Schiano "leading candidate" for Miami job
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Big time historic teams draw viewers. As good as the up and coming teams are they aren't drawing big viewership or are they talk of the town.
OSU resurgence was huge, Michigan is being talked about a lot this year because they are relevant. Obviously your college football IQ isn't high
This was basically the entire selling point of Golden when he was hired in the first place.
Didn't work out too well.
So people just stop watching college football because Miami sucks? And what "resurgence" has OSU had? They've been a national power since the '50s, with at most a handful of down years total during that time. They played for the national title 3 times in the 10 years before Urban got there.
The big name teams get talked about ad nauseum and draw huge ratings, whether they're any good or not. See Notre Dame, which has had one good year in the last 20, or USC, which has been a joke for the last decade. You obviously just started paying attention to the sport a few years ago.
Also, if you were actually a student of CFB history, you would realize that Miami has only been really good for about 15 years of their 90 year history. So I guess those other 75 seasons must have really sucked for the casual fan.
You're an idiot.
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"Would love to see him get that job. Like Michigan, college football is better off with a strong Miami football team."
Disagree. This is a school that's been living off of its past for a while now. Even when they were a power, they had a ton of trouble filling their stadium. Small school with crappy facilities. The only thing they have going for them is a strong recruiting base. Nowhere near being in the same "college football is better" conversation with Michigan.
Disagree. This is a school that's been living off of its past for a while now. Even when they were a power, they had a ton of trouble filling their stadium. Small school with crappy facilities. The only thing they have going for them is a strong recruiting base. Nowhere near being in the same "college football is better" conversation with Michigan.
I Goggled it. It looks like the Dade County and the school realize playing at Dolphin Stadium has become an epic failure.
The U basically plays away games and neutral site games now. They desperately need a concrete box, tall in stature to intimidate away teams again.
6-7 in 2011 and 12-0 but not eligible for a bowl game in 2012. Wow facts just wiz by you.
Wow, you mean there was one whole season where they weren't very good? Then you use a 12-0 year to prove my point.
Moron.
Miami down in good for the other 4 power conferences if their programs continue to rise. More money to distribute to fewer entities. Michigan makes sense for Rutgers in this context. Miami does not. It waters down the pool.
What does Miami being good have to do with our financial distribution? Not sure what you are seeing that I'm not...
Not you --- responded to WhiteBus who notes Miami being good is good for everyone. My response is not really. That may be true for Michigan as the B1G contract is coming up and a resurgent Michigan helps valuation. However, Miami being down also could be good as that is less time/money focused on ACC and can be deployed to the other 4 conferences.
OK how does a down Miami help The Big Ten??? It doesn't. What draws people to the sports are national powers winning.
The "sport" is just fine and draws plenty of people as it is.
What planet are you living on that CFB is dying and starving for increased fan support?
ESPN and ABC are setting ratings records almost every week.
You are clueless. The campus sells itself. You won't find a cleaner campus in America. The stadium venue is fine as long as Miami is winning. The amount of female talent on campus is enviable.
Miami/FSU is as good a rivalry as there is in college football. Miami's is a fairweather fanbase. As long as they're winning and the game is an "EVENT" it will sell out.
Um, it didn't work out well because Golden didn't deliver it. Schiano delivered significant improvement to Miami's defense when he took over as DC in 2009, so he already has a history of success there.
It's the equivalent of when RU renovated the stadium in 1993 and we had to play all our home games at Giants Stadium. It's about the same distance. Not a recipe for a good gameday atmosphere.
Miami is a much, much harder job than most people think. Poor facilities, weak fan support and high expectations don't make for a great mix. Having said that Golden got the recruits he wanted and they didn't perform, so it's all on him.
They haven't sold anything out since they tore down the Orange Bowl. Nobody is going to pack that stadium that is 45 minutes from campus in one of the most exciting cities in the Western hemisphere with plenty to do on a Saturday afternoon other than watch a college football game.
The old Orange Bowl was located right in the middle of a ghetto. Iowa played their in 1990 and a friend of mine went to the game. There were bars on the windows of the houses in the neighborhood immediately around the stadium, and he was legitimately fearful for his safety. That is the kind of distinct and natural homefield advantage that they destroyed and will never get back again.
Yes, their school is great and the women are hot. BFD. If that were the standard for CFB success, the Arizona schools and Hawaii would be national powers.
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Only marginally. The people that are going to care about it already care. It's not like major league baseball where the Cubs finally making the playoffs increases ratings 50%. Having one more "name" team be good sure as hell isn't going to substantially change anything. It's beyond stupid to think that it will. And if they ever get back, some other power will drop off to create another vaccuum. It's a cyclical sport. That's how it's been forever, and how it will continue to be. Just ask your mommy, she'll tell you.
Did you see the ratings for Saturday night?? Don't kid it yourself it wasn't because of RU.
