St. Johns vs. Nebraska
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Nebraska's big man (# 32) why is he on the court? Not impressed at all. Overall Nebraska is going to struggle this year.
Has Nebraska been to the NCAAs lately? Around here, we know “bad”. We let the Nebraska football team off the hook this year. It could happen in hoops, too. Piscataway is the Lourdes of college sports.
They don't do much well, and St. Johns has missed a ton of shots. We're just better.
I think they went 5 years ago. There is actually a lot of talent on the teambut, Miles couldn't beat the Washington Generals with the Dream Team. He is beyond terrible as a game coach and worse at game planning.
The only pass I will give them is 3 of the most important players they have sat out last year and this is the first team they have played that isn't completely pathetic.
I'll keep typing this on the site. St. Johns is a good team. Mullin isn't a bad HC. They will flirt with an NCAA bid this year and could very realistically get in.
We beat a good team in the exhibition.
We beat a good team in the exhibition.
Jordy Tshimanga he is a freshman.
I think Nebraska is the only program in a major conference to have never won a NCAA Tournament game.
Not only that, they went to the NCAA Tournament for the first time...ever
I am not saying anything bad about Nebraska, They can improve and one game does not make a season. Also I do not want to jinx us against them.
St John's is a fringe NCAA tourney team. At absolute best. And that's with Ponds going HAM this season.
Yes they are------and the BE is having a very good week at the expense of the Big Ten.
Didn't watch much of St Johns game but Xavier-Wisconsin game was a good one-----Xavier is a Top 15 club------better than SHU and maybe as good as Nova.
Didn't watch much of St Johns game but Xavier-Wisconsin game was a good one-----Xavier is a Top 15 club------better than SHU and maybe as good as Nova.
Big East will be very good this year. But I would not call 4-3 a very good week for one conference over another . 2 of the games went to the wire with Xavier/Wisconsin and Creighton/NW..Both conferences will have multiple teams in the NCAA (6 or more). One thing for sure the Big 10 as a whole will be a gauntlet as the young teams of last year, except Wisconsin, will all be appreciably better. Very few nights off for both.
Xavier was clutch down the stretch, winning in a building where visiting opponents rarely win. Xavier players were defiantly happy when they knew the game was won.
The Big East is ahead 4-3 and Illinois plays Depaul tonight. If Illinois should win it will be 4-4 for the third year in a row. I would not say the Big East had a great week if Illinois wins. RU did defeat the Johnnies in what was played for real by both teams. I don't see why they are rated so high.Ponds and Lovett are good but the rest of the team is just average.
St. Johns OOC includes: Duke, Arizona State, Missouri (likely), Nebraska, Oregon State and St. Joseph's. When coupled with their 18 game Big East schedule this will likely result in a Top 25 SOS.
If they go 10-8 in conference (which I think they could) and 10-3 OOC (which I think they will) then 20-11 with a Top 25 SOS heading into the BET puts them very much in the mix for a bid. They just beat Nebraska by 20+. They are a pretty good CBB team. Time will tell.
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Stop with the the game that didn't count----it means nothing---the CCSU game meant more.
My point is that for the BE it was a good week vs a conference considered elite.
Combine that with Michigan St losing to Duke it wasn't a good Big Ten week.
They'll be plenty more upcoming weeks where it will be I'm sure
My point is that for the BE it was a good week vs a conference considered elite.
Combine that with Michigan St losing to Duke it wasn't a good Big Ten week.
They'll be plenty more upcoming weeks where it will be I'm sure
True. In any event, the match-ups the last couple of years have been weak. They seem to be made to achieve a .500 result. For the Big East, they left out the No. 1 and No. 9 teams in their 10-team conference (based on their pre-season coaches poll). For the Big 10, they left out No. 1, No. 5 (Mich) and No. 8 (Iowa) and No. 10 (PSU) from the conference's top-10 (based on our pre-season coaches poll) . So it is not our best teams playing there's.
Almost everyone would love to have seen MSU v. Nova, but neither of these top-seeded teams played in the games. Purdue visited Marquette, when Purdue v. Xavier would have been a much better match up. Instead you had Xavier (No. 2 in the BE) playing Wisconsin (picked No. 7 in the Big 10). No. 6 SJU played No. 13 Nebraska.
It's a good week because the No. 2 team in the BE (Xavier) beat the No. 7 team in the Big 10 (Wisconsin), in a nip-and-tuck game? It's a good week because the No. 6 team in the BE (SJU) beat up on the No. 13 team (Nebraska) in the Big 10 at home? More telling to me was No. 3 MN beating No. 3 Providence by more than 10 on the road.
Providence isn't # 3 in the BE Greenie-----far from it.
Nova , X , SHU , Creighton and maybe SJU-----they are # 5 or6 IMO.
That said-----Gophers are very good .
Mich State loss was a bad one considering Bagley leaves at the 10 minute mark and they get wiped out on the backboard. Sparty IMO will learn from that one and be better for it.
Nova , X , SHU , Creighton and maybe SJU-----they are # 5 or6 IMO.
That said-----Gophers are very good .
Mich State loss was a bad one considering Bagley leaves at the 10 minute mark and they get wiped out on the backboard. Sparty IMO will learn from that one and be better for it.
I was basing my rankings on the pre-season BE coaches poll, but I'm sure Digger, with all of your coaching experience, you know better. http://www.bigeast.com/news/2017/10...a-sits-atop-coaches-preseason-poll-again.aspx
Do any of you guys know how the decide the matchups in the Gavitt. Wish we played Minn instead of Indiana. I was told one year Nova played Nebraska or some other lower level team. Remember I said this - SHU us better than Xavier and will finish higher in the BE than them. And I love XU. I would not be surprised at all if we win the league outright.
But three years in a row at 4-4. Are they stacking the decks to keep it even?
But three years in a row at 4-4. Are they stacking the decks to keep it even?
You miss the point and I do not think you realize the Big Ten and the Big East will likely be the 2 best conferences this year , along with the Acc. If Illinois beats DePaul it is 4-4 , which is to be expected with 2 top conferences. If a Big 10 team loses to a Big East school or vice versa it is not a bad loss.
The entire Power 5 will be pretty good. There are few cupcakes today not just from the Power 5 but around the country. There are a lot of good teams in the American, the Mac, and other conferences. Teams better not be sleep walking thru games . There will be plenty of so called upsets this year.
So much for the Big East beating the Big 10 and having a great week. Illinois just beat Depaul by 9. The series ended 4-4 once again for the third straight season
because no one cares, if you do not do it all on one night or location, I bet most people do not know its happening, they spread these games out over a week so its just like if they scheduled the game non conference with no tie in to a challenge
That is two different events. Besides, I don't think the Gavitt Games are designed to have teams of similar talent play each other.
Sometimes the match up pits schools who are near each other. Maryland vs Georgetown, Rutgers vs St. John's .
It's a OOC game against someone from a power conference. That's all it is.
Three way tie for 7th. It gave RU a good OOC opponent. Plus BC didn't participate in the challenge that year. Most of the challenge games I watched ended in double-digit wins. It's not like all of the games are set up for close games. Teams just gotta lace em up and play.
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