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Remember that time Flood didn't think PJ Walker was worth a qb scholarship?

The coaches here never would have had the patience with Walker to develop him as a QB. He is a great athlete and it would have been to tempting to move him to the defensive side of the ball. He had to go to a program like Temple, the only way they could have ever gotten a kid with his talent is by promising him they would not move him to defense and he would be given every opportunity to win the job as freshman, which he did.
They not only wouldn't have had the patience, they wouldn't have had the ability. It wasn't until Friedgen that RU had a coach that could actually develop a QB.
 
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Laviano is not a rookie. He is a redshirt sophomore (academic junior) who had appreciable playing time last year.

APPRECIABLE ????
That's bullchit...and you know it.
I don't know why I'm wasting my time pointing out the facts to someone who already has drawn their friggin conclusion and won't let silly things like facts get in the way. But Laviano saw next to no playing time last season...and you were probably one of the nimrods bitching that he didn't see enough action. It's his first year as the starting quarterback for this team and everyone knows it. That doesn't mean I think he should continue to be the starter for RU. Frankly I'm not so sure about that.
But I really am tired of some of the "fire Flood...replace Laviano" crowd. Discussing this stuff with you is like arguing with a Jehovah's Witness or a right-wing whack job.....or talking to a wall.
Boring.
 
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Flood has performed poorly on a number of levels. Not offering a scholarship to PJ Walker was not one of them.
 
Kbee,

FWIW, PJ did not enter the starting lineup until game 4 or 5 of his freshman year. The 1st stringer got hurt, was a senior and we were already 0-4 or 0-5 so Rhule made the switch which was the right decision. He went 2-5 or 2-6 as a frosh, but more importantly he got plenty of PT that helped him develop him into the player he's become.
 
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Kbee,

FWIW, PJ did not enter the starting lineup until game 4 or 5 of his freshman year. The 1st stringer got hurt, was a senior and we were already 0-4 or 0-5 so Rhule made the switch which was the right decision. He went 2-5 or 2-6 as a frosh, but more importantly he got plenty of PT that helped him develop him into the player he's become.

yeah....you're correct. Sorry....don't know how I forgot that.
Nevertheless, the gap in game experience between him and Laviano is massive.
BTW, Walker is a better run/pass threat them Rutgers has had since.....well...ever.
 
APPRECIABLE ????
That's bullchit...and you know it.
I don't know why I'm wasting my time pointing out the facts to someone who already has drawn their friggin conclusion and won't let silly things like facts get in the way. But Laviano saw next to no playing time last season...and you were probably one of the nimrods bitching that he didn't see enough action. It's his first year as the starting quarterback for this team and everyone knows it. That doesn't mean I think he should continue to be the starter for RU. Frankly I'm not so sure about that.
But I really am tired of some of the "fire Flood...replace Laviano" crowd. Discussing this stuff with you is like arguing with a Jehovah's Witness or a right-wing whack job.....or talking to a wall.
Boring.

You used the term "rookie". The dictionary definitions are as follows: an athlete playing his or her first season with a team, a raw recruit, and a novice. The first two certainly aren't true in Laviano's case, the third is arguable but is in a sense being portrayed by the way Flood has treated him, as if he's a fragile true freshman whose confidence would be shattered by being benched even for a few more series.

Facts? How about these: Laviano-led offenses have accounted for exactly six points in games versus PSU, OSU, and Wisconsin combined; during his three quarters of play vs. Wisconsin, Laviano passed for 31 yards. In games played without the significant presence of star wide receiver Leonte Carroo, Laviano has passed for exactly one Rutgers touchdown, versus the formidable Kansas secondary.

Believe it or not, I'm one of the reasonable posters, in the sense that I'm not sure whether Laviano or Rettig is the better quarterback or offense manager. The only thing plainly evident by this point is that Rettig has a stronger arm, which has allowed him to attempt much longer passes and place more zip on the ball. The rest is argumentative between what-ifs with Rettig and whatever happens in practice.

What is incredible to me is not who is starting, but that quarterback being allowed to stay in multiple games for so long after piss-poor offensive output. This was the case versus the three aforementioned opponents this season. As far as last season goes, I was not one of the nimrods calling for Laviano to start over Nova. Nova was a talented senior with known qualities and faults, who was winning games for us more often than not by that point. But in 2013, there was zero excuse for Flood not benching him during both seven-interception performances versus Kent State, as well as nonexistent offensive production vs. Virginia Tech. That pattern has unfortunately continued this season, and not only destroys the starting quarterbacks confidence/psyche, but also fails to give the backup meaningful game minutes.
 
Laviano also had 3 touchdowns vs undefeated MSU. Of course Leonte played that day.
 
