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Rick Barnes out at Texas

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This is the best opening out there, fully expect Greg Marshall or Shaka Smart take this gig, too much money, too much financial support to turn down
 
The guy makes the post season 15 times in 17 years at the school and wins over 400 games while losing less than 200 and is out of a job? It will never happen but we should fire EJ and hire this guy tomorrow. I can see him heading to Arizona State.
 
16 out of 17 years to the NCAA's no doubt.

Tennessee could be a landing spot for him. Native of North Carolina and I think he prefers to coach in the South.
 
Look for Tennessee to be a player for him. I believe his wife is from there and wanted him to go there when Tennessee was looking a year ago.
 
Shaka Smart would be my guess as a target for UK-----not many better jobs in the country along with better places to live.
 
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
 
Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.

To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.

There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.

Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.

And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
 
Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.

To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.

There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.

Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.

And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?
 
Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.

To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.

There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.

Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.

And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.
 
Stagnant is the right word. They wanted more than just making the tournamwnt. Each school has different expectation levels....Barnes will land at Bama, Tenny or ASU
 
Originally posted by jiggscasey:

Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.

To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.

There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.

Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.

And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!
 
Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by jiggscasey:

Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.

To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.

There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.

Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.

And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!
I incorrectly remembered Durant's year. It has been 4-7 since Durant but 1-5 in the last 6 seasons. I'd hardly call that plenty. When you have top 25 or better recruiting classes coming in every year that doesn't cut it.
 
Originally posted by jiggscasey:

Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by jiggscasey:

Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.

To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.

There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.

Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.

And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!
I incorrectly remembered Durant's year. It has been 4-7 since Durant but 1-5 in the last 6 seasons. I'd hardly call that plenty. When you have top 25 or better recruiting classes coming in every year that doesn't cut it.
Or in other words you are ignoring the Elite 8 AFTER Durant left school. Or the second round last year or injuries...I get it.



This post was edited on 3/29 1:16 PM by G- RUnit
 
Two of the recent above "bad" Rick Barnes losses that are allegedly evidence of mediocrity were to #2 seeds, Duke and Michigan. The third was Arizona. Must be just an awful coach! SMH.
 
Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by jiggscasey:

Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by jiggscasey:

Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.

To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.

There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.

Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.

And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!
I incorrectly remembered Durant's year. It has been 4-7 since Durant but 1-5 in the last 6 seasons. I'd hardly call that plenty. When you have top 25 or better recruiting classes coming in every year that doesn't cut it.
Or in other words you are ignoring the Elite 8 AFTER Durant left school. Or the wins the last two years...I get it.

This post was edited on 3/29 1:16 PM by G- RUnit
I made a mistake on Durant's year. Chill out. They had a win against Arizona State last year and that is the only 1 since 2009 yet they had 6 players drafted. Should Texas not expect more wins in the Tournament?
 
Originally posted by jiggscasey:

Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by jiggscasey:

Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by jiggscasey:

Originally posted by G- RUnit:

Originally posted by BoroKnight:
Originally posted by rufeelinit:
If Alabama is truly looking to make a statement about basketball then they should be in the hunt for Barnes as well. He will have no shortage of suitors and will get a raise out of this. He probably knew that and thus refused to make the changes the administration was seeking.
Exactly. And they knew he wouldn't do them so this was their way of getting him out.

To Texas, Barnes was mediocre. When making the NCAA is your baseline expectation, how you do once you get there becomes the criteria for judging you. Unfair? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of that.

There was a time I thought Barnes would have been a great hire here. That seems like forever ago. I am not automatically opposed to a coach of his age being hired, but I really don't want to hire someone who just got fired from someplace else regardless of the record.

Doesn't matter anyway. We have a coach, and by the time we will be looking for one Barnes will either have a job or be fishing somewhere.

And I'm not so sure a Marshall or a Smart goes to Texas. Smart especially has had his pick of jobs and didn't want any of them. If it was all about money, he would have taken any one of a half-dozen jobs. But Texas money is a different playing field altogether. Hell, they spend a fortune on a women's coach when Conradt finally retired. Didn't work out, as Goestenkors (or however you spell it) is doing TV now, but they were willing to spend it.
If Texas believes 300 games over .500 is mediocre.... they just are not very bright. "Coach of his age being hired?" What??? Like the age of Coach K? Rick Pitino? Tom Izzo? Bo Ryan? Lon Kruger?
Texas offers the tops on support for their program and the coach has had top talent And the team has always performed below their talent level. Barnes has had recruiting classes ranging from 3 - 35 over the last 10 years, but since they had Durant they have had 1 post season victory. How many coaches do you think would have only 1 past season victory in six years when they had all the advantages of Texas? Texas wants to build a 470 million dollar facility and what Barnes was doing want going to sell that. The program was stagnant and it was time to part ways.
Huh? One post season victory since Durant? That's simply not correct at all! Plenty of wins since Durant!
I incorrectly remembered Durant's year. It has been 4-7 since Durant but 1-5 in the last 6 seasons. I'd hardly call that plenty. When you have top 25 or better recruiting classes coming in every year that doesn't cut it.
Or in other words you are ignoring the Elite 8 AFTER Durant left school. Or the wins the last two years...I get it.

This post was edited on 3/29 1:16 PM by G- RUnit
I made a mistake on Durant's year. Chill out. They had a win against Arizona State last year and that is the only 1 since 2009 yet they had 6 players drafted. Should Texas not expect more wins in the Tournament?
Might want to chill yourself before atttack mode and get your facts straiight. Texas won tourney games in 2011 and 2014. Some tough losses as noted to teams on an even higher level than Texas in hoops.
 
45-25 the last two years. For all the success he has brought to Texas, he deserves a little better before being shown the door after a tourney year. For all its money, Texas has never been hoops royalty and with Texas football... Talk about unrealistic expectations.

This post was edited on 3/29 4:01 PM by G- RUnit
 
Heard they wanted him to hire new assistants or be fired. He said no.
 
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