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[RU72]

Gavin had 26. Was named MVP. He and Kante were too tough of a duo for NJ to handle.I have no clue who starts for Rutgers in November,but he will certainly see 26 or so minutes and be one of two primary offensive options. Can't judge defense from an All-Star Game. He has excellent court sense and awareness and is from a terrific family.
Don't know about Betsey,but do know that NIL is at play and that Bama is heavily involved as well as Danny.
No updates on Harper at all.

 

[RUsojo]

Gavin will play starters minutes and be starting by conference play if not day 1.

You have these guys for two years max usually, you play them as much as you can.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

The game was eye opening to see in person. Gavin was extremely smooth in transition, he has a quick release, extended range and underrated athletic ability. He needs to add strength, but I could see he has added some since the game he played at the RAC 3 months ago.

Papa Kante is very talented, a stopper on defense. Great kid, energy, motor and BB IQ. Gavin and Kante had a few great plays together.

Gavin absolutely becomes a much more effective player, with guards who can get the ball and push the tempo, so he can score before the defense is set. Pike and the staff, absolutely must find another guard, with size and speed in the portal, who can get the ball and motor.

We as RU fans are very fortunate and lucky to have Pike and staff. The recruiting efforts and relentless push by Pike and the staff was the difference in landing Griffiths. It has opened the world and doors to fans thinking about RU. At least 5 to 6 separate people said "Yeah Rutgers is good", just in passing by and conversations in the gym, just with having a RU shirt on.

One bright spot for the NJ team that played against Kante and Gavin, was a kid from Teaneck, named Tyler Tejada. About 6'7 or so, not an elite athlete, but very savvy with the ball and looked like a guard, who probably just kept getting taller......very sturdy and strong, he matched up on a lot of possessions against Gavin Griffiths.

He is committed to Towson State, but he was better than Palmquist, Reiber, Miller and a lot of players on past RU rosters, before Pike. I can't say I ever saw him before today's game, but it would not shock me in 2 years if he's in the portal and fielding high major offers. If he was a RU commit, I'd redshirt him and get him in tip top shape and let him play after that. He looked like a player.

There was another guard on the Connecticut team, who is going to do a post-grad year in 2023-24 and he also looked like a player that could help a program from Day 1, especially after a post grad year. RU72 probably has his name, since I didn't grab a game program.

All in all, it was a extremely encouraging day from what I saw from Gavin Griffiths today. RU fans should be very excited about his potential. Anytime he was open, you were almost shocked he missed. I want to say he was 4 of 8 from 3, 3 to 4 dunks, 3 very nice assists, but definitely suited in an up-tempo game or style.

 

[LOU-RU85]

Thanks for the updates fellas!

 

[Nycrusupporter]

The game was eye opening to see in person. Gavin was extremely smooth in transition, he has a quick release, extended range and underrated athletic ability. He needs to add strength, but I could see he has added some since the game he played at the RAC 3 months ago.

Papa Kante is very talented, a stopper on defense. Great kid, energy, motor and BB IQ. Gavin and Kante had a few great plays together.

Gavin absolutely becomes a much more effective player, with guards who can get the ball and push the tempo, so he can score before the defense is set. Pike and the staff, absolutely must find another guard, with size and speed in the portal, who can get the ball and motor.

We as RU fans are very fortunate and lucky to have Pike and staff. The recruiting efforts and relentless push by Pike and the staff was the difference in landing Griffiths. It has opened the world and doors to fans thinking about RU. At least 5 to 6 separate people said "Yeah Rutgers is good", just in passing by and conversations in the gym, just with having a RU shirt on.

One bright spot for the NJ team that played against Kante and Gavin, was a kid from Teaneck, named Tyler Tejada. About 6'7 or so, not an elite athlete, but very savvy with the ball and looked like a guard, who probably just kept getting taller......very sturdy and strong, he matched up on a lot of possessions against Gavin Griffiths.

