Anybody NOT think this is Kentucky???
http://nypost.com/2017/09/30/father-of-ex-louisville-star-my-son-was-offered-100k-from-rival/
http://nypost.com/2017/09/30/father-of-ex-louisville-star-my-son-was-offered-100k-from-rival/
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Sure. I do not think it's Kentucky.Care to elaborate?
Definitely not saying that at allRuss is saying that's too small of an amount for Kentucky.
Remember coach Cal is a North Easterner and while at Umass we were in the same league. How much does Coach Cal pay these days.Definitely not saying that at all
He's from someplace in Pennsylvania right?Remember coach Cal is a North Easterner and while at Umass we were in the same league. How much does Coach Cal pay these days.
Pitino didn't pay anybody either!! You are correct. Camby was paid by others.He's from someplace in Pennsylvania right?Remember coach Cal is a North Easterner and while at Umass we were in the same league. How much does Coach Cal pay these days.
Who did he pay at UMass? Oh, I remember. Nobody. Calipari did not pay anyone.
Pitino's program was out of control -- hookers, an operations guy doing crazy stuff, what appears to be an assistant coach getting mixed up in a pay for play situation.Pitino didn't pay anybody either!! You are correct. Camby was paid by others.
Paid hookers, jewelry and $40,000 to camby is not similar. We agree to disagree.Pitino's program was out of control -- hookers, an operations guy doing crazy stuff, what appears to be an assistant coach getting mixed up in a pay for play situation.
Nothing like that has ever been alleged about Calipari.
Other than them both being basketball coaches and Italian I don't even know why you were compared the two.
Nobody, to my knowledge, on the Massachusetts basketball staff was involved with that is why it's not similar to Louisville. It was an outside agent. I don't understand why you don't seem to get that difference.Paid hookers, jewelry and $40,000 to camby is not similar. We agree to disagree.
Not at all. I'll use your words. Pitino's program was out of control. Same as Cal's.Nobody, to my knowledge, on the Massachusetts basketball staff was involved with that is why it's not similar to Louisville. It was an outside agent. I don't understand why you don't seem to get that difference.Paid hookers, jewelry and $40,000 to camby is not similar. We agree to disagree.
Is it that you just hate John Calipari and that prevents you from looking at these situations objectively?
Cal's program wasn't out of control.Not at all. I'll use your words. Pitino's program was out of control. Same as Cal's.
I personally think most of football and basketball has been caught up in this for decades. Hell, in the 1980's Roy Hinson drove a bad ass RX7 around campus. I often wondered how he got it. His parents must have done much better than my parents.
Cal's programs have had so many wins vacated it took an accounting firm to figure out when his 500th win was. But he is clean.Cal's program wasn't out of control.Not at all. I'll use your words. Pitino's program was out of control. Same as Cal's.
I personally think most of football and basketball has been caught up in this for decades. Hell, in the 1980's Roy Hinson drove a bad ass RX7 around campus. I often wondered how he got it. His parents must have done much better than my parents.
An outside agent getting to one player, offering him money, and other inducements, to leave school early and enter the NBA draft and hire him to be his agent is not an out of control program. Not in my opinion anyway.
In Pitino's case the people performing badly, shall we say, were people he actually hired. So they either did the things they did with his blessing, just went rouge, or because there was a culture that existed where they believed that doing whatever it took was expected by Pitino.
FIFYCal's programs have had 42 wins vacated. But he has never been personally implicated in any rule breaking by the NCAA.
I bet you did that wearing you Kentucky PJ's.FIFY
Omg lol are you kidding me? Because I changed your post to make it accurate I have to be wearing Kentucky pajamas?I bet you did that wearing you Kentucky PJ's.
Just busting balls. You got to admit it is funny that they celebrated Cal's 500th win then had to have a do over because of the vacated wins. In my mind Cal is as innocent as JoPa. I bet you believe the exact same but that's where we are different.Omg lol are you kidding me? Because I changed your post to make it accurate I have to be wearing Kentucky pajamas?I bet you did that wearing you Kentucky PJ's.
Wow.
