Targum: Barchi has killled Rutgers Football, as he planned on .
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The merger is essentially complete, and has been for some time. However the BOG is extremely happy with Barchi and the other things he has done, other than oversee the incorporation of UMDNJ into Rutgers. That is why they've asked him to postpone his retirement and extended him, and I have heard no rumblings that the BOG has any inclination to replace Barchi or encourage him to step down.
Add that RU did not go B1G time until late in Frank Burns' tenure.He even won some but lack of administrative support caused his down fall.
So we will become the university of Chicago.Well looks like I have to become a fan of my alma mater in Gainesville. Oh well.
SIAP -- I haven't read all the comments yet -- but this opinion piece has lots of dubious statements in it. For instance, Schiano really didn't have much more experience than Flood when he was hired. And student fees account for only about one-fourth of the University's subsidy of sports. Obviously the Department of Psychology has at least one clunker for a professor.
Man, have you missed the point on this. I'll go slower.
I never said anything about his actions. I said he has never, contrary to what people here seem to believe, said publicly that he doesn't care about athletics.
You say has gone out of his way "countless times to say that sports aren't important to him."
Ok, then, show me just one time. One single quote from him that he doesn't care about sports.
None of this "saying it without saying it" bullshit either.
An actual quote of him saying it.
well, it can't be a straight-up trade, he'd need to throw in about $5mil (you know, that "walking around" cash he keeps in the trunk of his GA's car)....
set-up a call, make it happen... I trust you....
You keep talking about his actions. I'm saying he has never said publicly that he doesn't care. If he did, you would be able to provide a link to him actually saying he doesn't give a shit about sports.
You can't/ Because he has never said that. PERIOD.
There won't be a quote you simpleton! How stupid are you? You think he's going to commit political suicide via the media? It's the actions and overwhelming hearsay from multiple people inside the AD. I guess they're all just lying.
Buggsy now trying to claim he is right because Barchi never said I hate sports publically...just shaking my ****ing head
I don’t know I’m not like some of you guys. I think this guy is a “wolf in sheep’s clothing.” I think he WANTS the demise of the football program, despite his words at the end, Just look at the way he discusses each situation. Something isn’t right in my humble opinion or, maybe, he just truly has gone off the deep end and does love football but has given up all and any hope already.
He's not gonna become a fan of his alma mater in Gainesville?
Why would Barchi want the demise of the FB program? If revenues continue to decline that will hurt the subsidy not help it.
Barchi wants athletics to be revenue neutral. The only way that can happen is if FB is profitable, not hemorrhaging the way it is.
At a time like this RU needs to invest in the FB program, not neglect it. Surely they understand that concept. Otherwise Athletics will be turning in a larger deficit in the future, something that Barchi doesn’t want to happen. His best path to revenue neutrality is hiring a new HC after the season.
This "opinion piece" was just that, an opinion. The professor who wrote it, Glass, was so misinformed in his article. First of all, Schiano left on his own accord. No one forced him out. He wanted out because he had the opportunity to coach in the NFL. Secondly, Pernetti wanted Cristobal who turned us down. Unfortunately, Pernetti in order to keep the recruiting class together, hired Flood. We know how that ended. And thirdly, Hobbs hired Ash. He didn't have to hire Ash. He interviewed him and stated, "Chris Ash gave the best interview I've ever experienced." There were other possible coaches with HC experience who I know I preferred and many others, like Dino Babers, when the idea of Dan Mullens never materialized.
But to say that Barchi purposely wants to see Rutgers football end is such BS. Barchi won't be around much longer and there are some high end donors as well as medium sized donors like myself who would be more than happy to put in the money to dump Ash and bring in a real coach with HC experience.
Great post. This University is disfunctional to its core. Could you imagine if the students, faculty, state govornment, and state residents actually supported their state university. What a powerhouse they could be.There wouldn't have to be any subsidy for people to complain about.
Rutgers academics and athletics should be proud they helped get each other in the BIG. They both will benefit tremendously.
You wish they could work together to enhance each other's mission.
And let's not forget that the administration dictated a salary under a million for that position.
Absolutely scary what could be accomplished if the state as a whole got behind Rutgers.
BINGO !! Give RU a visionary to take the school to the next level. Not a politically connected plug in prez
Yes, for Flood it was. It was not that way for Cristobal. He would have gotten considerably more money.
I Think this is spot on
The head coach at Ohio State, Urban Meyer, 1 of the 2 most successful active head coaches in college football, is constantly shedding assistants in favor of someone better. Meyer replaced Ash with the much more experienced and successful former collegiate and professional head coach Schiano, who Rutgers had declined to rehire as head coach.
The head coach at Ohio State, Urban Meyer, 1 of the 2 most successful active head coaches in college football, is constantly shedding assistants in favor of someone better. Meyer replaced Ash with the much more experienced and successful former collegiate and professional head coach Schiano, who Rutgers had declined to rehire as head coach.