You used the term "rookie". The dictionary definitions are as follows: an athlete playing his or her first season with a team, a raw recruit, and a novice. The first two certainly aren't true in Laviano's case, the third is arguable but is in a sense being portrayed by the way Flood has treated him, as if he's a fragile true freshman whose confidence would be shattered by being benched even for a few more series.

Facts? How about these: Laviano-led offenses have accounted for exactly six points in games versus PSU, OSU, and Wisconsin combined; during his three quarters of play vs. Wisconsin, Laviano passed for 31 yards. In games played without the significant presence of star wide receiver Leonte Carroo, Laviano has passed for exactly one Rutgers touchdown, versus the formidable Kansas secondary.

Believe it or not, I'm one of the reasonable posters, in the sense that I'm not sure whether Laviano or Rettig is the better quarterback or offense manager. The only thing plainly evident by this point is that Rettig has a stronger arm, which has allowed him to attempt much longer passes and place more zip on the ball. The rest is argumentative between what-ifs with Rettig and whatever happens in practice.

What is incredible to me is not who is starting, but that quarterback being allowed to stay in multiple games for so long after piss-poor offensive output. This was the case versus the three aforementioned opponents this season. As far as last season goes, I was not one of the nimrods calling for Laviano to start over Nova. Nova was a talented senior with known qualities and faults, who was winning games for us more often than not by that point. But in 2013, there was zero excuse for Flood not benching him during both seven-interception performances versus Kent State, as well as nonexistent offensive production vs. Virginia Tech. That pattern has unfortunately continued this season, and not only destroys the starting quarterbacks confidence/psyche, but also fails to give the backup meaningful game minutes.

Screw the dictionary. I know what a rookie is....and Laviano is a rookie.
Were you one of the many posters here that complained last year that Laviano wasn't getting an opportunity to get any experience and that this would leave us with "rookies" (or any other word you wish to use for guys with no experience) ? Look, a greenhorn/novice/rookie/beginner as our quarterback isn't the only problem this team has.....but it sure is one of them.
 
Screw the dictionary. I know what a rookie is....and Laviano is a rookie.
Were you one of the many posters here that complained last year that Laviano wasn't getting an opportunity to get any experience and that this would leave us with "rookies" (or any other word you wish to use for guys with no experience) ? Look, a greenhorn/novice/rookie/beginner as our quarterback isn't the only problem this team has.....but it sure is one of them.

Yes, I did take issue with that. Not giving the backup quarterback at least some meaningful playing minutes during "garbage time", either during a big win or big loss, has been a continuing problem under both Schiano's and Flood's tenures. Last season, Laviano could and should have been playing during the 4th quarter (or even 2nd half) of the Indiana, OSU, MSU, Wisconsin, and even Howard games. Same goes for Natale and Dodd before him (Nova and Savage started as true freshmen, so this isn't applicable to them). Giving backup quarterbacks at least some meaningful playing time during games not only keeps them ready to contribute if actually required to assume the quarterback role, but also give the coaches/staff (not even mentioning the fans) a better idea of their strengths, weaknesses, and areas of improvement during game action.

I hold this view regardless of whether the starting quarterback is lighting the field on fire with touchdowns, or stinking it up with incompletions, interceptions/fumbles, and/or passes well short of first downs. But when the starting quarterback is doing the latter and the backup appears to have at least some talent, then not playing becomes even more egregious.
 
Such a cry baby thread. PJ is having a good year but he is not the whole story at Temple. Remember he did not look so great his first year. right? That is what you get in CFB. Most QB's and players overall get better as they progress. Nova had a great senior season though many of these same posters probably hated him. If he was doing the same thing at Pitt we would all be pissed at Schiano for not getting him.

There are a handful of guys on that Temple D that were not recruited heavily by us or nationally in addition to Walker. Good for them. Now stop crying.
 
Such a cry baby thread. PJ is having a good year but he is not the whole story at Temple. Remember he did not look so great his first year. right? That is what you get in CFB. Most QB's and players overall get better as they progress. Nova had a great senior season though many of these same posters probably hated him. If he was doing the same thing at Pitt we would all be pissed at Schiano for not getting him.

There are a handful of guys on that Temple D that were not recruited heavily by us or nationally in addition to Walker. Good for them. Now stop crying.

Exactly. We could certainly use #8 (Matakevich) and #9 (Ioannidis). That's for sure.
BTW, both are seniors. And Temple will have more trouble replacing them than we have had replacing Burton and Kroft.
 
Exactly. We could certainly use #8 (Matakevich) and #9 (Ioannidis). That's for sure.
BTW, both are seniors. And Temple will have more trouble replacing them than we have had replacing Burton and Kroft.

Rutgers doesn't even know Hunterdon Central exists over here (except for Lacrosse)...about 35-40 mins from campus. On par with Piscataway and South Brunswick...but given up the area to PSU, V Tech, and now Temple. (not to mention the great TE Firstengurg (sp) who stared for Maryland.
 
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