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Stabbing at Rutgers Business School

Not arguing with you, completely agree, just wasn't sure why you threw that into this thread.
Sorry just went on a rant...the disregard for others lives is at a new low..NYPD officer killed today also.
Murdered officer - 19yr veteran of #NYPD. Married - two young children. #43precinct
 
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Thoughts are with you from the Penn State community. Hope everyone is safe.

Honestly appreciate that. -And while there's definitely no doubt that fans from both schools go back and forth at each other pretty vigorously, to say the least, something like this, where, literally, a life and death situation is involved, seems to put that aside, even if only for a while.
 
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Terrible situation. Glad to hear it's resolved. I've lost friends who were attacked by their students.

Crime is way down from 20 years ago, but the perception of crime is way up.
 
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I'm getting old and grow sadder at the frequency of these stories. Assuming the perp is captured red-handed, I'd put him/her on the first military air transport to Iraq, drive-him/her to Mosul: paint a Star of David on their chest, and have the individual take the point on clearing out snipers and bobby traps.Thats putting your tax dollars to work.
 
They are just saying it was a former student, no details.
 
I remember witnessing violence as a kid, but it just seemed like it was a different kind of violence. I never remember young adults fighting to the death. Things are beginning to spiral out of control. I don't know what the answer is but we need change in our society from the top down.
 
we have a society that thinks there are no boundaries any longer,get mad? shoot,kill someone...girl throws a punch at you ..knock her out? Chicago is on record pace as an large American city for Homicides in one year..
Sad statement overall these days for society as a whole..
rant over.
Completely untrue. Chicago's murder rate is certainly up significantly, but it's well below what it was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. And crime is generally lower than it's been in decades in most of the USA, but somehow some would have people believe that crime is out of control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
 
He's saying that the great lie being told is that crime is way up. Same lie as telling people how horrible things are now in this country, compared to some mythical time in the past when everybody had it much better.
Bingo! Skillet - you should know me better than that - look at my other post in this thread, immediately above yours.
 
Stupid thing to say. "Don't let Obama take away my guns." And for eight years he didn't take away your guns. So now it's "Don't let Hillary take away my guns." When is the bullshit going to stop?
Didn't "they" take away the guns from New Jersey residents? For all intents and purposes, it is near impossible to get a carry permit here.

And didn't "they" publish lists of who owns guns in Connecticut.. or was that New York?

When only the government and their minions have weapons.. it will be the beginning of the end here. Obama has been politicizing the military... promoting "his" guys and gals and moving out others. Hillary will do the same. If this liberal "progressive" party gets what they want with all their work on the young and immigrants.. illegal or not.. and what they want is the famous permanent majority... they will look to consolidate power and remove any chance of any party unseating them.

Call it paranoid BS, but... IT CAN HAPPEN HERE. It is folly to think otherwise. And you know the liberals think it is possible as well.. because they have brought it up in terms of a fascist takeover many many times.
 
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Bingo! Skillet - you should know me better than that - look at my other post in this thread, immediately above yours.
Sorry about that Numb3rs. I should know you better than that! My brain is addled from reading too many political polls.
 
Didn't "they" take away the guns from New Jersey residents? For all intents and purposes, it is near impossible to get a carry permit here.

And didn't "they" publish lists of who owns guns in Connecticut.. or was that New York?

When only the government and their minions have weapons.. it will be the beginning of the end here. Obama has been politicizing the military... promoting "his" guys and gals and moving out others. Hillary will do the same. If this liberal "progressive" party gets what they want with all their work on the young and immigrants.. illegal or not.. and what they want is the famous permanent majority... they will look to consolidate power and remove any chance of any party unseating them.

Call it paranoid BS, but... IT CAN HAPPEN HERE. It is folly to think otherwise. And you know the liberals think it is possible as well.. because they have brought it up in terms of a fascist takeover many many times.
Are you dumb enough to think that you with your hand gun and rifles be able to all the sudden overthrow the governemnt? I think you been watching to many red dawn movies. While the idea of a bunch of citizens being able to rise up against the government by grabbing their guns was realistic two centuries ago, it not realistic today. It will take an internal military split. So if you think your ability to own a gun is keeping the government at bay your an idiot.



All I know is thank god that this person didn't have a gun. The results would have been much much worse. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims.
 
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Are you dumb enough to think that you with your hand gun and rifles be able to all the sudden overthrow the governemnt? I think you been watching to many red dawn movies. While the idea of a bunch of citizens being able to rise up against the government by grabbing their guns was realistic two centuries ago, it not realistic today. It will take an internal military split. So if you think your ability to own a gun is keeping the government at bay your an idiot.



All I know is thank god that this person didn't have a gun. The results would have been much much worse. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims.
You are correct PSU. It would take some internal decay within the military to stop a military overrun of our country. But then you have to meet me half way and admit that an armed public plays a monumental role on who wins and who loses. Right? I've been to ranges where I've witnessed 800 & 1000 yard shots by guys that would suffer a heart attack if they sneezed the wrong way. I've seen teenagers smoke clay targets moving at 70mph on an outgoing shot! So please don't tell me that a well organized militia made up of theses guys won't cause havoc on an unsuspecting platoon or even a regiment. Don't ever dismiss hand to hand combat with an armed public.
 
