Strong losses

[RUwoz]

Washington State looking great vs Stanford, the best team in the Pac12, and Penn State isn't looking too bad... Obviously OSU MSU and Wisconsin were going to be better than us, but no bad losses

Edit: in no way is this a flood defense, he's a bum. Just an observation

 

[ru-baby]

You and skyler sure working hard to defend flood and laviano. I can think of two more who are silent but will be along soon to help out. Everyone has their circle of friends and family I guess. Understandable

 

[WhiteBus]

Washington State looking great vs Stanford, the best team in the Pac12, and Penn State isn't looking too bad... Obviously OSU MSU and Wisconsin were going to be better than us, but no bad losses

You should stop doing drugs and get into rehab

 

[RUwoz]

You and skyler sure working hard to defend flood and laviano. I can think of two more who are silent but will be along soon to help out. Everyone has their circle of friends and family I guess. Understandable

I'm all for firing Flood, I would love that actually, doesn't mean we can't find positives in losses that already occurred.... Don't know how our opponents we lost to looking better means that flood should stay here. But so it's clear, I want Greg back more than anything other than Urban Meyer coming here

 

[koleszar]

Thought this thread was about Charlie Strong and their 24-0 loss to Iowa St. Then saw 1st post and no we are still a very poorly coached team. Nice try though.

 

[RUwoz]

Thought this thread was about Charlie Strong and their 24-0 loss to Iowa St. Then saw 1st post and no we are still a very poorly coached team. Nice try though.

Never said we weren't a very poorly coached team... Doesn't mean positives cant be found

 

[PhDKnight]

It appears from afar that this team (players and coaching staff) suffers from the same inferiority complex that many on this board suffer from when facing quality opponents. The players individually play hard, however, it seems like the organization expects to lose against quality opponents. There is only one way to point the blame if this is actually true and that is at the HC. Anyone else see this?

 

[Hondo77]

 

[RUwoz]

Find me a bad team we've lost to this year...

 

[PhDKnight]

What's your point. You have to win against quality opponents sometimes. You can't put together a schedule that only includes Kansas, Indiana, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Colorado and an FCS team every year. Sometimes just by chance you should beat a quality opponent. When was the last time we beat a team that finished the year with 9 wins? 2006?

 

[KJ_RU]

Find me a bad team we've lost to this year...

Show me a good one that we've beaten...and be careful what you ask for, we still have a couple of bad teams on the schedule.

 

[BoogieKnight]

Find me a bad team we've lost to this year...

Wow. This is the kind of losing mentality that keeps coaches like Kyle Flood and Terry Shea in jobs for 4-5 years. I guess there are people who are ok with getting curb stomped in 1/3 of our games every season as long as it's by good teams. Don't worry...losses to bad teams are just around the corner. SMH.

 

[brgossRU90]

Close Losses don't mean sh t.

 

[MCY]

Getting blown out by an average team (PSU) and an above average (they are not elite) Wisky team are not close losses.

 

[Knight Shift]

What's your point. You have to win against quality opponents sometimes. You can't put together a schedule that only includes Kansas, Indiana, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Colorado and an FCS team every year. Sometimes just by chance you should beat a quality opponent. When was the last time we beat a team that finished the year with 9 wins? 2006?

Win? How about even looking moderately competitive against quality opponents?

Weak schedules have been the hallmark of Rutgers athletics for years. It makes Rutgers feel good about themselves.

 

[lighty]

Never said we weren't a very poorly coached team... Doesn't mean positives cant be found

You found positives after another blowout loss?

For any fan that hoped we turned a corner against Michigan State... This is our reality. Flood is a horrible coach. Laviano can ONLY look like s good QB when throwing to Carroo. And the team is showing signs of giving up IMO.

 

[lighty]

Never said we weren't a very poorly coached team... Doesn't mean positives cant be found

You found positives after another blowout loss?

For any fan that hoped we turned a corner against Michigan State... This is our reality. Flood is a horrible coach. Laviano can ONLY look like s good QB when throwing to Carroo. And the team is showing signs of giving up IMO.

 

[bac2therac]

oh that typical rallying cry....that Washington State loss doesn't look so bad now...oh brother

 

[zappaa]

Strong loses
It never ends here

 

[biazza38]

Never said we weren't a very poorly coached team... Doesn't mean positives cant be found

Our starting QB just threw for 34 yards and continues to fumble the snap..... And you're talking about "positives." Posistives?!? Really?!? There are positives to to be found. This is hilarious

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Wazzou had the 97th ranked D in the nation headed into last nights rain soaked game, at home, against Stanford, which they still lost. Let's not get too crazy about losing to Wazzou at home. Please.

 

[MoobyCow]

WSU and Penn St are improving and we are not.

If we can play with MSU and a strong WSU team what business do we have getting curb stomped by Wisc & Penn St?

You can't have it both ways. Either we outperformed for a couple of games, but we're really not that good or the coaches are doing horrible job in letting us get crushed by similar level teams.

 

[cRURah]

Strong losses are for losers.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

All anyone needs to know, about our team, is that Marilyn put up plenty of yardage and a good number of points, against both Ohio State and Penn State. We didn't even come close.

 

[BoogieKnight]

Strong loses
It never ends here

Yep, this is how it starts. In 1998, we went 5-6 and it was a +5 game improvement over the previous year (0-11) so Shea stayed despite the fact that Miami, Syracuse and Va Tech were still kicking our faces in. But that manifested the following two seasons in losing to the likes of Cal, Wake Forest and Tulane. In fact, if not for a miracle OT win vs. Syracuse in 1999, we would have went winless in 2 out of 3 seasons. Bottom line, cut the cord now or things will get worse, even against the likes of Indiana, Maryland and Kansas.

