RU Prof Teaching Springsteen Course This Year...

[RU848789]

Pretty cool article about Prof Masur's course, “Springsteen's American Vision,” which he'll be teaching this year. Many call him Springsteen's biggest fan and he also happens to be an RU Distinguished Professor in History and American Studies.

https://news.rutgers.edu/qa/rutgers...=email&utm_campaign=rutgerstoday#.XYk7iChKiHs

 

[Unionst]

Springsteen played at the Ledge (I think it was called) in one of the river dorms in ‘73 and/or ‘74. Maybe the student center too. There happened to be a Springsteen exhibit at the Rock n Roll hall of Fame a few years ago and it included posters on those events. So there’s a deeper connection to RU than what is mentioned in the interview.

Louis Masur - the professor - has written an excellent, very short (100 page) history of the Civil War if you’re by chance interested in a short primer on that subject.

 

[anon_ivydyf0amkzay]

I wish RU were almost exclusively STEM...

 

[Salvi's Headband]

I wish RU were almost exclusively STEM...

You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[T2Kplus10]

Pretty cool article about Prof Masur's course, “Springsteen's American Vision,” which he'll be teaching this year. Many call him Springsteen's biggest fan and he also happens to be an RU Distinguished Professor in History and American Studies.

https://news.rutgers.edu/qa/rutgers...=email&utm_campaign=rutgerstoday#.XYk7iChKiHs

Wow, stupid class. Thumbs down to RU.

 

[T2Kplus10]

I wish RU were almost exclusively STEM...

+1
Most liberal arts degrees are worthless.

 

[RU848789]

Wow, stupid class. Thumbs down to RU.

That's a compliment coming from someone like you.

 

[sunsetregret]

This class should be required your freshman year at Rutgers. It's the kind of thing that builds a relationship between the state, the alumni and the school.

 

[rudad02]

+1
Most liberal arts degrees are worthless.

Do tell.

 

[Rutgers36]

Great class!! Long overdue.

 

[RUInsanity]

+1
Most liberal arts degrees are worthless.

Karma = your kid growing up and being a liberal arts major.

 

[ElmiraExpress]

I wish RU were almost exclusively STEM...

Universities are not trade schools, not should they be.
"I would found an institution where any person can find instruction in any study" Ezra Cornell

 

[T2Kplus10]

Karma = your kid growing up and being a liberal arts major.

Not if she wants college paid for! :)
Seriously, she can do a dual degree program if she is really interested in a liberal arts subject, but it will be paired with something real.....engineering, math, science, business, pharmacy, etc. This is what I did, ChemE and History. And FYI, keep your kids away from any major that ends in the word "studies".

 

[Sir ScarletKnight]

+1
Most liberal arts degrees are worthless.

Karma = your kid growing up and being a liberal arts major.

Not if she wants college paid for! :)
Seriously, she can do a dual degree program if she is really interested in a liberal arts subject, but it will be paired with something real.....engineering, math, science, business, pharmacy, etc. This is what I did, ChemE and History. And FYI, keep your kids away from any major that ends in the word "studies".

I wish RU were almost exclusively STEM...

History\Polysci major here, minoring in English, who entered senior year with a full time job offer in sales at the top company in my industry (technology).
My friends were English majors who are now in advertising and law school.
Polysci majors who are grant writers.

Two Rutgers liberal arts majors are the heads of two Smithsonian museums. (Chief curator and interim director.)

I know engineering majors who can't write, and comp sci majors who can't communicate.
What's important coming out college isn't necessarily your major. It's your degree, and the skills you earn, learn, and can express on a resume.

Should students not learn Environmental studies, and go to work at the EPA? Labor studies for HR? Urban studies to become administrators?

The arrogance rolling off of people who think there is only one way to success is nauseating.

 

[T2Kplus10]

History\Polysci major here, minoring in English, who entered senior year with a full time job offer in sales at the top company in my industry (technology).
My friends were English majors who are now in advertising and law school.
Polysci majors who are grant writers.

I know engineering majors who can't write, and comp sci majors who can't communicate.
What's important coming out college isn't necessarily your major. It's your degree, and the skills you earn, learn, and can express on a resume.

Should students not learn Environmental studies, and go to work at the EPA? Labor studies for HR? Urban studies to become administrators?

The arrogance rolling off of people who think there is only one way to success is nauseating.

Nice try, the data proves this wrong. Are there exceptions to the rule, of course. Some of the must successful people never even went to college. However, in aggregate, the facts are the facts.

 

[Sir ScarletKnight]

Nice try, the data proves this wrong. Are there exceptions to the rule, of course. Some of the must successful people never even went to college. However, in aggregate, the facts are the facts.

