Take It To The Bank......

[rutgersguy1]

What if the report allows them to fire her with cause?

Do what Flood did and threaten to sue. Seems to work, lol. Worse case it creates a big stink. It's stupid, this whole for cause not for cause stuff. Just fire people pay them what you owe them and move on. That's how everyone does it. It would take the most egregious of mistakes to let someone go paying them little to nothing.

I mean as far as I know even Butch Davis got his money from UNC. I think others schools too that have had violations have paid their coaches after firing them. I rarely hear for cause even brought up. The only one I can think of any time recently is Tim Beckman and that was actually egregious and related to player safety.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Not sure but I believe the money has been guaranteed and new DC as well. Again, this could all be bad info......

Sure go hire Dave Aranda for 1M+ and then when we get rid of Flood he can take over. ;)

 

[MikeR0102]

Sure go hire Dave Aranda for 1M+ and then when we get rid of Flood he can take over. ;)

I'm not going to say Rutgers shouldn't do something similar to that, but WVU tried it with Holgerson and it got ugly fast with Bill Stewart trying to dig up dirt on Holgerson and whatever else went on there.

 

[rutgersguy1]

I'm not going to say Rutgers shouldn't do something similar to that, but WVU tried it with Holgerson and it got ugly fast with Bill Stewart trying to dig up dirt on Holgerson and whatever else went on there.

Good point, lol.

But you know in the end what needed to get done was done even if they had to live through a bit of ugliness. Nothing we wouldn't be used to by now haha.

 

[ru66]

some are wrong on here about the atl. department ,when pernetti was hired after a somewhat popular mulchahy was let go-there was not the problems that resulted or the back stabbing as when Julie did her thing

 

[Wutevah]

some are wrong on here about the atl. department ,when pernetti was hired after a somewhat popular mulchahy was let go-there was not the problems that resulted or the back stabbing as when Julie did her thing

I believed Pernetti tried to keep the status quo as

1. He was really new to the position.
2. Probably a much better politician than Julie due to his history in CBS and being a football player alumnus.

The thing is the athletic department is completely underperforming, so it needed to be cleansed a long time ago.

 

[rutgersguy1]

some are wrong on here about the atl. department ,when pernetti was hired after a somewhat popular mulchahy was let go-there was not the problems that resulted or the back stabbing as when Julie did her thing

I could see that being possible because we hired someone with no experience in an AD let alone a successful one to know what needed to be done an all the uncomfortable changes that needed to be made. Plus he was an alum so some popularity for that.

Outsiders and administrators from more successful ADs will need to continue on with the changes made to our miserable AD and again I'd foresee more backstabbing by the old guard trying to protect their fiefdoms and decades of complacency.

 

[Rutgers25]

Flood is staying.

Hopefully, Flood rids himself of his DC and his DB Coach Wilson.

As I posted on Premium, don't think Flood has the balls to bring back former DB Coach Chris
Demarest who is a superior recruiter and could once again "mine" South Florida for RU.

ONE MORE YEAR!

That's too bad. Apathy and RU football here we come. Our basketball program must be the model they are following.

 

[MikeR0102]

Good point, lol.

But you know in the end what needed to get done was done even if they had to live through a bit of ugliness. Nothing we wouldn't be used to by now haha.

Honestly, I don't know if Ms. Hermann needs to go or not, but I do know Mr. Flood should be, and if they want to clean house, I would accept Norries Wilson as a 1 year interim coach.

 

[bac2therac]

What if the report allows them to fire her with cause?

lots of luck with that...see Mike Rice, Tim Pernetti, Fred Hill Jr...doesn't usually work out and I am sure Julie will sue and drop some nuggets about RU if they tried to not pay her

ru66..very easy...the AD was underperforming for years, those still there are now being held accountable and they don't like it

 

[vkj91]

some are wrong on here about the atl. department ,when pernetti was hired after a somewhat popular mulchahy was let go-there was not the problems that resulted or the back stabbing as when Julie did her thing

Of course nobody complained because nothing changed. Here's a good example, I got a call last year from the Athletic department and the guy on the phone says to me "hey sorry for the call but it appears we forgot to charge you for your pledge the last few years. Is it ok if we run your card for 25,000 today?" No, I wasn't the only one the old regime forgot to run yearly pledges for.

 

[vkj91]

lots of luck with that...see Mike Rice, Tim Pernetti, Fred Hill Jr...doesn't usually work out and I am sure Julie will sue and drop some nuggets about RU if they tried to not pay her

ru66..very easy...the AD was underperforming for years, those still there are now being held accountable and they don't like it

No doubt they will negotiate, if in fact, it happens. Point is Flood called their bluff and ball is in Barchi's court.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Honestly, I don't know if Ms. Hermann needs to go or not, but I do know Mr. Flood should be, and if they want to clean house, I would accept Norries Wilson as a 1 year interim coach.

