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Rutgers handcuffed by donor.......cut me a break!!!

Because the way RU works outside of the TP error included several strong hires like GS and CVS. We have done it before. We can do it again.

I think Julie knows how to hire, what I think she may not know is how bad things are.

You have no proof she knows how to hire a P5 football coach. She has never done it. And if she doesn't know how good or bad things are, you are calling her completely inept.

Your flimsy position disintegrates with each post.
 
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That isn't several. That is two. And the man who hired them, Not and some of the other drama queens wanted run out of town because of a Star Ledger article.

The twilight zone is coming full circle.

I supported Mulcahey. At least get your lies straight.

You're thinking of Tim Pernetti, the genius who hired Flood and Rice.

And you cannot prove anything about Julie, besides the fact that she came from a very successful AD. You just hate her for being a lesbian, and Barchi for being an academic.
 
Rutgers isn't even close to the way it works the 15 years ago that GS and CVS was hired. This hire will be solely getting a coach on the cheap. Like how the men's basketball program has been operating the last 20 years.

And what is your authority for that? EJ is being paid competitively as is CVS. As would GS if he stayed.

Barchi is likely telling JH you need the donors to step up but that happens everywhere, and is more of a reflection of our donors, that we have a Flood booster and not a RU booster trying to run the show.
 
And what is your authority for that? EJ is being paid competitively as is CVS. As would GS if he stayed.

Barchi is likely telling JH you need the donors to step up but that happens everywhere, and is more of a reflection of our donors, that we have a Flood booster and not a RU booster trying to run the show.
Hehe you know the only reason why EJ is here is because the program was so embarrassing noone else would have come without Barchi having to cut even a bigger paycheck. The two coaches before that were making in the $500K-$600K range. And those two coaches never reached a .500 record. Do you want the football program to get to that level of embarrassment?
 
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I supported Mulcahey. At least get your lies straight.

You're thinking of Tim Pernetti, the genius who hired Flood and Rice.

And you cannot prove anything about Julie, besides the fact that she came from a very successful AD. You just hate her for being a lesbian, and Barchi for being an academic.


More hysterics. Everything I said is a fact. People here remember you bashing BM.

What football coach has she hired? Please tell us.
 
he never had more talent than WVU...please. Ask yourself in 7 years who we'll be recruiting if Flood sets us back to 2-10 again.

His top 3 NJ recruits are #13, #20, & #26. Honestly how much worse can recruiting get?
 
A lot worse. He is getting talent from other areas. You must not have followed during the Shea years.
 
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More hysterics. Everything I said is a fact. People here remember you bashing BM.

What football coach has she hired? Please tell us.

Well, while she hasn't hired a coach yet, it has been confirmed by many in the know that she went after Dan Mullen pretty hard at the end of the 2013 season but deal fell through due to compensation for assistant coaches not being there so we had to keep Flood. By comparison, Tim Pernetti went after...wait for it...Mario Cristobal. Oh and he didn't land him either and had to settle on Flood. I also hear that Julie covets Tom Herman but that is hearsay at this point. I'm fine with the Mullen/Cristobal comparison to prove one AD's eye and vision for the next coach vs. the other. Granted, GS left at the end of January which limited our options but Julie showed guts going after a coach already at a P5 job while her coach was still in place. You can have your opinion of her but from things I've seen and heard this lady gets it. She comes from a place that has a winning culture in big time athletics, not Iona or Bucknell. She was also an integral part of building another athletic department from the Metro/Conference USA level to the ACC.
 
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Well, while she hasn't hired a coach yet, it has been confirmed by many in the know that she went after Dan Mullen pretty hard at the end of the 2013 season but deal fell through due to compensation for assistant coaches not being there so we had to keep Flood. By comparison, Tim Pernetti went after...wait for it...Mario Cristobal. Oh and he didn't land him either and had to settle on Flood. I also hear that Julie covets Tom Herman but that is hearsay at this point. I'm fine with the Mullen/Cristobal comparison to prove one AD's eye and vision for the next coach vs. the other. Granted, GS left at the end of January which limited our options but Julie showed guts going after a coach already at a P5 job while her coach was still in place. You can have your opinion of her but from things I've seen and heard this lady gets it.


end result, she didn't get it done. It's a bottom line business.
 