He is committed to Towson State, but he was better than Palmquist, Reiber, Miller and a lot of players on past RU rosters, before Pike. I can't say I ever saw him before today's game, but it would not shock me in 2 years if he's in the portal and fielding high major offers. If he was a RU commit, I'd redshirt him and get him in tip top shape and let him play after that. He looked like a player.

There was another guard on the Connecticut team, who is going to do a post-grad year in 2023-24 and he also looked like a player that could help a program from Day 1, especially after a post grad year. RU72 probably has his name, since I didn't grab a game program.

All in all, it was an extremely encouraging day from what I saw from Gavin Griffiths today. RU fans should be very excited about his potential. Anytime he was open, you were almost shocked he missed. I want to say he was 4 of 8 from 3, 3 to 4 dunks, 3 very nice assists, but definitely suited in an up-tempo game or style.

So no longer a 3 to 4 year player??? . . .

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

So no longer a 3 to 4 year player??? . . .

He's a minimum 3 year player IMO.

 

[robjknight]

After watching teams in the dance. Success for us will be having at least 8 players that could be starters not 5 good starters and 4-5 ok bench players. 8 starting caliber players gives you an average of 25 minutes for those 8 and allows you to adjust up or down based on game flow, injuries, foul trouble, etc without significant drop off. Add another 2-4 that have potential and/are development projects.

 

[richthedentist]

After watching teams in the dance. Success for us will be having at least 8 players that could be starters not 5 good starters and 4-5 ok bench players. 8 starting caliber players gives you an average of 25 minutes for those 8 and allows you to adjust up or down based on game flow, injuries, foul trouble, etc without significant drop off. Add another 2-4 that have potential and/are development projects.

You are 100% correct we NEED depth look at our team when we lost Mawot who at the start of the year was not even supposed to be that good and we had zero depth and just fell apart

 

[RUsojo]

He's a minimum 3 year player IMO.

Haven’t seen him play so this is not an argument but if he’s a 3yr player for Rutgers he should probably be a 4 star and is a bit overrated, not that it matters.

If he’s a 5star kid he won’t be at Rutgers 3 years unless he gets injured.

Can’t wait for him to get on the banks we’re gonna love having a kid with this type of game on our roster.

 

[Scarlet83]

After watching teams in the dance. Success for us will be having at least 8 players that could be starters not 5 good starters and 4-5 ok bench players. 8 starting caliber players gives you an average of 25 minutes for those 8 and allows you to adjust up or down based on game flow, injuries, foul trouble, etc without significant drop off. Add another 2-4 that have potential and/are development projects.

This^^^

 

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[new jersey1]

A lot to look forward to

 

[SirScarlet]

Thx for the updates!!

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Haven’t seen him play so this is not an argument but if he’s a 3yr player for Rutgers he should probably be a 4 star and is a bit overrated, not that it matters.

If he’s a 5star kid he won’t be at Rutgers 3 years unless he gets injured.

Can’t wait for him to get on the banks we’re gonna love having a kid with this type of game on our roster.

I don't think it's quite that simple on 4* or 5*.....I personally consider any kid that is from 15 to 85 in one group and usually once you get into the 90s to 170 range, I could easily argue those are a lot of the same kids.

I believe RU is getting a shooter that has a quicker release than Cam Spencer and has ability to catch and shoot much quicker than most players we have seen at RU. On the other hand, this type of shooter is at a lot of high major schools, if you consider the last 4 recruiting classes.

What separates Gavin (this is my opinion as I don't deal with any rankings whatsoever) is he is extremely smart and his height is a legit 6'7 to 6'8. I'm 6'3 and standing next to him, it wasn't one of those things where they didn't get that aspect right.

If you take that type of shooting range and mobility with someone that tall and he fills in with the strength aspect, you have a player that is a next level player. I am not betting against that whatsoever, but asking someone to do that in 2 years, to me isn't something (based on what I saw) I would say "100% absolutely".

This is just my opinion, but in order to be a lock as a 1 & done or 2 & done type of player, that type of player gets buckets against double teams, can split defenders off the dribble and elevate to shoot over 99% of defenders. Gavin will get there, but I see him piling up big numbers at RU, just with his shooting range alone.