I'd have to see what's in the report but I don't think she should but if she was so be it. That's the difference between me and some others here. When TP was fired I leaned towards that but if they kept him I would have been okay with it. Same here if it goes against what I prefer I'm fine with it. No tantrums or continuous snarky comments like you see here by some.

TP couldn't let FHJ go because of money or Rice go without cause and I didn't ding him hard. I understand the environment. Same for Flood and JH, again with money being the issues. I'd be unhappy just like with FHJ/Rice but I understand the environment and wouldn't ding her harshly for it. Be consistent, don't have double standards. I try to be consistent in my judgments and reactions but too many here don't.

2 things I judge on, hiring coaches and raising money. Everything else is minutiae that can be dealt with to one degree or another. There might be stuff that was wrong going on but it would have to be really bad for me to think it's worthy of firing. So she hasn't hired any major coaches yet and she's done a nice job raising money so to me unless something really bad is in the report then I don't see firing being warranted. But again if it happens, we move on and I'm fine. No big stink from me like others here were for TP.

Thing is I don't see anything improving because the same entrenched old guard interests will try to backstab any other outsider trying to affect change. So without getting rid of them what does it matter.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Of course nobody complained because nothing changed. Here's a good example, I got a call last year from the Athletic department and the guy on the phone says to me "hey sorry for the call but it appears we forgot to charge you for your pledge the last few years. Is it ok if we run your card for 25,000 today?" No, I wasn't the only one the old regime forgot to run yearly pledges for.

LOL. That's the thing I've seen changes with regards to so many things for the better. Some more pronounced some subtle but all the right direction. So it would disappoint me if she was let go but if it happens so be it. It would stupid though if he's not there also. And again without getting rid of those old incompetent entrenched interests is the end result going to be any different?

 

[rutgersdave]

Flood is staying.

Hopefully, Flood rids himself of his DC and his DB Coach Wilson.

As I posted on Premium, don't think Flood has the balls to bring back former DB Coach Chris
Demarest who is a superior recruiter and could once again "mine" South Florida for RU.

ONE MORE YEAR!

Every year just replace the DC because Flood is incompetent and everyone suppose to be happy. I thought it was a possibility that he stays for 2016 especially if you remember Barchi gave him a vote of confidence after last season as well as most of the fans here. One year said he positive to Rutgers football and next year said he terrible. We are also landing in fifth place in the Big TEN East right below Penn State. Are we going to really beat the Big 4 with our recruiting when they are all in the Top 10 in the country?

I hope they realize they will lose more keeping him but they will have to see it to believe it. A new coach give the fans new hope for at least 3-4 years right when the Big 10 cones into play. I got rid of my season tickets after 10 years 2 years ago.

 

[RutgersMO]

Flood is staying.

Hopefully, Flood rids himself of his DC and his DB Coach Wilson.

As I posted on Premium, don't think Flood has the balls to bring back former DB Coach Chris
Demarest who is a superior recruiter and could once again "mine" South Florida for RU.

ONE MORE YEAR!

Thanks for the info TV....wish it were better news.

MO

 

[RUBOB72]

Stay strong boys...I mean how much more reliable could Mr.TV be in his prediction vs. our totally connected inner circle...at this point we all should admit this is Rutgers we're talking about...would it really be a surprise if Flood is here with several new coaches?...I 'll make another prediction...we'll lose some sales but most of you saying "I'm done that's it if Flood is back"...you'll be back.

 

[RU MAN]

A

If this is true, there will be A LOT of posters here with egg on thier faces who proclaimed he was gone..

And yet you still are in the dark about the goings on behind the scene. What does keeping Flood do for you? Give you an immense level of satisfaction even if it means he sets this program back to the Shea era. Is that what you want, because you "like" the guy? Wow, talk about cutting one's nose to spite his own face.

 

[MADHAT1]

Another thread about Flood staying , tomorrow or the next day a Flood staying will appear again.
Seems like everyone is acting like they know Flood's definitely coming back like they were told by a creditable source or two of his being retained.
I say BS to that and just like I'm guessing the return of Kyle next season," the ones in the know"
are throwing out their guesses too.

Not to long ago , " creditable sources" gave inside info to some Scarlet Nation members that Flood's definitely gone and that was posted here.
Of course in a day or two: another post was started saying:" Flood's gone" by someone else "in the know".

All, I know is: I don't know for sure, but think Flood's contract won't be terminated unless Barchi can find a for cause way to do it that is unchallenged.
I doubt that will happen and think Barchi won't OK the funds Julie needs to buy out Kyle's contract and have enough let to hire a quality replacement and the type of staff that can build a program that will be able to compete with the better programs.

