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Yeah, his gameday coaching leaves much to be desired. He iced the kicker in the Washington game and it worked. Yesterday, it backfired . Schiano has built us a respectable program ,
This is a school with a lame duck president , No AD very little NIL money. Not really sure what many of you expect. We are respectable. Not sure how you could even trust this place or the big donors to hire another coach (they consistently get it wrong , most recently with ash). Be happy and thankful schiano is back here.
 
As I've said before, all one has to do is check out GS's predecessors as head coach at Rutgers to get a better appreciation of what he's done for this program.
Also, those who think RU could ever be elite like Ohio State and Pedd State had better take a look at the season ticket numbers. I'd really be interested in a poll as to the level of support for the Rutgers football program among New Jersey residents.
 
Nice job by the two posters above. Sure, Schiano screwed up by calling the TO. Easy to second guess in hindsight but how many people thought it was a bad call in real time before the kick occurred.
I did. Thought it was a complete gift when they sent their kicker out in that situation based on his results this year. Still not calling for his firing though.
 
I did. Thought it was a complete gift when they sent their kicker out in that situation based on his results this year. Still not calling for his firing though.
Wasn't that the kicker who hit one from 59 already this year?

My only issue is this love affair with "icing the kicker". It may work once in a while but as much as GS uses it? I'm sure most kickers ate probably taught to e pect it by now.
 
Wasn't that the kicker who hit one from 59 already this year?

My only issue is this love affair with "icing the kicker". It may work once in a while but as much as GS uses it? I'm sure most kickers ate probably taught to e pect it by now.
Not sure. The Illinois guy on Richie and Mike’s podcast said he had little success over 50 this year.
 
Nice job by the two posters above. Sure, Schiano screwed up by calling the TO. Easy to second guess in hindsight but how many people thought it was a bad call in real time before the kick occurred.
Thousands. The most impossible try in the history of football. So much of this inexcusable blunder is being overlooked. For one, Schiano absolutely expected UI to rekick. That’s why you ice late. He never thought through the next possibilities. That’s failure 1. Not thinking ahead. Next, from a makeable distance (which this far exceeded by 20 yards) in swirling, windy conditions you never give a practice kick to let the kicker identify aim corrections for the kick that was expected to follow. That’s failure 2. Failure 3 is the idea that he wanted the D prepped for a fake, which was not even the remotest of viable strategies for the offense in that situation.

In a career filled with coaching blunders, this was his Mt. Everest of coaching incompetence. His ignorance and chimp football IQ paved the way for Illinois to win. Rutgers is paying $6M for a vacancy. We do not have a legitimate head coach, nor will we for at least another 5 years. We have a con man stealing salary, fleecing players, fans and the university.

We often contemplate the Mt Rushmore of things. The Mt Rushmore of Gross Coaching Incompetence would have just one likeness on it. Schiano’s.
 
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Nice job by the two posters above. Sure, Schiano screwed up by calling the TO. Easy to second guess in hindsight but how many people thought it was a bad call in real time before the kick occurred.
The entire stadium knew it was a bad decision real time. Only people that were not at the game are giving the benefit of the doubt and didn’t know what the conditions were truly like. The wind was gusting 30+mph into the kickers face. The wind moved one of the waste management garbage cans on the upper level when I was getting a hot chocolate in the 3rd quarter Those things empty weigh a ton.
 
Thousands. The most impossible try in the history of football. So much of this inexcusable blunder is being overlooked. For one, Schiano absolutely expected UI to rekick. That’s why you ice late. He never thought through the next possibilities. That’s failure 1. Not thinking ahead. Next, from a makeable distance (which this far exceeded by 20 yards) in swirling, windy conditions you never give a practice kick to let the kicker identify aim corrections for the kick that was expected to follow. That’s failure 2. Failure 3 is the idea that he wanted the D prepped for a fake, which was not even the remotest of viable strategies for the offense in that situation.

In a career filled with coaching blunders, this was his Mt. Everest of coaching incompetence. His ignorance and chimp football IQ paved the way for Illinois to win. Rutgers is paying $6M for a vacancy. We do not have a legitimate head coach, nor will we for at least another 5 years. We have a con man stealing salary, fleecing players, fans and the university.

