Well he went to a private school right? And you're an expert who can pass judgement on their standard of living and the folks who live in Bayonne are poor folk lol. Got it. And the word was $400k not $500k. And after taxes how much is the difference between what Rutgers was giving and his Grateful Four Foundation? How much after taxes is that "Life Changing Money" ? Since YOU have the facts here why don't you share so we know the 100% truth?I guess Paul and his family are rich (living it up in Bayonne). They don't care about life changing amounts of money like the $500k that was promised to him by Washington. Obviously we are super out of touch for thinking that money matters to people. I guess people are willing pass up hundreds of thousands of dollars all the time just to be nice and I just didn't realize it. I feel so dumb for having thought money matters.
And also, all those stories that came out saying that Paul was very upset when the promised NIL payday didn't arrive, and it was only half of the $500k that was promised. Must be fake news plants put out there by Pike to cover how bad a coach he is. It's all so logical.
When you make the comments you did to trash my data I'm supposed to know that one of them didn't refer to me. OK. You want to exclude teams like Hofstra from the NIT and Princeton (who everyone thinks we should beat Hofstra or shouldn't be playing because we risk losing (Princeton) don't fit YOUR agenda. And I'm Cherry picking. Hah. You want to add leagues that we don't play. You don't think how we play vs. local competitive teams is relevant. Losing to teams just a tad below us isn't relative. THAT'S how you scorecard against your peers.I am going to accuse you of cherry picking to make a point. That's what you're doing. It's evident in the fact that you included the Ivy League for some reason. It's evident in the fact that you included "any tournament" so you can throw in Hofstra when we lose. To be clear I don't think you're doing it on purpose; I think you fool yourself as well.
I did some of my own work. It's included in the post. Did you read it?
Again, did you read the post? The word annoying doesn't even refer to you or any person at all so not sure how that bothers you. Yes, I think some of the cherry picking makes things nonsense. Deal with it.
For someone so easily offended by the word "annoying" it really does not take much to get you to reciprocate (what you perceive as) a personal attack.
Ok, maybe it was last six lol. Do you think that changes my point?
It's not. I said that too.I’m assuming that’s conference. .500 in the conference isn’t really a bad mark given where we were.
I assume he got an athletic scholarship.Well he went to a private school right? And you're an expert who can pass judgement on their standard of living and the folks who live in Bayonne are poor folk lol. Got it. And the word was $400k not $500k. And after taxes how much is the difference between what Rutgers was giving and his Grateful Four Foundation? How much after taxes is that "Life Changing Money" ? Since YOU have the facts here why don't you share so we know the 100% truth?
IF you read (but clearly didn't comprehend what I said) I acknowledged that perhaps offers may have come thru that effected his decision. Its right there in the comments you quoted. But don't let that get in your way. Unbelievable.
Yes. If you read the post the word "annoying" very clearly refers to the task of averaging together separate years to create a consistent list. It doesn't refer to a person at all. Again, you need to read the post.When you make the comments you did to trash my data I'm supposed to know that one of them didn't refer to me.
No! I want you to pick a consistent criteria if you want to do this. I did something similar and didn't even get a result that different from you. But if you go in and at the same time claim to filter by conference and then also filter out 1 out of 2 Hofstra games (guess which one we won! it wasn't the one you kept!) you're not approaching it correctly.OK. You want to exclude teams like Hofstra from the NIT and Princeton (who everyone thinks we should beat Hofstra or shouldn't be playing because we risk losing (Princeton) don't fit YOUR agenda. And I'm Cherry picking.
Hah. You want to add leagues that we don't play. You don't think how we play vs. local competitive teams is relevant. Losing to teams just a tad below us isn't relative. THAT'S how you scorecard against your peers.
This is all ridiculous strawmanning.You don't like my data again I say tough to you as well. It is what it is. Turn it into some glowing report . Go for it. You're free to do it as much as anyone. I never said Pike was a bad coach. I have said he is average. That hurts the poor feelings of people basing it off of a POS history. YOU deal with it.