 

[scarletrider]

Another thread about Flood staying , tomorrow or the next day a Flood staying will appear again.
Seems like everyone is acting like they know Flood's definitely coming back like they were told by a creditable source or two of his being retained.
I say BS to that and just like I'm guessing the return of Kyle next season," the ones in the know"
are throwing out their guesses too.

Not to long ago , " creditable sources" gave inside info to some Scarlet Nation members that Flood's definitely gone and that was posted here.
Of course in a day or two: another post was started saying:" Flood's gone" by someone else "in the know".

All, I know is: I don't know for sure, but think Flood's contract won't be terminated unless Barchi can find a for cause way to do it that is unchallenged.
I doubt that will happen and think Barchi won't OK the funds Julie needs to buy out Kyle's contract and have enough let to hire a quality replacement and the type of staff that can build a program that will be able to compete with the better programs.

i agree. wont' buy any of these rumors until the investigation is complete.

 

[rutgersguy1]

Another thread about Flood staying , tomorrow or the next day a Flood staying will appear again.
Seems like everyone is acting like they know Flood's definitely coming back like they were told by a creditable source or two of his being retained.
I say BS to that and just like I'm guessing the return of Kyle next season," the ones in the know"
are throwing out their guesses too.

Not to long ago , " creditable sources" gave inside info to some Scarlet Nation members that Flood's definitely gone and that was posted here.
Of course in a day or two: another post was started saying:" Flood's gone" by someone else "in the know".

All, I know is: I don't know for sure, but think Flood's contract won't be terminated unless Barchi
can find a for cause way to d it that is unchallenged.
I doubt that will happen and think Barchi won't OK the funds Julie needs to buy out Kyle's contract and have enough let to hire a quality replacement and the type of staff that can build a program that will be able to compete with the better programs.

I haven't changed my opinion. I still think he goes, whether it's with JH or not I don't know. In 2013 I said I have to see it to believe it. It was year 2, in year 4 just on his record alone 3 losing conference records and 2 losing overall records you can fire him on that alone if you want. Add the off field stuff and I think the probability goes up.

Of course it's just my opinion, I could be wrong but that's always been my reading of it and we'll see by next week. I'd expect a statement one way or another next week.

 

[vkj91]

Another thread about Flood staying , tomorrow or the next day a Flood staying will appear again.
Seems like everyone is acting like they know Flood's definitely coming back like they were told by a creditable source or two of his being retained.
I say BS to that and just like I'm guessing the return of Kyle next season," the ones in the know"
are throwing out their guesses too.

Not to long ago , " creditable sources" gave inside info to some Scarlet Nation members that Flood's definitely gone and that was posted here.
Of course in a day or two: another post was started saying:" Flood's gone" by someone else "in the know".

All, I know is: I don't know for sure, but think Flood's contract won't be terminated unless Barchi can find a for cause way to do it that is unchallenged.
I doubt that will happen and think Barchi won't OK the funds Julie needs to buy out Kyle's contract and have enough let to hire a quality replacement and the type of staff that can build a program that will be able to compete with the better programs.

Here's the thing.....if I woke up Sunday or Monday to
flood is gone
Julie is gone
Both are gone
Neither are gone
I wouldn't be surprised one bit.

 

[NewJerseyGuy]

Flood is staying.

Hopefully, Flood rids himself of his DC and his DB Coach Wilson.

As I posted on Premium, don't think Flood has the balls to bring back former DB Coach Chris
Demarest who is a superior recruiter and could once again "mine" South Florida for RU.

ONE MORE YEAR!

Thanks Mr. TV. Right or wrong, it is nice to see a "take it to the bank" post on the free board again. Reminds me of a more fun and exciting era of my board past. Ah ... The good old days ...

 

[Kbee3]

Flood is staying.

Hopefully, Flood rids himself of his DC and his DB Coach Wilson.

As I posted on Premium, don't think Flood has the balls to bring back former DB Coach Chris
Demarest who is a superior recruiter and could once again "mine" South Florida for RU.

ONE MORE YEAR!

Thanks for the info, Mr. TV.
I had heard the exact opposite earlier in the season from some pretty reliable sources, but I'll go with your info.
Now if we can just find a young, aggressive defensive co-ordinator......

 

[rutgersguy1]

Here's the thing.....if I woke up Sunday or Monday to
flood is gone
Julie is gone
Both are gone
Neither are gone
I wouldn't be surprised one bit.

I think all your bases are covered, lol. Can I take a spin on the Wheel of Fortune Mr. Sajak. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I'm still trying to figure out if Silencer is on TV's "privileged" - lol - email chain, or he feeds TV back-and-forth info, or if they're one- and-the-same. Pretty sure TV was telling people a few days ago that it was a 3-man race.

 

[rutgersguy1]

No doubt they will negotiate, if in fact, it happens. Point is Flood called their bluff and ball is in Barchi's court.