Defense, tighter dribble, footspeed, quickness all get factored into a 1 or 2 & done discussion for me, irregardless of what their Rivals ranking will say.

 

[MiloTalon13]

I don't think it's quite that simple on 4* or 5*.....I personally consider any kid that is from 15 to 85 in one group and usually once you get into the 90s to 170 range, I could easily argue those are a lot of the same kids.

I believe RU is getting a shooter that has a quicker release than Cam Spencer and has ability to catch and shoot much quicker than most players we have seen at RU. On the other hand, this type of shooter is at a lot of high major schools, if you consider the last 4 recruiting classes.

What separates Gavin (this is my opinion as I don't deal with any rankings whatsoever) is he is extremely smart and his height is a legit 6'7 to 6'8. I'm 6'3 and standing next to him, it wasn't one of those things where they didn't get that aspect right.

If you take that type of shooting range and mobility with someone that tall and he fills in with the strength aspect, you have a player that is a next level player. I am not betting against that whatsoever, but asking someone to do that in 2 years, to me isn't something (based on what I saw) I would say "100% absolutely".

This is just my opinion, but in order to be a lock as a 1 & done or 2 & done type of player, that type of player gets buckets against double teams, can split defenders off the dribble and elevate to shoot over 99% of defenders. Gavin will get there, but I see him piling up big numbers at RU, just with his shooting range alone.

Defense, tighter dribble, footspeed, quickness all get factored into a 1 or 2 & done discussion for me, irregardless of what their Rivals ranking will say.

If Cam Spencer was 6'7"-6'8", with a quicker release and more athletic - he would have been Big Ten first team

It would be wrong to tell any teenager, short of LeBron or Zion they're "100% absolutely" a one-and-done.
I think Griffiths has a significant chance.

 

[RUsojo]

I don't think it's quite that simple on 4* or 5*.....I personally consider any kid that is from 15 to 85 in one group and usually once you get into the 90s to 170 range, I could easily argue those are a lot of the same kids.

I believe RU is getting a shooter that has a quicker release than Cam Spencer and has ability to catch and shoot much quicker than most players we have seen at RU. On the other hand, this type of shooter is at a lot of high major schools, if you consider the last 4 recruiting classes.

What separates Gavin (this is my opinion as I don't deal with any rankings whatsoever) is he is extremely smart and his height is a legit 6'7 to 6'8. I'm 6'3 and standing next to him, it wasn't one of those things where they didn't get that aspect right.

If you take that type of shooting range and mobility with someone that tall and he fills in with the strength aspect, you have a player that is a next level player. I am not betting against that whatsoever, but asking someone to do that in 2 years, to me isn't something (based on what I saw) I would say "100% absolutely".

This is just my opinion, but in order to be a lock as a 1 & done or 2 & done type of player, that type of player gets buckets against double teams, can split defenders off the dribble and elevate to shoot over 99% of defenders. Gavin will get there, but I see him piling up big numbers at RU, just with his shooting range alone.

Defense, tighter dribble, footspeed, quickness all get factored into a 1 or 2 & done discussion for me, irregardless of what their Rivals ranking will say.

Seems about right to me. The trend is that composite 5 stars just dont end up at their original program for three years regardless of the playing circumstances. So if he's here 3 years it would be a pretty significant outlier is all.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

I don't think it's quite that simple on 4* or 5*.....I personally consider any kid that is from 15 to 85 in one group and usually once you get into the 90s to 170 range, I could easily argue those are a lot of the same kids.

I believe RU is getting a shooter that has a quicker release than Cam Spencer and has ability to catch and shoot much quicker than most players we have seen at RU. On the other hand, this type of shooter is at a lot of high major schools, if you consider the last 4 recruiting classes.

What separates Gavin (this is my opinion as I don't deal with any rankings whatsoever) is he is extremely smart and his height is a legit 6'7 to 6'8. I'm 6'3 and standing next to him, it wasn't one of those things where they didn't get that aspect right.

