Shaka Smart
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Shaka Smart would laugh in our face. Real programs have already been interested in him and he turned them away. If/when he decides to leave VCU, he'll be at a top National program.
We need to either get a re-tread like Howland or Larry Brown or a young up-and comer with energy and a a tireless work ethic. I favor the latter. Unfortunately, our last venture down that road got us a nut job.
We have to suck it up for another year or two and then maybe they'll start to take the program seriously and we can actually begin to rebuild.
We need to either get a re-tread like Howland or Larry Brown or a young up-and comer with energy and a a tireless work ethic. I favor the latter. Unfortunately, our last venture down that road got us a nut job.
We have to suck it up for another year or two and then maybe they'll start to take the program seriously and we can actually begin to rebuild.
I would be very happy with any of the guys that Aggs mentioned but I doubt we could come up with enough money for any of them. I still hope Eddie can get it done but things aren't looking too great. Next year should be very important. We must win more than 10-12 games next year. we must see some real progress.
I basically agree with this, although our pool may be widened a little with the possible temptation of the B10 revenue full share coming during the next coach's tenure should a change be made.
I don't favor either approach. I'd be happy with a guy like Howland/Brown just as much as I would with an up and comer like Cluess/Masiello (Archie Miller may be a little unrealistic). If a guy can coach and still has it in him to do so and isn't mailing it in then I'm happy to consider him. If you're worried about age put some good assistants under him.
he'd have to change his last name if he ever decided to come here under this leadership and support level.
If so, there is no evidence of it in this thread.
No way in hell a coach leaves VCU to come here. Not this coach, certainly. Basketball is king at VCU, the Atlantic 10 is about as good as it gets for non-football conferences, and he has shown he can win big there. Why come here? Why even take the call?
His name comes up a lot during this time of year, but he stays put. He has a good situation down there. Basketball is the no. 1 priority, winnable league, good arena, rabid fanbase and a good school that hasn't lost perspective (specifically, you better go to the sweet 16, final 8 or final 4 every year or you are done.
It's not just Smart. There are others like Mark Few, Gregg Marshall, Brad Stevens before the Celtics. There's a tendency these days for these guys to stay in the fiefdoms they've built for themselves or at the very least stay around longer until the opportunity they really like presents itself. They get paid well, they are popular on campus, they get facilities built because of the winning so is there as much a need to leave at the first whiff of interest? Probably not. It doesn't mean they are permanent stays but they are longer stays at the very least. So if you're happy why leave until at least something you really want comes along.
Maybe it is that simple, but I don't think so.
It would have to be somebody willing for the RU contract to be his last. Big money and long term. The record of those that have failed here, and gone on to what, is pretty damning. Other than Waters who is still a head coach? Nobody at a major program. Tom Young went to Old Dominion if you want top go that far back. Anybody since Bill Foster go on to a lead major program from Rutgers?
If we bounce Jordan without him getting a legitimate shot the next round will be like the scene from "The Day of the Jackal" (1972 version) where the assassin is negotiating price with the OAS group that wants Charles de Gaulle dead.
OAS Boss: How much?
Assassin Jackel - You must understand this is a once-in-a-lifetime job. I could never work again.
OB - How much do you want?
AJ - Half a million, in cash.
OAS Lieutenant - What?
AJ - Half in advance and half on completion.
OB - Half a million francs?
AJ - Dollars. (1962 dollars)
OL - Are you mad?
AJ - You'll get France in return. I'd have thought it a reasonable price. If you can't manage it, there's nothing more to be said.
OB - We accept.
Smart has already officially turned down NC State and Illinois, and rumors were hot and heavy that he was offered by Minnesota and Marquette as well as a couple NBA teams.
Yeah, he'll be coming to Rutgers REAL soon.
Another self-hating Rutgers fan, in sea of self-hating Rutgers fans. All it takes is the right timing, and the right check, and anything is possible. I know it has been a suicide -inducing stretch for Rutgers hoops, but those of you who really feel this way should probably find another team to support. My goodness, Rutgers is in the Big Ten now. Let's act like it.Originally posted by PiscatawayMike:
Smart has already officially turned down NC State and Illinois, and rumors were hot and heavy that he was offered by Minnesota and Marquette as well as a couple NBA teams.
Yeah, he'll be coming to Rutgers REAL soon.
Maybe that guy who went to NY from LA to run the woeful Knicks might decided to return to coaching and since in Metro area decide to take take the job, feeling it's a step up from being the NYK Prez..Originally posted by PiscatawayMike:
Smart has already officially turned down NC State and Illinois, and rumors were hot and heavy that he was offered by Minnesota and Marquette as well as a couple NBA teams.
Yeah, he'll be coming to Rutgers REAL soon.
He was , at one time the CBA's Albany Patroons HC, so he can't consider himself bigger than being the face of RU MBB .
Or a guy in KY right now might want to prove himself to Jersey basketball fans , showing them his time with the Nets
was not the way he really coaches and trying to prove he's a winner, by taking the RU job.
It's not about self loathing...it's about reality. What part of you doesn't understand that Smart has turned down bigger name schools willing to offer him big pay days? So suddenly he's coming to a school with poor facilities that likely can't match the salaries offered at other schools? Are you this naive? Or is your time horizon 10 years? Yes, perhaps in 10 years RU will be a more attractive job when the B1G money is flowing and upgrades to facilities have been made..
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The issue wouldnt be that RU is this terrible destination or anything like that. If we make even a modest move towards upgrading the facilities (and by that I dont even mean they have to be built - just promised) then we are attractive, if we pay well. But if we pay well, so will someone else. And that someone else would likely be less of a rebuild.
Thats not to say there arent circumstances it couldnt work out. Shaka decides to leave VCU in a year where there just arent any job big openings and RU throws the bank at him. But again - why would e do that when he makes plenty of money at VCU, and could always just wait a year.
Basically, we would need to do something like this with a Smart level coach who also wants to be in this area in particular. In other words, a Big Ten job, or an NYC area job or something is his dream job.
So basically, no - we arent getting Shaka Smart even if we did have the money to pay him and didnt currently have a coach with three years on his contract.
In the even that things change - well we probably dont need a smart - beause we will have lucked out and gotten a good coach without overpaying (or because we found the one I described above - for whom RU is a dream job.) Basically at the point at which Shaka Smart in particular would could here, we likely wouldnt need him in particular.
This post was edited on 3/16 3:22 PM by derleider
Thats not to say there arent circumstances it couldnt work out. Shaka decides to leave VCU in a year where there just arent any job big openings and RU throws the bank at him. But again - why would e do that when he makes plenty of money at VCU, and could always just wait a year.
Basically, we would need to do something like this with a Smart level coach who also wants to be in this area in particular. In other words, a Big Ten job, or an NYC area job or something is his dream job.
So basically, no - we arent getting Shaka Smart even if we did have the money to pay him and didnt currently have a coach with three years on his contract.
In the even that things change - well we probably dont need a smart - beause we will have lucked out and gotten a good coach without overpaying (or because we found the one I described above - for whom RU is a dream job.) Basically at the point at which Shaka Smart in particular would could here, we likely wouldnt need him in particular.
This post was edited on 3/16 3:22 PM by derleider
Smart is one of the hottest coaches in America and has turned down many formal and back channel entreaties for his services. And VCU is an exponentially better program and has been for years (hasn't everyone since 1982?). basically, they are the biggest show in town in a mid-sized city and that plays in a nice facility and win with a distinctive style. he will leave soon, but not for Piscataway.