Chaney was upset because he felt Calipari was manipulating referees. Maybe Calipari was, who knows, but Chaney lost it and threatened to kill him. I think Chaney got a one game suspension for that.Cal is sleazy but not dirty. Still remember when John Cheney went out of control on the air after a game threatening to kill Cal. Of course Cheney hurt his reputation at the end of his career by seemingly instructing his players to injure opposition players. But he always struck me as a guy who did it right. His teams always played hard. Temple is in a lousy neighborhood, and they held early morning practices. Would imagine the big time recruits wanted no part of the Temple culture. So if he threatened to kill Calipari, had to be a good reason, other than Calipari being rather smug and fashionable.
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The 500 win thing was pretty funny when it happened.Just busting balls. You got to admit it is funny that they celebrated Cal's 500th win then had to have a do over because of the vacated wins. In my mind Cal is as innocent as JoPa. I bet you believe the exact same but that's where we are different.
So you're saying Ohio State.My guess would be another school with similar colors to Louisville and is in a bordering state.
So you're saying Ohio State.
The article said the other program had won national championships and was no stranger to the final four. Well, Ohio State won only one national championship a million years ago but not sure how much fact checking was done. They've certainly been to the final four a few times in recent memory. Indiana and, to a lesser extent, Cincinnati fit the bill to a degree based on the school color, national championship, final four visitor criteria.
I also highly doubt the veracity of this unnamed dad's story.
I know, I listed Indiana too. Ohio State, Indiana, and Cincinnati are really the ONLY ones that fit the criteria. I was just assuming that Indiana was a much cleaner program than Ohio State but what do I know? Kinda forgot that Indiana did hire Kelvin Sampson, afterall.Indiana also fits the criteria.
Yes, but I couldn't tell from the article exactly how this money was offered or where it was coming from. That article was all over the place.@ColonelRutgers I was not referring to Ohio State. Besides, aren't they Nike?
Cincinnati is Under Armour.
I'm referring to a /// school
Pitino's program was out of control -- hookers, an operations guy doing crazy stuff, what appears to be an assistant coach getting mixed up in a pay for play situation.
Nothing like that has ever been alleged about Calipari.
Other than them both being basketball coaches and Italian I don't even know why you were compared the two.
I wouldn't bet my house on the sun rising in the morning lolIs this serious. Russ would you bet your house, literally, that calaperi hasn't paid recruits? There is no doubt that they are as dirty as any program in the country, probably more so. It will be coming out.
That article was weak sauce imo.Yes, but I couldn't tell from the article exactly how this money was offered or where it was coming from. That article was all over the place.
I was just interested in finding out who your mystery school was and I guess we found out!
Ahhh UMass. Camby, AC's own Lou Rowe, Donta Bright, Dana Dingle, Derrick Kellogg. I think I got that right. Man Lou Rowe was a straight up beast. Gave Yinka Dare and my GDub boys lots of trouble back in the day. Temple no slouch either. Eddie Jones, Aaron McKie. Wow, I used to love me some A10 hoops back in the day. My brother was in the same incoming class as Yinka at GW. Kwame Evans, Nimbo Hammonds. Rhody had a PG named Tyson Wheeler who could ball. St. Joe's had themselves a great PG back then too, but the name escapes me. Rashid Bey perhaps? Too lazy to look up. Anyway, good times.
Bernard Blunt
Wenzel could never get Lou Roe into Rutgers. His GPA in HS was so bad he knew that the admissions folks would have put huge scarlet flags out on that one.
Chaney was upset because he felt Calipari was manipulating referees. Maybe Calipari was, who knows, but Chaney lost it and threatened to kill him. I think Chaney got a one game suspension for that.
Isn't the fact that it was an outside agent what makes it similar? If it was an assistant coach it would be the exact same situation. Guess depends how you define similarNobody, to my knowledge, on the Massachusetts basketball staff was involved with that is why it's not similar to Louisville. It was an outside agent. I don't understand why you don't seem to get that difference.Paid hookers, jewelry and $40,000 to camby is not similar. We agree to disagree.
Is it that you just hate John Calipari and that prevents you from looking at these situations objectively?