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You are correct PSU. It would take some internal decay within the military to stop a military overrun of our country. But then you have to meet me half way and admit that an armed public plays a monumental role on who wins and who loses. Right? I've been to ranges where I've witnessed 800 & 1000 yard shots by guys that would suffer a heart attack if they sneezed the wrong way. I've seen teenagers smoke a clay target moving at 70mph on an outgoing shot. So please don't tell me that a well organized militia made up of theses guys won't cause havoc on an unsuspecting platoon or even a regiment. Don't ever dismiss hand to hand combat with an armed public.
Not in today's mechanized war machines. All they feats were done in the safety of a controlled environment. Have them try the same feat under direct fire and most those guys would be shaking to much to even hit a barn. Sure they could take out a few targets until they were eliminated by one phone call for an air strike. It would be like saying a few guys with solo cups could be effective in stoping hurricane sandy flooding. Then you have to measure the worth of those guns in you scnerio over the cost of the mass ownership of guns has society in times of peace. Is the everyday gun violence and accidents worth it in the remote chance of a revolution?
 
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Are you dumb enough to think that you with your hand gun and rifles be able to all the sudden overthrow the government?

Are you dumb enough to think that an armed general population has zero value in ensuring its freedom? But maybe you are right.. maybe the 2nd Amendment says we should have access to the same arms as the government.

Also.. it is not about "overthrowing the government". Its about protecting the American democratic republic if there is a fascist or socialist takeover... heck, toss in religious takeover as well in the days of ISIS.

You do have a case here were Hillary and her minions are mentioning how Donald Trump is like Hitler.. fear-mongering that this could be the last free election. Yeah.. that happened.

PS.. if you want to throw around the word "idiot", use "you're and idiot" instead of "your an idiot".
 
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Not in today's mechanized war machines. All they feats were done in the safety of a controlled environment. Have them try the same feat under direct fire and most those guys would be shaking to much to even hit a barn. Sure they could take out a few targets until they were eliminated by one phone call for an air strike. It would be like saying a few guys with solo cups could be effective in stoping hurricane sandy flooding. Then you have to measure the worth of those guns in you scnerio over the cost of the mass ownership of guns has society in times of peace. Is the everyday gun violence and accidents worth it in the remote chance of a revolution?
Initially Yes, long term No. Remember your original premise, a split in the military and I said internal decay. Try advancing a military campaign when you have 10 guys from a 1/3 mile away picking off your field camanders. Sure you are correct regarding air strikes. But ponder this thought for a moment. The military is caught in a split and engaged in a ferocious street and air campaign against an opposing army where resources are precious. Now just for a moment imagine an enraged public that's truly willing to die. Please believe me, the public will determine the winner in that fight. I do compliment you on your original condition, a military split is a must. But then you also must admit that in such a situation an armed public becomes lethal.
 
Completely untrue. Chicago's murder rate is certainly up significantly, but it's well below what it was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. And crime is generally lower than it's been in decades in most of the USA, but somehow some would have people believe that crime is out of control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago
The Labor Day weekend murders come after police recorded 92 murders in August, the deadliest month for Chicago since June 1993. With murders up roughly 50% for the year, Chicago has tallied more homicides than the much larger cities of New York and Los Angeles combined.

The city is on pace to record well over 600 murders for 2016, a threshold it has not reached since 2003.
 
The Labor Day weekend murders come after police recorded 92 murders in August, the deadliest month for Chicago since June 1993. With murders up roughly 50% for the year, Chicago has tallied more homicides than the much larger cities of New York and Los Angeles combined.

The city is on pace to record well over 600 murders for 2016, a threshold it has not reached since 2003.

I have zero idea what the purpose of your post is. It contains no new information exonerating you from being horribly wrong in your original post on this, claiming Chicago was on a record pace for most homicides in one year. You clearly have bought into the right wing fabrication machine, hook, line, and sinker, which means you are incapable of critical thought.
 
I have zero idea what the purpose of your post is. It contains no new information exonerating you from being horribly wrong in your original post on this, claiming Chicago was on a record pace for most homicides in one year. You clearly have bought into the right wing fabrication machine, hook, line, and sinker, which means you are incapable of critical thought.
To be fair, it's not so much a right wing fabrication machine as an opposition party fabrication machine. Whoever isn't in power tries to scare the electorate into thinking everything is horrible so as to get them to vote the incumbent out. The two parties tend to go about it in different ways, but the intent and effect is essentially the same.

So while it has been right leaning politicians and media while Obama was in office, it was left leaning politicians and media when Bush Jr. was in office.
 
Are you dumb enough to think that you with your hand gun and rifles be able to all the sudden overthrow the governemnt? I think you been watching to many red dawn movies. While the idea of a bunch of citizens being able to rise up against the government by grabbing their guns was realistic two centuries ago, it not realistic today. It will take an internal military split. So if you think your ability to own a gun is keeping the government at bay your an idiot.



All I know is thank god that this person didn't have a gun. The results would have been much much worse. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims.

Spot on...I mean there are no places in the world we can point to where an armed, somewhat loosely organized populace has frustrated the American military for 15+ years, amirite?
 
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Spot on...I mean there are no places in the world we can point to where an armed, somewhat loosely organized populace has frustrated the American military for 15+ years, amirite?
That was too obvious.. did not want to point that out to him. BTW.. I know the defense against a rogue government is a bit of a stretch.. but to my way of thinking, that is exactly what the 2nd Amendment is all about... England was collecting weapons and that was what the Battles of Lexington and Concord were about.

BTW.. it is past 24 hours.. when will we learn a name? when will charges be filed?
 
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Let' s see. I attended the business school in Newark ' 70 - '73 after the riots a few years earlier. Never a problem at the school. I guess Piscataway is just a dangerous place.
 
The civil war will come when half the military and the population with the guns turns on Pres Hillary,ala Turkey and the Philippines.
 
BAC I agree. Something doesn't seem right about this incident, at least not from a news perspective.

we always receive information about stuff like this immediately....I mean I am surprised that no witnesses who saw it have given out much information on social media. There has literally been no updates of any information for over 24 hours...seems odd I agree
 
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