If you take that type of shooting range and mobility with someone that tall and he fills in with the strength aspect, you have a player that is a next level player. I am not betting against that whatsoever, but asking someone to do that in 2 years, to me isn't something (based on what I saw) I would say "100% absolutely".

This is just my opinion, but in order to be a lock as a 1 & done or 2 & done type of player, that type of player gets buckets against double teams, can split defenders off the dribble and elevate to shoot over 99% of defenders. Gavin will get there, but I see him piling up big numbers at RU, just with his shooting range alone.

Defense, tighter dribble, footspeed, quickness all get factored into a 1 or 2 & done discussion for me, irregardless of what their Rivals ranking will say.

And …that kid who is one and done and two and done have to be physically ready to play 82 games a year …

 

[RU84]

I don't think it's quite that simple on 4* or 5*.....I personally consider any kid that is from 15 to 85 in one group and usually once you get into the 90s to 170 range, I could easily argue those are a lot of the same kids.

I believe RU is getting a shooter that has a quicker release than Cam Spencer and has ability to catch and shoot much quicker than most players we have seen at RU. On the other hand, this type of shooter is at a lot of high major schools, if you consider the last 4 recruiting classes.

What separates Gavin (this is my opinion as I don't deal with any rankings whatsoever) is he is extremely smart and his height is a legit 6'7 to 6'8. I'm 6'3 and standing next to him, it wasn't one of those things where they didn't get that aspect right.

If you take that type of shooting range and mobility with someone that tall and he fills in with the strength aspect, you have a player that is a next level player. I am not betting against that whatsoever, but asking someone to do that in 2 years, to me isn't something (based on what I saw) I would say "100% absolutely".

This is just my opinion, but in order to be a lock as a 1 & done or 2 & done type of player, that type of player gets buckets against double teams, can split defenders off the dribble and elevate to shoot over 99% of defenders. Gavin will get there, but I see him piling up big numbers at RU, just with his shooting range alone.

Defense, tighter dribble, footspeed, quickness all get factored into a 1 or 2 & done discussion for me, irregardless of what their Rivals ranking will say.

True, just because you’re a 5 star doesn’t mean you’re an auto one or two and done. Star ranking grades you relative to other high school players. Sometimes these high school players need more than one or two years to develop physically and/or skill wise. Did you see how Duke’s team of 5 stars was manhandled by a less talented but older, more physical Tennessee team?

 

[MiloTalon13]

True, just because you’re a 5 star doesn’t mean you’re an auto one or two and done. Star ranking grades you relative to other high school players. Sometimes these high school players need more than one or two years to develop physically and/or skill wise. Did you see how Duke’s team of 5 stars was manhandled by a less talented but older, more physical Tennessee team?

How many of those Duke players will be one and done? 4?
Best college players not the same as more likely to get drafted

 

[RU84]

How many of those Duke players will be one and done? 4?
Best college players not the same as more likely to get drafted

They may, but it still doesn’t mean they’re NBA ready. It also doesn’t mean there are other 5 star players that physically and or skill wise are even less NBA ready and need more than one or two years of seasoning.

 

[MiloTalon13]

They may, but it still doesn’t mean they’re NBA ready. It also doesn’t mean there are other 5 star players that physically and or skill wise are even less NBA ready and need more than one or two years of seasoning.

Even if they get drafted?
Why would college help them get more NBA ready than the g league?

 

[Nycrusupporter]

They may, but it still doesn’t mean they’re NBA ready. It also doesn’t mean there are other 5 star players that physically and or skill wise are even less NBA ready and need more than one or two years of seasoning.

Everyone here is missing the point. Getting drafted and being NBA ready are two very different things. Most kids who get drafted are not NBA ready, and need both work on their bodies and their games. If the potential is there they will get drafted, and these NBA teams would much rather have them in their organizations rather than under developing or developing bad habits in college.

 

[MiloTalon13]

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