This is the best opening out there, fully expect Greg Marshall or Shaka Smart take this gig, too much money, too much financial support to turn down
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.
There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.
Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.
And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.
There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.
Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.
And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!Originally posted by jiggscasey:
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.
There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.
Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.
And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
I incorrectly remembered Durant's year. It has been 4-7 since Durant but 1-5 in the last 6 seasons. I'd hardly call that plenty. When you have top 25 or better recruiting classes coming in every year that doesn't cut it.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!Originally posted by jiggscasey:
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.
There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.
Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.
And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
Or in other words you are ignoring the Elite 8 AFTER Durant left school. Or the second round last year or injuries...I get it.Originally posted by jiggscasey:
I incorrectly remembered Durant's year. It has been 4-7 since Durant but 1-5 in the last 6 seasons. I'd hardly call that plenty. When you have top 25 or better recruiting classes coming in every year that doesn't cut it.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!Originally posted by jiggscasey:
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.
There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.
Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.
And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
I made a mistake on Durant's year. Chill out. They had a win against Arizona State last year and that is the only 1 since 2009 yet they had 6 players drafted. Should Texas not expect more wins in the Tournament?Originally posted by G- RUnit:
Or in other words you are ignoring the Elite 8 AFTER Durant left school. Or the wins the last two years...I get it.Originally posted by jiggscasey:
I incorrectly remembered Durant's year. It has been 4-7 since Durant but 1-5 in the last 6 seasons. I'd hardly call that plenty. When you have top 25 or better recruiting classes coming in every year that doesn't cut it.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!Originally posted by jiggscasey:
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.
There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.
Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.
And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
This post was edited on 3/29 1:16 PM by G- RUnit
Might want to chill yourself before atttack mode and get your facts straiight. Texas won tourney games in 2011 and 2014. Some tough losses as noted to teams on an even higher level than Texas in hoops.Originally posted by jiggscasey:
I made a mistake on Durant's year. Chill out. They had a win against Arizona State last year and that is the only 1 since 2009 yet they had 6 players drafted. Should Texas not expect more wins in the Tournament?Originally posted by G- RUnit:
Or in other words you are ignoring the Elite 8 AFTER Durant left school. Or the wins the last two years...I get it.Originally posted by jiggscasey:
I incorrectly remembered Durant's year. It has been 4-7 since Durant but 1-5 in the last 6 seasons. I'd hardly call that plenty. When you have top 25 or better recruiting classes coming in every year that doesn't cut it.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!Originally posted by jiggscasey:
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.Originally posted by G- RUnit:
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.
There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.
Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.
And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
This post was edited on 3/29 1:16 PM by G- RUnit