We often contemplate the Mt Rushmore of things. The Mt Rushmore of Gross Coaching Incompetence would have just one likeness on it. Schiano’s.
Great post. Schiano again displayed his lack of flexibility as a game day coach. He apparently did not think this through and consider the special circumstances which dictated against icing the kicker. It is another particularly egregious example of rigidity and stubbornness, which has been his trademark as a coach forever.
 
Yeah, his gameday coaching leaves much to be desired. He iced the kicker in the Washington game and it worked. Yesterday, it backfired . Schiano has built us a respectable program ,
This is a school with a lame duck president , No AD very little NIL money. Not really sure what many of you expect. We are respectable. Not sure how you could even trust this place or the big donors to hire another coach (they consistently get it wrong , most recently with ash). Be happy and thankful schiano is back here.
How do you know the Washington miss was due to icing ? But that doesn’t even matter. The conditions and distance on this kick amounted to an impossible FG try. Mr. Blutarsky zero point zero probability.
 
The entire stadium knew it was a bad decision real time. Only people that were not at the game are giving the benefit of the doubt and didn’t know what the conditions were truly like. The wind was gusting 30+mph into the kickers face. The wind moved one of the waste management garbage cans on the upper level when I was getting a hot chocolate in the 3rd quarter Those things empty weigh a ton.
I see. So since the wind was swirling, you knew the wind would blow against the kick and that the wind would not aid the kick.
 
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I see. So since the wind was swirling, you knew the wind would blow against the kick and that the wind would not aid the kick.
The wind direction at that time was dead into the kicker. Read the article by Carino in the APP. The wind socks at the top of the goalposts were at a 90 degree angle off into the face of the kicker. Yea the wind was swirling all day. But at this point in time the wind was a steady 20mph and was gusting 30+ mph into the kicker.




Odd take for someone that wasn’t in the stadium to argue with people that were. Guess there was no breeze in the comfort of your living room?
 
Thousands. The most impossible try in the history of football. So much of this inexcusable blunder is being overlooked. For one, Schiano absolutely expected UI to rekick. That’s why you ice late. He never thought through the next possibilities. That’s failure 1. Not thinking ahead. Next, from a makeable distance (which this far exceeded by 20 yards) in swirling, windy conditions you never give a practice kick to let the kicker identify aim corrections for the kick that was expected to follow. That’s failure 2. Failure 3 is the idea that he wanted the D prepped for a fake, which was not even the remotest of viable strategies for the offense in that situation.

In a career filled with coaching blunders, this was his Mt. Everest of coaching incompetence. His ignorance and chimp football IQ paved the way for Illinois to win. Rutgers is paying $6M for a vacancy. We do not have a legitimate head coach, nor will we for at least another 5 years. We have a con man stealing salary, fleecing players, fans and the university.

We often contemplate the Mt Rushmore of things. The Mt Rushmore of Gross Coaching Incompetence would have just one likeness on it. Schiano’s.
The head coach of Illinois thought kicking the field goal was a good idea at the time so he is worse than Schiano.
 
I can't remember the exact number at the time but, if he DID have another time out available to him, Schiano should have MOST DEFINITELY called another time out once he saw the Illinois offense step back onto the field. And, yes - I know that means he would've called two time outs in a row.

I don't think the call to ice the kicker is somehow indicative of how awful he is (I just don't see the point in doing it and, like some, particularly in that moment) but he then needs to recognize that as there's a change in plan from Illinois, he needs to get his defense ready for whatever may come next. Like a 40 yard crossing route for a game-winning TD.
 
I can't remember the exact number at the time but, if he DID have another time out available to him, Schiano should have MOST DEFINITELY called another time out once he saw the Illinois offense step back onto the field. And, yes - I know that means he would've called two time outs in a row.

I don't think the call to ice the kicker is somehow indicative of how awful he is (I just don't see the point in doing it and, like some, particularly in that moment) but he then needs to recognize that as there's a change in plan from Illinois, he needs to get his defense ready for whatever may come next. Like a 40 yard crossing route for a game-winning TD.
He knew you can’t call two timeouts between plays.
 