Holy shit dude what are you talking about? Whether it was 5 games or 3 games or 6 games is not anywhere remotely close to the point. YOU ADMITTED DOING THE VERY THING I'M SAYING YOU DID. You picked some "X" games at the end of the season and were all like "well Pike sucks in this span of X games". That's bad! That doesn't work! Whether X was 3 or 6 or 2 or 5 doesn't ****ing matter.And now you admit your accusation about what games I added in prior analysis was wrong. OK.
Also, this whole exchange is like:
Dennis - posts some data
Dennis - I KEEP POSTING THIS DATA AND NOONE DARES CHALLENGE IT
Fluox - points out issues with the data
Dennis - WHY ARE YOU BEING SO MEAN AND INSULTING MY DATA???
for starters. Private Schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships per my search and even other tuition assistance is supposed to be needs based. (now I'm not stupid enough to believe there isn't something there but that is what the search yields)I assume he got an athletic scholarship.
Don't need to be an expert. I can look up the average income in Bayonne on the internet. It's not rich. I also know its reputation is that of old school blue collar.
400k vs 500k, doesn't change my point even if you are right.
I'm not aware of the Grateful4 foundation or whatever it was giving away large sums of money. Just for yucks I looked it up and it doesn't seem to exist. If it gave away money it would have a 1099 on record.
The gist of your comments was that "I do not believe that for a instant. I still hold Paul left because of Pike bringing in Fernadez."
Yes. If you read the post the word "annoying" very clearly refers to the task of averaging together separate years to create a consistent list. It doesn't refer to a person at all. Again, you need to read the post.
No! I want you to pick a consistent criteria if you want to do this. I did something similar and didn't even get a result that different from you. But if you go in and at the same time claim to filter by conference and then also filter out 1 out of 2 Hofstra games (guess which one we won! it wasn't the one you kept!) you're not approaching it correctly.
This is all ridiculous strawmanning.
Holy shit dude what are you talking about? Whether it was 5 games or 3 games or 6 games is not anywhere remotely close to the point. YOU ADMITTED DOING THE VERY THING I'M SAYING YOU DID. You picked some "X" games at the end of the season and were all like "well Pike sucks in this span of X games". That's bad! That doesn't work! Whether X was 3 or 6 or 2 or 5 doesn't ****ing matter.
I found the website. But you were implying that because he has a foundation giving away money he must not care about NIL money. If that were the case there would be a 1099. A website selling merch with his brand on it doesn't suggest he's beyond caring about NIL money.for starters. Private Schools are not allowed to offer athletic scholarships per my search and even other tuition assistance is supposed to be needs based. (now I'm not stupid enough to believe there isn't something there but that is what the search yields)
And I said AFTER taxes.. so let's Rutgers was giving him $200k or could have gotten. And extra $150k AFTER taxes is "life changing money"? A factor? Yeah. THE factor? As I said I am not buying it.
Paul deciding to leave Rutgers because he wasn't going to be the PG or lose his role as primary PG can still very much be the trigger that had him looking at other bigger NIL deals. No?
Here's the link to Paul's Foundation. It wasn't but a single Google click.
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I feel left out of this argument, but the next thing Ostrich96 actually understands about Rutgers basketball will be his first.I found the website. But you were implying that because he has a foundation giving away money he must not care about NIL money. If that were the case there would be a 1099. A website selling merch with his brand on it doesn't suggest he's beyond caring about NIL money.
Oh, and regarding the scholarship thing...what are you even saying? Are you saying that all the kids that play for elite athletic private schools are paying to attend? Is that what you are saying? Or are you just arguing to argue?
My God sir how can you miss "what I am saying" when I put it right there and even acknowledge some of what you are saying COULD be true? I SAID that according to what I see on the internet (BELOW FOR YOU TO SEE AND READ) it is a fact and 100% against the law for NJ kids to be given sports scholarship's....and then said but I'm sure there is a workaround of sorts..GOT IT? I also acknowledged that perhaps NIL did become a factor but IMO it was after he decided to leave and not the main reason..HOW is this so difficult to understand?I found the website. But you were implying that because he has a foundation giving away money he must not care about NIL money. If that were the case there would be a 1099. A website selling merch with his brand on it doesn't suggest he's beyond caring about NIL money.