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end result, she didn't get it done. It's a bottom line business.

Agreed. As it is for Flood. That said, Julie wasn't even a full 6 months on the job in December 2013 and didn't know how to go about getting it done. Two years later, I'd like to think she's more settled and has a better plan in place if the HCKF needs to be sent packing.
 
I believe it is much,much more complicated than that.

The issue is Barchi and the higher ups will not spend money on the athletic department until we are in the black. He has been quoted as saying this himself and a little over a year ago JH stood in front of the Court Club and told dozens of people this very thing. This ties the hands of the athletic department big time. It has also been said many times by prominent posters here and in articles in NJ.com that the donors do not want to pull the trigger unless JH already has a guaranteed successor that they all approve upon. It was a lack of a commitment that kept Flood here a couple of years ago. I have heard numbers thrown about on this site about how much money we have to get a new coach but most don't realize that simply dumping $3.5M or whatever to a coaching staff won't bring anyone of note, the bigger names will want promises from the AD that they will get the support to change the program around in terms of facilities, recruiting budgets, etc. and that is a promise that JH cannot make, at least for the next 3-5 years.

This is how I understand the situation to be based on stories on this site, NJ.com, etc. If it is not true please bring facts to the table to contradict what I am saying. I have heard alot of people say things but it was their opinion but noone has brought to the table any facts. Until then I will continue my opinion that Flood needs to stay here until the real B1G money comes a few years from now.
This. Just about heard as such from Barchi when he spoke to alums. His hands are tied too. Rutgers lacks a serious group of sugar daddies and mommies. This complicates any decision to change. The financial situation is the crux of the core issue. Strap on your Flood boots, because unless someone hires him away, Coach Flood is here to stay.
 
Bring in Pelini. Who gives a damn if he's a hot head. Would be nice having a coach show some emotion on the sideline.
 
He's not like the big donors that the traditional powers have. He's small change and I seriously doubt he's calling any shots.
 
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This. Just about heard as such from Barchi when he spoke to alums. His hands are tied too. Rutgers lacks a serious group of sugar daddies and mommies. This complicates any decision to change. The financial situation is the crux of the core issue. Strap on your Flood boots, because unless someone hires him away, Coach Flood is here to stay.

This is 100% correct. It's all about lowering the subsidy. Everything else is a distant second. Flood is exactly what is required. A low cost coach delivering more results than is commensurate with his pay.

Rossi might want to put his house on the market though.
 
This. Just about heard as such from Barchi when he spoke to alums. His hands are tied too. Rutgers lacks a serious group of sugar daddies and mommies. This complicates any decision to change. The financial situation is the crux of the core issue. Strap on your Flood boots, because unless someone hires him away, Coach Flood is here to stay.

This is still a B1G job. I would think a MAC coach like Carey or Babers or even an AAC coach like Fuente would come and work here for what we can pay. It's an opportunity. Granted, we wouldn't be able to outbid another school for a Fuente or Tom Herman though.
 
end result, she didn't get it done. It's a bottom line business.
It's been mandated by the powers well above her that the athletic department be revenue neutral. She has little, if any, wiggle room. Unless our alumni start throwing some serious cash on the table, there will be no big moves until we start getting full shares from the Big Ten. That's just a fact of life.
 
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It's been mandated by the powers well above her that the athletic department be revenue neutral. She has little, if any, wiggle room. Unless our alumni start throwing some serious cash on the table, there will be no big moves until we start getting full shares from the Big Ten. That's just a fact of life.

Totally agree. However, job one of the AD is fundraising, outside of the mandate from the top of being revenue neutral. If she can't sell her vision to people that matter, that's an indictment of her ability to be in that role.
 
If this is true, I have to question her judgement in accepting the job of AD without asking questions and getting a firm commitment for more investment in athletics. She comes from a school that places a much higher emphasis and investment in college athletics. Why would she come to RU knowing her hands would be tied for about 10 years? No one has that much job security to start with.
It's a leap up to Athletic Director at a Big Ten school in the nation's first or second wealthiest state, per capita. Anyone would jump at the job, Rutgers's historical dysfunction, notwithstanding. It's the same reason Greg took the job, and he wasn't doing much better at this point in his Rutgers career.
 