The "data" also doesn't usually take into account the value of the degree, the institution, etc.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emsi/2...hat-useless-liberal-arts-degree/#3c390e3c41b8

No duh "facts are facts." Not everyone's a STEM person, and our society needs more respect for a well rounded education.

 

[Salvi's Headband]

TKPlus10 and WestPointKnight are just two smart guys telling it like it is. After all, we can easily see that all the best universities in the country like Harvard, Stanford, Yale, and Duke have long since banished the arts and humanities.

 

[RU848789]

TKPlus10 and WestPointKnight are just two smart guys telling it like it is. After all, we can easily see that all the best universities in the country like Harvard, Stanford, Yale, and Duke have long since banished the arts and humanities.

Mic drop, end of that discussion.

 

[RU848789]

Would also love to know why this thread got moved here. It was intended to be more about Springsteen than academics, which is why I posted it on the football board for general interest, like all the other OT topics there.

 

[T2Kplus10]

Would also love to know why this thread got moved here. It was intended to be more about Springsteen than academics, which is why I posted it on the football board for general interest, like all the other OT topics there.

Poor guy, thread got moved.

 

[RUnTeX]

I know engineering majors who can't write, and comp sci majors who can't communicate.

I liked your post as I agree with your general premise and don't side with the idea of STEM only.

Now I realize my anecdotal evidence is not any more meaningful than your anecdote I've quoted here. That said, there are many engineers and scientists who can write/communicate just as well as or even better than non-technical folks, even English or literature majors. It's a poor stereotype.

 

[retired711]

Would also love to know why this thread got moved here. It was intended to be more about Springsteen than academics, which is why I posted it on the football board for general interest, like all the other OT topics there.

Haven't you read the comments from our fellow posters? This is no longer a thread about Springsteen or the course; but rather a debate over the ridiculous idea that STEM is the only legitimate field of study. No doubt that is what motivated our moderators to move it to this board.

 

[T2Kplus10]

Haven't you read the comments from our fellow posters? This is no longer a thread about Springsteen or the course; but rather a debate over the ridiculous idea that STEM is the only legitimate field of study. No doubt that is what motivated our moderators to move it to this board.

:ThumbsUp

 

[RUnTeX]

I wish RU were almost exclusively STEM...

That must be what Cooper Union or Harvey Mudd are for, or for that matter, maybe that can be your wish for Texas Agricultural and Mechanical instead.

 

[RU848789]

Haven't you read the comments from our fellow posters? This is no longer a thread about Springsteen or the course; but rather a debate over the ridiculous idea that STEM is the only legitimate field of study. No doubt that is what motivated our moderators to move it to this board.

As T just said, that was his plan. He gets some weird charge out of trolling, in general, but trolling my threads, in particular and to him, "success" is achieved when a thread gets political or academic and gets moved away from the football board. He's still trying to think of ways to get my weather threads moved, but he's been unsuccessful in that, as the mods simply ban him from those threads for trolling. So far. But he won't stop trying. It's kind of pathetic really, especially for a guy who's otherwise somewhat successful in his job and in politics - and kind of dumb, since employers can easily track what people say on-line, if so inclined.

 

[T2Kplus10]

As T just said, that was his plan. He gets some weird charge out of trolling, in general, but trolling my threads, in particular and to him, "success" is achieved when a thread gets political or academic and gets moved away from the football board. He's still trying to think of ways to get my weather threads moved, but he's been unsuccessful in that, as the mods simply ban him from those threads for trolling. So far. But he won't stop trying. It's kind of pathetic really, especially for a guy who's otherwise somewhat successful in his job and in politics - and kind of dumb, since employers can easily track what people say on-line, if so inclined.

Gotta have a hobby. Skillet and AK don't post that often any more, so those targets are gone. But don't worry, my board time will diminish soon. Landed my first exec job. Are you retired yet?

 

[retired711]

Gotta have a hobby. Skillet and AK don't post that often any more, so those targets are gone. But don't worry, my board time will diminish soon. Landed my first exec job. Are you retired yet?

It is awful that this is your "hobby." Please cease and desist, as lawyers say. Or, in plain English, STOP!!!

 

[T2Kplus10]

It is awful that this is your "hobby." Please cease and desist, as lawyers say. Or, in plain English, STOP!!!

Wow, I feel like a HS student getting yelled at for talking in class. :)

 

[retired711]

Wow, I feel like a HS student getting yelled at for talking in class. :)

No, you should feel like a student getting horse-whipped for being disruptive and a total ass. I've reported you, but I doubt our moderators will do anything, even though you fit the classic definition of a troll.