 

[beaced]

Washington State looking great vs Stanford, the best team in the Pac12, and Penn State isn't looking too bad... Obviously OSU MSU and Wisconsin were going to be better than us, but no bad losses

Edit: in no way is this a flood defense, he's a bum. Just an observation

ALL losses are "BAD". Some badder than others. Something this staff has specialized in this year.

 

[koleszar]

Yep, this is how it starts. In 1998, we went 5-6 and it was a +5 game improvement over the previous year (0-11) so Shea stayed despite the fact that Miami, Syracuse and Va Tech were still kicking our faces in. But that manifested the following two seasons in losing to the likes of Cal, Wake Forest and Tulane. In fact, if not for a miracle OT win vs. Syracuse in 1999, we would have went winless in 2 out of 3 seasons. Bottom line, cut the cord now or things will get worse, even against the likes of Indiana, Maryland and Kansas.

I just have this sinking feeling we are heading back to the abyss of the college football world. I fear by time the administration wakes up it will be far to late. Last time it took us decades to get out of it and I won't have the time on this earth or the patience to do it again. I fear the administration has learned nothing from the past and are doomed to fail yet again. History proves this right. We are in a very precarious position right now. I fear our leaders will not be able to right this ship. Instead they will stay the course, full speed ahead straight into that iceberg despite all warnings.

 

[BoogieKnight]

I just have this sinking feeling we are heading back to the abyss of the college football world. I fear by time the administration wakes up it will be far to late. Last time it took us decades to get out of it and I won't have the time on this earth or the patience to do it again. I fear the administration has learned nothing from the past and are doomed to fail yet again. History proves this right. We are in a very precarious position right now. I fear our leaders will not be able to right this ship. Instead they will stay the course, full speed ahead straight into that iceberg despite all warnings.

Well, it wasn't really decades. It was half a decade (2000-2005). And, we didn't have the infrastructure and backdrop of the B1G behind us at the time. Additionally, it was questioned whether or not RU could have even a remote level of success for a sustained period of time which Coach Schiano kind of proved you could. I mean no one even thought a 2006 type season was possible. And he wasn't even that great of a coach. So someone, one day, will look at this job and say "yeah, I can win there." And it won't take decades for the right person to do the job. It will take university and statewide support, financial resources and someone with the right vision/ability to see that vision through.

 

[koleszar]

Well, it wasn't really decades. It was half a decade (2000-2005). And, we didn't have the infrastructure and backdrop of the B1G behind us at the time. Additionally, it was questioned whether or not RU could have even a remote level of success for a sustained period of time which Coach Schiano kind of proved you could. I mean no one even thought a 2006 type season was possible. And he wasn't even that great of a coach. So someone, one day, will look at this job and say "yeah, I can win there." And it won't take decades for the right person to do the job. It will take university and statewide support, financial resources and someone with the right vision/ability to see that vision through.

I was around for the Anderson, Graber, Shea years was counting those as well. If we just count the Schiano years than yes your correct. I was a fan before he showed up and if you count from the beginning of the Anderson years it took a real long time. So our reference years are just different that's all.

 

[BoogieKnight]

I was around for the Anderson, Graber, Shea years was counting those as well. If we just count the Schiano years than yes your correct. I was a fan before he showed up and if you count from the beginning of the Anderson years it took a real long time.

Oh you are talking from the time we jumped from 1-AA to when we started looking like a real program. Gotcha. Yeah, but remember those first 10-12 years or so we were an independent then we were in a basketball-first league for 20 years. Conference affiliation or lack there of is one hurdle we won't have to overcome this time. Also, our stadium and the Hale Center is fine. Not state of the art but not putrid either. Also, right now we actually have a real AD in place. Sure people want to run her out of town for various reasons, but as long as she's here I feel good about her re-working the infrastructure of the entire athletic department and building up the non-revenue sports into winners. With university/state support and financial resources the right coach could turn it around in 2-4 years.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

We're not going back into the "abyss" so long as we get rid of Flood.

 

[koleszar]

Oh you are talking from the time we jumped from 1-AA to when we started looking like a real program. Gotcha. Yeah, but remember those first 10-12 years or so we were an independent then we were in a basketball-first league for 20 years. Conference affiliation or lack there of is one hurdle we won't have to overcome this time. Also, our stadium and the Hale Center is fine. Not state of the art but not putrid either. Also, right now we actually have a real AD in place. Sure people want to run her out of town for various reasons, but as long as she's here I feel good about her re-working the infrastructure of the entire athletic department and building up the non-revenue sports into winners. With university/state support and financial resources the right coach could turn it around in 2-4 years.

Man I hope your right if this goes down hill quick. Because I can't go through another repeat of that era. It just sucked while all my friends were Miami, Florida St, Notre Dame or whatever flavor of the year team that won, fans. You have made some valid points on why a quick turn around can be achieved and I'm relieved somewhat. But in the back of my head I can't stop thinking how inept our leadership has been throughout the years. I hope we finally have found another good AD. And yes Mulcahy was a great AD he was the first one to truly get the ball rolling and then got railroaded out by made up facts by yours truly the Star Liar.

 

[rutgers4life11]

Strong losses??? HA!

How about weak losses?

We are Ohio State's biggest margin of victory all season.
We are Wisconsin's biggest margin of victory all season.
We are Penn State's 2nd biggest margin of victory all season.

It's one thing to lose. Another to get absolutely obliterated.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Strong losses??? HA!

How about weak losses?

We are Ohio State's biggest margin of victory all season (Maryland rolled up yardage and pts)
We are Wisconsin's biggest margin of victory all season (Nebraska could have won the game)
We are Penn State's 2nd biggest margin of victory all season. (Maryland rolled up yardage and pts)

It's one thing to lose. Another to get absolutely obliterated.

Fixed it for you.