Totally agree. However, job one of the AD is fundraising, outside of the mandate from the top of being revenue neutral. If she can't sell her vision to people that matter, that's an indictment of her ability to be in that role.
I agree. The problem is that we have a lot of alumni who come from the Middle Three/Ivy League wannabe era. It's not just Rutgers, it seems to be a problem that pervades most northeast state schools, flagship or not. That's years of tradition/inertia to work against. Mulcahy got things done because he had political clout to get money out of the state, and even then in was at the expense of the men's basketball program.
 
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This is still a B1G job. I would think a MAC coach like Carey or Babers or even an AAC coach like Fuente would come and work here for what we can pay. It's an opportunity. Granted, we wouldn't be able to outbid another school for a Fuente or Tom Herman though.


Fuente already earns more than Flood. In a low tax state. Herman also makes more, in a low tax state. We would have to spend more to get AAC coaches while paying Flood off. It tells you how far away we are.
 
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I agree. The problem is that we have a lot of alumni who come from the Middle Three/Ivy League wannabe era. It's not just Rutgers, it seems to be a problem that pervades most northeast state schools, flagship or not. That's years of tradition/inertia to work against. Mulcahy got things done because he had political clout to get money out of the state.


Totally agree. B1G affiliation is a complete game changer. No previous AD had that massive selling point. Can she use it to full advantage? I guess we will see.

That is the only way a real move gets made before full shares are had.
 
Schiano got gassed by 1-AA teams at home lol.
Stupid ignorant post. Schiano was forced to play those teams with Ivy league-type talent (barely) that he inherited.

Are you really a fan of Rutgers? If you are, you wouldn't have posted such a clueless statement.
 
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A lot worse. He is getting talent from other areas. You must not have followed during the Shea years.
sadly, it can get much worse...
agree, recruiting has a long way to go, it can get worse, kids with options may jump


Gotta love the battered women on this board with their loser mentality. Yes, let's keep this fool to keep the 7th best player in the state of Virginia from switching to Indiana. I have news for you, he isn't here because of Flood, he wants to go to school in NJ and play in the Big Ten. Flood being unemployed changes neither.

Actually, don't fire him, just reassign him to be an academic advisor so he can work full time writing Dance Appreciation papers.
 
Bring in Pelini. Who gives a damn if he's a hot head. Would be nice having a coach show some emotion on the sideline.

I would LOVE to get Pelini here at Rutgers if Flood gets fired. I would prefer Hermann from Houston, but we will never be able to afford him.

His next job, he goes to a top shelf P5 school, and gets 3-4 million a year, with a huge budget for assistant coaches.

Pelini on the other hand, will be affordable, compared to what he is making now at Youngstown State. a 2 mm/year deal initially would get him, if it's structured for him to make more later in the contract.

He is an excellent recruiter, and gamely coach. In his 7 years at Nebraska he never won less than 9 games a season. (three 10-win seasons and four 9-win seasons.)

Think about that.
 
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I would LOVE to get Pelini here at Rutgers if Flood gets fired. I would prefer Hermann from Houston, but we will never be able to afford him.

His next job, he goes to a top shelf P5 school, and gets 3-4 million a year, with a huge budget for assistant coaches.

Pelini on the other hand, will be affordable, compared to what he is making now at Youngstown State. a 2 mm/year deal initially would get him, if it's structured for him to make more later in the contract.

He is an excellent recruiter, and gamely coach. In his 7 years at Nebraska he never won less than 9 games a season. (three 10-win seasons and four 9-win seasons.)

Think about that.
Thank you! My reasoning exactly. I'm sick of these buffoons would want schiano back so bad. He didn't get it done here before, sure as shit won't do it again. It's time for a, wait for it, CHANGE. Yes, I said change. Forget about him. He ditched us right before signing day. Why on God's green earth do I want him back
 
This. Just about heard as such from Barchi when he spoke to alums. His hands are tied too. Rutgers lacks a serious group of sugar daddies and mommies. This complicates any decision to change. The financial situation is the crux of the core issue. Strap on your Flood boots, because unless someone hires him away, Coach Flood is here to stay.
Were you in the room, too?
 