That's the thing you know, if you just fired him without this whole for cause/not for cause nonsense there would be no bluff to call. Fire him, pay him his buyout....the end.

 

[knight82]

Usually when Mr Television says "take it to the bank", the opposite happens

 

[MADHAT1]

MADHAT1 said: ↑
Another thread about Flood staying , tomorrow or the next day a Flood staying will appear again.
Seems like everyone is acting like they know Flood's definitely coming back like they were told by a creditable source or two of his being retained.
I say BS to that and just like I'm guessing the return of Kyle next season," the ones in the know"
are throwing out their guesses too.

Not to long ago , " creditable sources" gave inside info to some Scarlet Nation members that Flood's definitely gone and that was posted here.
Of course in a day or two: another post was started saying:" Flood's gone" by someone else "in the know".

All, I know is: I don't know for sure, but think Flood's contract won't be terminated unless Barchi can find a for cause way to do it that is unchallenged.
I doubt that will happen and think Barchi won't OK the funds Julie needs to buy out Kyle's contract and have enough let to hire a quality replacement and the type of staff that can build a program that will be able to compete with the better programs.

I haven't changed my opinion. I still think he goes, whether it's with JH or not I don't know. In 2013 I said I have to see it to believe it. It was year 2, in year 4 just on his record alone 3 losing conference records and 2 losing overall records you can fire him on that alone if you want. Add the off field stuff and I think the probability goes up.

Of course it's just my opinion, I could be wrong but that's always been my reading of it and we'll see by next week. I'd expect a statement one way or another next week.

Always appreciate someone giving their own opinion and not implying it's from inside info.
But my post was mainly meant for the same old same old threads being started about the same subject close to every day by posters implying they are in the know and not guessing like you and me about Flood's future or anyone connected to RU FB being fired or not..

Yes I could ignore the multiple threads about the same issue, but I'm a Rutgers FB fan and it's my inalienable right to complain about anything posted on this board and I intend to use that right to the fullest.
:cool2::boxing:[cheers]

 

[ArminRU]

Next year will be one depressing season if Flood is still around.

 

[MADHAT1]

Next year will be one depressing season if Flood is still around.

Hell , it's depressing enough now just thinking he'll be retained. :thumbsdown:

 

[Scarlet Shack]

If this is true...then we are looking 3-9.

And we will cost ourselves $3-5 million next year. And with subsequent years....we will lose 8 digits plus and more if the next guy can't get us competitive by the end of the decade

 

[RU#1fan]

If this is true, there will be A LOT of posters here with egg on thier faces who proclaimed he was gone..

And there will be a ton of Season Ticketholders saying goodbye to Flood and this shatshow.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

If this is true...then we are looking 3-9.

And we will cost ourselves $3-5 million next year. And with subsequent years....we will lose 8 digits plus and more if the next guy can't get us competitive by the end of the decade

MAYBE 3-9. I'd be willing to bet Flood drops to 1-4 on Homecoming, in his "reign." if it's against anyone other than Howard next year.

 

[RU#1fan]

Hermann was the state of this country's PC hire. Now, I liked the hire but let's not make believe her being a women and a lesbian wasn't exactly what the Rice fiasco called for.

Exactly , her timing was impeccable . As will her departure be.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

If Mr. TV is right, 1st time for everything, then i think i need start a new hobby.

Maybe build ships in bottles or something like that.

 

[RUsilencer]

Things chang

Another thread about Flood staying , tomorrow or the next day a Flood staying will appear again.
Seems like everyone is acting like they know Flood's definitely coming back like they were told by a creditable source or two of his being retained.
I say BS to that and just like I'm guessing the return of Kyle next season," the ones in the know"
are throwing out their guesses too.

Not to long ago , " creditable sources" gave inside info to some Scarlet Nation members that Flood's definitely gone and that was posted here.
Of course in a day or two: another post was started saying:" Flood's gone" by someone else "in the know".

All, I know is: I don't know for sure, but think Flood's contract won't be terminated unless Barchi can find a for cause way to do it that is unchallenged.
I doubt that will happen and think Barchi won't OK the funds Julie needs to buy out Kyle's contract and have enough let to hire a quality replacement and the type of staff that can build a program that will be able to compete with the better programs.

Things changed. They can get Flood for cause but Flood will sue. Barchi doesnt want to deal with it. Thats the major change

 

[SkilletHead2]

Run the numbers. Barchi did. The heat he will get from a lawsuit is greater than the heat he will get from keeping Flood.

What does that tell you?

 

[Knightmoves]

oh and they will have to pay out Julie too and then hire a new guy at a higher price. So more money not to mention money lost by revenue and donations next season....good luck, I will be laughing at RU because they deserve what they get

If Julie and Flood both get canned I predict that donations will go way up.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

If Julie and Flood both get canned I predict that donations will go way up.

You realize the HAVE gone up under JH, right?