Miami used to play at the Orange Bowl, where the road infrastructure and surrounding area is quite poor and somewhat unsafe I'd say. Those who didn't pay a zillion dollars for parking had to park at Paco's house, quite a distance away. The current parking situation is much better, so though the distance is further from where they used to play, for many the time taken to arrive at the stadium is roughly the same, as the Dolphins Stadium is right off Florida Turnpike and University Blvd, so the road infrastructure is much better.
When the team is winning, the atmosphere is electric, when the team is losing, the atmosphere is awful.
Yep, it was higher than every single American League playoff game this year, and it was a 40 point blowout.
Exactly what point are you trying to make here?
I've got news for you, the year OSU was 6-7, they would have drawn just as well in primetime. Because they're freaking OSU. If not them, the'll put someone else there (Notre Dame, PSU, USC) and draw just as well.
What the hell does Miami have to offer CFB that it doesn't already have?
I lived in Miami for 6 years, 2 of which were spent at the University, so I know the area and University very well, which is why I'm calling you on your BS. What you don't seem to understand is people will attend games as long as it is an *event*.
College football is doing very well without miami. You might argue that it's better to have some different names at the top because it allows fans of other programs, like Baylor or tcu or Boise state or michigan state, etc, to get a piece of the glory for once and brings in fans from other regions. College football doesn't benefit from having the top 10 filled with teams from one state like florida and one region like the southeast.
Couple points here.
1) GS was the leading candidate for all the jobs last year. His agent gets his name out there and does a great job.
2) If GS gets a job in Miami this can't be a positive thing for us. Even if he picks off 2 recruits a year from NJ that doesn't help us.
3) If I were Greg I am not sure I really take this job as he will get 2 years and that is it. If he doesn't have and ACC championship in 2 years he will be fired and his career is pretty much done.
1) GS was the leading candidate for all the jobs last year. His agent gets his name out there and does a great job.
2) If GS gets a job in Miami this can't be a positive thing for us. Even if he picks off 2 recruits a year from NJ that doesn't help us.
3) If I were Greg I am not sure I really take this job as he will get 2 years and that is it. If he doesn't have and ACC championship in 2 years he will be fired and his career is pretty much done.
I think Schiano's agent is actively floating a lot of this stuff..whether the si.com piece (the redemption piece) or other rumors, I think Schiano wants back into coaching and is trying hard to keep his name in the headlines.
hopefully schiano doesn't go somewhere other than RU, but if he does, it'll at least be enjoyable over the years to see all the posters eat crow about how wrong they were to not want him back here.
as others have mentioned, i think schiano in miami wouldn't be worst for us. different conference and state's already loaded with talent. would be much better for RU than him going to maryland or illinois
as others have mentioned, i think schiano in miami wouldn't be worst for us. different conference and state's already loaded with talent. would be much better for RU than him going to maryland or illinois
If he puts that group together, they lay waste to the ACC. The real question is whether Greg and Mario want to go back to being assistants.
you forget that schiano mentored A LOT of miami's elite players. they're gonna help call the shot on this one. likewise, many of the same people who wanted schiano when he turned them down to stay with us... are still there. If he's not top candidate, he's definitely up there. for the other jobs mentioned though, sure. probably floated.
Miami will always be able to recruit players. They need a great game coach, which Greg is not. I think a guy like Josh McDaniels, Chip Kelly, etc make a lot of sense. I think GS is too rigid for that type of school.
Ditto. Pretty sure Greg would take RU over Miami, now that we're in the B1G, based on past statements from my friend, who is best friends with Greg (they're both Jersey guys, who played at Bucknell together and their families are close). If UM is a possibility, I'd fire Flood now and lock Greg up. No idea whether that's what RU will do or not.
Replace "cleaner" with "tropical" and I'm with you here for the most part; even with the Rick Pitino recruiting angle. Also when UM is not winning the rivalry game with FSU is pretty one sided.
GO RU
Sorry, they don't play their g ames on campus, and playing 45 min away is an issue. They need an on campus stadium. Yes, winning helps to fill stands, but there is a facilities war going on in college sports, and with few exceptions, you keep up or lose.
Interesting. But I've read that Schiano loves living in Florida and Golden does leave a talented roster for the next head coach. The right guy could get them right back in the mix very quickly. Miami and GS make a lot of sense. If I were GS's agent, and it came down to RU and Miami for the same money, I'd advise him to take the Canes offer. There is a element of the RU fanbase that will go absolutely nuts if he were hired at $3 million and we did not immediately challenge for our division's title. A rational person would realize that he would be able to recruit at a high level with RU being in the B1G. More B1G funds to hire and retain assistants.
No cleaner. the grounds people are power washing every inch of that campus at 6 am, every weekday.
I think it will depend on what he wants. If he wants the quickest route to the NFL, then Miami has the advantage, as he can realize significant success there sooner. If he wants to be Greg Pa, then Rutgers is the ticket.
