the end all factor this year.

Assuming the smaller conference tourneys go according to seed, the B1G will send three and maybe four to the dance. Ivy's will only send two. The at-large pool is shrinking (IMHO).

Below is how I see it with one at-large spot sill open (Nova, VA, Robert Morris, Navy).

ACC = 2 (Duke, Cuse)
America East = 1 (Albany)
Big East = 1 (Denver)
CAA = 1 (who ever wins)
IVY = 2 (Yale, Cornell)
MAC = 1 (who ever wins)
Patriot = 2 (Bucknell, Loyola)
NEC = 1 (who ever wins)
Southern = 1 (who ever wins)
B1G = 4 (Maryland, Hopkins, RU, PSU)

Just have to win the next two and we are in, PERIOD.

 

[Caliknight]

We definitely control our own destiny at this point.

 

[Knight Owl]

As of today, Villanova is in. They are ahead of Rutgers in every objective measure.

April is "conference month" so now the serious season starts.
Total = indicator of a teams chances to be invited to the tournament based on adding:

+ SOS * 1.00 strength of schedule (SOS)
+ QW * 1.00 quality wins(normalized to 1.0)
+ RPI * 1.00 Ratings percentage Index (RPI)
+ WRPI * 0.20 average RPI of all wins * win pct
+ LRPI * 0.20 average RPI of all losses * (1.-win pct)
+ SW * 0.01 significant win (opp. has a higher RPI)
- SL * 0.01 significant loss (opp. has a lower RPI)
+ WLP * 0.25 Win-Loss Percentage

DISCLAIMER: This prediction is an approximation subject to interpretation of NCAA
criteria and estimated weight factors. Furthermore, the NCAA committee has the
discretion to consider secondary and additional factors.

Rankings
No Team Total RPI SOS QW RPI SOS QW WRPI LRPI SW SL W L WLP

1 Maryland 2.6690 0.6820 0.6564 1.0000 1 3 1 .557 .663 0 1 10 1 0.9091
2 Albany 2.5479 0.6633 0.6350 0.9149 2 7 3 .532 .479 1 1 11 1 0.9167
3 Duke 2.5016 0.6422 0.6199 0.9362 3 12 2 .537 .600 0 2 12 2 0.8571
4 Virginia 2.3750 0.6025 0.6355 0.8404 11 6 5 .509 .618 1 0 10 4 0.7143
5 Yale 2.3510 0.6155 0.6332 0.8085 6 9 9 .513 .597 0 2 10 2 0.8333
6 Denver 2.3491 0.6036 0.5719 0.8511 10 33 4 .501 .623 1 0 10 2 0.8333
7 Loyola 2.3434 0.6253 0.6296 0.8085 4 10 8 .517 .611 0 2 10 3 0.7692
8 Johns Hopkins 2.3340 0.6219 0.6259 0.8085 5 11 7 .539 .586 0 2 9 3 0.7500
9 Cornell 2.3308 0.5988 0.6146 0.8191 12 15 6 .511 .594 1 1 10 3 0.7692
10 Syracuse 2.3113 0.6040 0.6811 0.7766 9 1 11 .538 .612 2 3 7 5 0.5833
11 Bucknell 2.2687 0.5890 0.5935 0.7872 15 24 10 .498 .567 2 2 11 3 0.7857
12 Penn State 2.2582 0.5838 0.6347 0.7553 17 8 13 .503 .610 2 1 8 4 0.6667
13 Navy 2.2444 0.5867 0.6016 0.7660 16 22 12 .506 .602 2 1 9 4 0.6923
14 Villanova 2.2405 0.6058 0.6172 0.7553 7 13 14 .526 .591 1 3 9 4 0.6923
15 Rutgers 2.2142 0.5891 0.6160 0.7447 14 14 15 .518 .581 1 2 8 4 0.6667
16 Notre Dame 2.1757 0.6042 0.6492 0.7021 8 4 19 .541 .603 0 3 6 5 0.5455
17 Georgetown 2.1179 0.5453 0.5644 0.7340 21 37 16 .477 .571 2 2 9 4 0.6923
18 Penn 2.1128 0.5961 0.6703 0.6277 13 2 26 .548 .588 1 3 7 7 0.5000
19 Vermont 2.0878 0.5504 0.5247 0.7340 19 52 17 .449 .592 0 1 10 3 0.7692
20 North Carolina 2.0781 0.5502 0.6457 0.6489 20 5 24 .491 .591 2 2 7 7 0.5000
21 Robert Morris 2.0765 0.5535 0.5321 0.7128 18 50 18 .459 .544 1 2 10 3 0.7692
22 Michigan 2.0466 0.5347 0.6123 0.6489 24 16 23 .466 .606 2 1 7 6 0.5385
23 Princeton 2.0199 0.5224 0.5806 0.6489 30 28 25 .451 .593 2 0 7 5 0.5833
24 UMass 2.0080 0.5383 0.5362 0.6809 23 46 21 .462 .577 0 2 9 4 0.6923
25 Richmond 1.9869 0.5182 0.5459 0.6702 31 43 22 .459 .550 2 2 8 5 0.6154
26 Harvard 1.9611 0.5308 0.5743 0.6064 28 31 27 .481 .571 2 2 7 5 0.5833
27 Lehigh 1.9555 0.5237 0.5918 0.5957 29 25 28 .444 .590 0 0 8 6 0.5714
28 Ohio State 1.9443 0.5335 0.6050 0.5745 25 20 31 .483 .581 1 1 6 6 0.5000

 

[Rutgers83]

As I said prior, win 3 of the 5 remaining games we are in. Beat Penn State we move up 2 maybe 3 in rankings. Beat OSU we stay same or maybe move up one. A loss to any of the Big Ten tournament teams will not disqualify us. We will be at at large bid over Sadexcuse or Virginia. I think Cuse may be out now, but depends on their tournament.

 

[biazza38]

As I said prior, win 3 of the 5 remaining games we are in. Beat Penn State we move up 2 maybe 3 in rankings. Beat OSU we stay same or maybe move up one. A loss to any of the Big Ten tournament teams will not disqualify us. We will be at at large bid over Sadexcuse or Virginia. I think Cuse may be out now, but depends on their tournament.

Don’t underestimate the chaos that is the ACC. We really need Duke to win that thing

 

[Knight Owl]

I think the ND loss helps us tremendously. If they lose in the first round of the ACC tournament, they are out (just as Carc was saying). UNC is toast. If VA loses in the first round of the ACC tourney as expected, they are probably out.

The Cuse loss does not hurt us (IMHO). They will be in regardless and it appears the RPI is not the end all factor this year.

Assuming the smaller conference tourneys go according to seed, the B1G will send three and maybe four to the dance. Ivy's will only send two. The at-large pool is shrinking (IMHO).

Below is how I see it with one at-large spot sill open (Nova, VA, Robert Morris, Navy).

ACC = 2 (Duke, Cuse)
America East = 1 (Albany)
Big East = 1 (Denver)
CAA = 1 (who ever wins)
IVY = 2 (Yale, Cornell)
MAC = 1 (who ever wins)
Patriot = 2 (Bucknell, Loyola)
NEC = 1 (who ever wins)
Southern = 1 (who ever wins)
B1G = 4 (Maryland, Hopkins, RU, PSU)

Just have to win the next two and we are in, PERIOD.

This assumes that the committee doesn't check the RPI or Power Rankings and conference tournaments are won by favorites.

 

[Caliknight]

Villanova is no where close to in. And they are ranked well below Rutgers.