Oh, and regarding the scholarship thing...what are you even saying? Are you saying that all the kids that play for elite athletic private schools are paying to attend? Is that what you are saying? Or are you just arguing to argue?
Yes, useless. Doesn’t understand anything, buries his head in the sand in utter ignorance. Is why I call him Ostrich96My God sir how can you miss "what I am saying" when I put it right there and even acknowledge some of what you are saying COULD be true? I SAID that according to what I see on the internet (BELOW FOR YOU TO SEE AND READ) it is a fact and 100% against the law for NJ kids to be given sports scholarship's....and then said but I'm sure there is a workaround of sorts..GOT IT? I also acknowledged that perhaps NIL did become a factor but IMO it was after he decided to leave and not the main reason..HOW is this so difficult to understand?
Just for you direct from the NJSSIA:
D. Athletic Recruitment – This subsection prohibits the recruiting of high school students
c. Offering athletic scholarships, free tuition or other monetary assistance, either from the school directly or indirectly through some affiliated body or individual, to induce a student to attend the school for athletic reasons.
You said "I assume he got an athletic scholarship" . Well they don't exist. But you still don't want to believe it.
You said "I looked for the Grateful4 foundation and it doesn't exist" . Well I sent you the link and now "you found it".... was that before or after I showed you that fact as well?
You were factually wrong on both accounts. You don't want to admit it. OK. But here is where you are correct. Arguing with you is useless. Best regards.
I’m not really getting it. Could you explain the nickname further? Also which poster does it refer to? Thanks.Yes, useless. Doesn’t understand anything, buries his head in the sand in utter ignorance. Is why I call him Ostrich96
I'm going to hop off of this merry go roundMy God sir how can you miss "what I am saying" when I put it right there and even acknowledge some of what you are saying COULD be true? I SAID that according to what I see on the internet (BELOW FOR YOU TO SEE AND READ) it is a fact and 100% against the law for NJ kids to be given sports scholarship's....and then said but I'm sure there is a workaround of sorts..GOT IT? I also acknowledged that perhaps NIL did become a factor but IMO it was after he decided to leave and not the main reason..HOW is this so difficult to understand?
Just for you direct from the NJSSIA:
D. Athletic Recruitment – This subsection prohibits the recruiting of high school students
c. Offering athletic scholarships, free tuition or other monetary assistance, either from the school directly or indirectly through some affiliated body or individual, to induce a student to attend the school for athletic reasons.
You said "I assume he got an athletic scholarship" . Well they don't exist. But you still don't want to believe it.
You said "I looked for the Grateful4 foundation and it doesn't exist" . Well I sent you the link and now "you found it".... was that before or after I showed you that fact as well?
You were factually wrong on both accounts. You don't want to admit it. OK. But here is where you are correct. Arguing with you is useless. Best regards.
I hate the way everyone is so mean on social media these days. Also, **** you asshole.It’s ironic some posters love to criticize people but when they get criticized they cry like babies.
It's Kiss my ass. But none of you can figure out the difference. And that's not too surprising from your group.I hate the way everyone is so mean on social media these days. Also, **** you asshole.
LmaoIt's Kiss my ass. But none of you can figure out the difference. And that's not too surprising from your group.
Dennis is like the guy that Seinfeld played tennis against.Lmao
This is like when I said you talked about the last three games as a cherry pick and you are like “no it was the last SIX games”
Yup, you got me lol
Is this thread still about Gavin? I'm lost.Dennis is like the guy that Seinfeld played tennis against.
Charmin could sponsor the "welcome back" video on the scoreboardThe Nebraska game at the RAC is gonna be a freaking bloodbath. @MiloTalon13 hope you’re ready for it since backbone doesn’t seem to run in the family.
Doubtful given they've been here two years running, but who knows with realignmentDo we even know if Nebraska is visiting the Rac next yr?
So all this "Gavin is in trouble" when he arrives, is all gibberish? We don't even know if he's even going to Nebraska. Don't know if Nebraska will even be visiting this year.. Its time to move on from all this Gavin bitternessDoubtful given they've been here two years running, but who knows with realignment