Also he said Rutgers refused to rehire Schiano, when did Gary interview for a new hire.
Also said Instead of hire Flood with no experience, they should have found an experienced head coach. How is that done in one week?
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How is it spot on? Has OSU won a championship with Schiano. Ash defenses have never been blown out at OSU. Meyer would give Schiano back for Ash in a heartbeat. Why do you guys act like you were winning national championships with Schiano. You were mediocre then. Be honest, You don’t like the guy because he gave a middle finger to a mythical tradition.
The football deficit is paid for by the fees of students who will spend decades paying off their student loans. It is one thing to borrow money for your own education, quite another so that Rutgers can pay someone $10,000,000 to coach a football team that you did not know existed. It is only a matter of time before the students demand to end their support of the program, which will end the program itself. I will be devastated, but since the Athletics Department has deliberately antagonized both the fan base and the faculty, no one else will care when football is gone.
Arnold Glass is a professor in the Rutgers Department of Psychology. His column, "Extra Curricula," runs on alternate Thursdays.
This from the Director of Psychology,,,,who doesn't understand the positive influence of a winning football team...
Arnold Glass is a professor in the Rutgers Department of Psychology. His column, "Extra Curricula," runs on alternate Thursdays.
This from the Director of Psychology,,,,who doesn't understand the positive influence of a winning football team...
He is apparently a specialist in (roughly speaking) figuring out how people use their brains to perceive and to think. Sounds very interesting, but I don't think it gives him any special insight into a question like this one. https://psych.rutgers.edu/faculty-profiles-a-contacts/98-arnold-glass
Don't you think that Rutgers fans are very justified in wanting the dismissal of Ash? After all, his team has won only one game in the third year of a rebuild, and results are worse than last year. Isn't that a sign that he can't do the job? Or do you think Rutgers fans are giving up on him prematurely? Interested in your opinion because you are not a Rutgers fan and so maybe you can be more objective than we can be.
The more experienced and more successful part I was talking, which I think Schiano is more than Ash
And Ash was CO-defensive coordinator, meaning two people doing one job which I’m pretty sure has its advantages
And fwiw Ohio State is still alive to win a national championship this season if they win out
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Schiano's and the nations best defensive player out for the season,might have something to do with it.
Another problem I see with Ash he is not marketing the program. So while he's running up the schools loss total, fans have lost all faith. Schianos early years he was always talking up the program and building a fan base. Building the brand.That is what this program is in desperate need of.
Your point about our "mythical tradition" your absolutely right, he came in and took a big dump right on them. How to win friends and influence people.
Tradition means something different to different people. For bama Tradition means winning National Championships. Yeah, we don't have that kind of tradition. We only won one, the 1st one and never again.
But, what we are talking about is simple stuff, just think about how you would feel if after Saban retires, the next HC doesn't that he wants modern uniforms and gets rid of the classic look, thinks the mascot makes no sense, and gets rid of it. Bans the use of houndstooth. Installs a new battlecry instead of Roll Ride. And on top of all that, loses most games and recuirts like dogsh!t.
That is basically what we have with Ash.
But, what we are talking about is simple stuff, just think about how you would feel if after Saban retires, the next HC doesn't that he wants modern uniforms and gets rid of the classic look, thinks the mascot makes no sense, and gets rid of it. Bans the use of houndstooth. Installs a new battlecry instead of Roll Ride. And on top of all that, loses most games and recuirts like dogsh!t.
That is basically what we have with Ash.
The Big Ten full share will wipe the subsidy. That seems to be his plan. He has repeatedly pointed out that he set that as a goal which means he will use that to grade himself on his performance. He's like Trump and the wall.. doesn't matter if the wall is still a good idea... he promised a wall and will grade himself on delivery of that promise.
In any case.. we will know soon enough.
The Big Ten is giving us bigger payouts these next few years in exchange for delaying the time of the full payout.
So, we will know if that money is used for replacing Ash and investing in football's future or if it is used to eliminate the athletic subsidy. I used to be able to say that the subside was not for football but all the non-revenue sports.. but football-based revenues have had to drop dramatically. Then again, without football we wouldn't be in the Big Ten and total revenues would be far, far worse.
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In my day we didn't let professors write for The Targum.
We did in my days at the Daily Cal. We had a professor write anonymously to blast his colleagues in the Academic Senate. I was the editorial page editor, and I eventually told him that I wouldn't publish any more pieces unless he used his real name. Never heard from him again.
wow.. you had honor and journalistic standards back then.. and now even at the highest level newspapers those traits are sorely lacking.
Thank you. A student government honcho once said we should publish lengthy free advertising for him because we had run a minor promotional item for ourselves. I replied, "Just because we're not virgins doesn't mean we have to be whores." Never heard from him again either.
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