Fuente already earns more than Flood. In a low tax state. Herman also makes more, in a low tax state. We would have to spend more to get AAC coaches while paying Flood off. It tells you how far away we are.
Exactly. People throw these names around like they'll be begging to come here and the fact of the matter is none of those names would come here they are already to the point where they don't need a Rutgers to be their stepping stone they will get the big name job without us.

I do think there is an exception. With the ties to Rutgers I think there is a possibility we can get Robb Smith on the cheap. If Flood does get canned he would probably be on the top of the list.
 
Stupid ignorant post. Schiano was forced to play those teams with Ivy league-type talent (barely) that he inherited.

Are you really a fan of Rutgers? If you are, you wouldn't have posted such a clueless statement.

This was happing in 2004, moron.

How many Shea recruits were left and playing?

Were those teams more talented than Rutgers?
 
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This was happing in 2004, moron.

How many Shea recruits were left and playing?

Were those teams more talented than Rutgers?
You're such a dimwit.

Washington State lost to a D1AA program to start the year, and have won 5 of the next six, including Oregon and Stanford and us.

Just admit it, jerkoff. You're not even a Rutgers fan.
 
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Thank you! My reasoning exactly. I'm sick of these buffoons would want schiano back so bad. He didn't get it done here before, sure as shit won't do it again. It's time for a, wait for it, CHANGE. Yes, I said change. Forget about him. He ditched us right before signing day. Why on God's green earth do I want him back
NO DIDN'T HE...WHAT WAS HIS RECORD AFTER ''06''.....DID HE NOT THROW OUT A WEAK ROSTER IN 3 REBUILDING YRS AND MAKE US WINNERS... DID WE NOT START OUTRECRUITING ALMOST ANYONE WHEN HE LEFT...''INCLUDING PSU''...AND IF HE DIDNT LEAVE THAT LAST CLASS WOULD HAVE BEEN RANKED 18TH OR BETTER HAD HE STAYED...WE ALMOST HAD JERSEY ON RELATIVE LOCKDOWN...
 
I don't know what you think is going to happen with Schiano. You think Schiano is going to recruit a better team than Meyer and out coach him?

Schiano won in the same league as Edsall. Neither belongs in the Big Ten.

Flood is fine, you guys still may make a bowl, that is just stupid to be angry you got pummeled by #1 Ohio State with JT starting.

Maryland looked a lot better than Rutgers, but seriously JT didn't start or play much.
Anybody that thinks we are better off with Flood than Schiano should be on medication, seriously.
 
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NO DIDN'T HE...WHAT WAS HIS RECORD AFTER ''06''.....DID HE NOT THROW OUT A WEAK ROSTER IN 3 REBUILDING YRS AND MAKE US WINNERS... DID WE NOT START OUTRECRUITING ALMOST ANYONE WHEN HE LEFT...''INCLUDING PSU''...AND IF HE DIDNT LEAVE THAT LAST CLASS WOULD HAVE BEEN RANKED 18TH OR BETTER HAD HE STAYED...WE ALMOST HAD JERSEY ON RELATIVE LOCKDOWN...
I guess I struck a nerve. Face it, he's not the answer. Flood isn't the answer. Get your head out of the sand and find someone new who can get it done
 
Oh and the fact that you are a Terp and telling us to keep flood is enough to push any smart fan in the other direction...
No what I am saying is Flood isn't your problem, and I don't say Flood should stay because it is good for Terps. I want FRANKLIN to stay because it is good for Terps. If I was PSU I'd fire Franklin end of next year after he has recruited me a good talent base.
 
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Totally agree. However, job one of the AD is fundraising, outside of the mandate from the top of being revenue neutral. If she can't sell her vision to people that matter, that's an indictment of her ability to be in that role.
What RU AD has done that.
Mulcahy had to sell bonds to get the Stadium built and nothing done for any other RU sport, except drop a few
Think student subsidies started with Mulcahy to fund RU FB better than boosters were doing .
Tim said he was going to try to get boosters to help the RU M&WBB facilities but none really stepped up .
Selling RU sports to RU boosters has wound up No Sale for the last two RU ADs.
Julie needs time to get the RU boosters interested in putting their money into RU Sports and that will not happen overnight or while Barchi's cutting her budget .
 
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