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Nice job by the two posters above. Sure, Schiano screwed up by calling the TO. Easy to second guess in hindsight but how many people thought it was a bad call in real time before the kick occurred.
Pretty much the whole stadium
 
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Thousands. The most impossible try in the history of football. So much of this inexcusable blunder is being overlooked. For one, Schiano absolutely expected UI to rekick. That’s why you ice late. He never thought through the next possibilities. That’s failure 1. Not thinking ahead. Next, from a makeable distance (which this far exceeded by 20 yards) in swirling, windy conditions you never give a practice kick to let the kicker identify aim corrections for the kick that was expected to follow. That’s failure 2. Failure 3 is the idea that he wanted the D prepped for a fake, which was not even the remotest of viable strategies for the offense in that situation.

In a career filled with coaching blunders, this was his Mt. Everest of coaching incompetence. His ignorance and chimp football IQ paved the way for Illinois to win. Rutgers is paying $6M for a vacancy. We do not have a legitimate head coach, nor will we for at least another 5 years. We have a con man stealing salary, fleecing players, fans and the university.

We often contemplate the Mt Rushmore of things. The Mt Rushmore of Gross Coaching Incompetence would have just one likeness on it. Schiano’s.
STFU
 
Thousands. The most impossible try in the history of football. So much of this inexcusable blunder is being overlooked. For one, Schiano absolutely expected UI to rekick. That’s why you ice late. He never thought through the next possibilities. That’s failure 1. Not thinking ahead. Next, from a makeable distance (which this far exceeded by 20 yards) in swirling, windy conditions you never give a practice kick to let the kicker identify aim corrections for the kick that was expected to follow. That’s failure 2. Failure 3 is the idea that he wanted the D prepped for a fake, which was not even the remotest of viable strategies for the offense in that situation.

In a career filled with coaching blunders, this was his Mt. Everest of coaching incompetence. His ignorance and chimp football IQ paved the way for Illinois to win. Rutgers is paying $6M for a vacancy. We do not have a legitimate head coach, nor will we for at least another 5 years. We have a con man stealing salary, fleecing players, fans and the university.

We often contemplate the Mt Rushmore of things. The Mt Rushmore of Gross Coaching Incompetence would have just one likeness on it. Schiano’s.
 
I can't remember the exact number at the time but, if he DID have another time out available to him, Schiano should have MOST DEFINITELY called another time out once he saw the Illinois offense step back onto the field. And, yes - I know that means he would've called two time outs in a row.

I don't think the call to ice the kicker is somehow indicative of how awful he is (I just don't see the point in doing it and, like some, particularly in that moment) but he then needs to recognize that as there's a change in plan from Illinois, he needs to get his defense ready for whatever may come next. Like a 40 yard crossing route for a game-winning TD.
What’s indicative to how awful he is, is his record. You are what your record is.
 
Ok. I will take the bait …now you tell me what coach we had here or guy we were gonna hire was above D? Because I must have missed it
below average for eternity is a shitty strategy. 10 years so far for minimal competitiveness and bad decisions

you don't know if a hire will be better or worse, but being stuck in neutral is the worst place to be....the approach must be hire/rinse/repeat as needed.
 
below average for eternity is a shitty strategy. 10 years so far for minimal competitiveness and bad decisions

you don't know if a hire will be better or worse, but being stuck in neutral is the worst place to be....the approach must be hire/rinse/repeat as needed.
Let’s do a Thanksgiving analogy.
Say there is an uncle Shelby… say uncle Shelby is perpetually single. He’s really not a great catch , but he’s looking for the right partner . Every past partner uncle
Shelby brought to Thanksgiving has been terribile. Just terrible. Except one years ago that was passable. Then a couple more terrible ones after that .
The passable one is coming to Thanksgiving dinner again !! It’s as good as uncle Shelby has ever done and may ever do ….you dont pass on that …you pass the stuffing
 
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Nice job by the two posters above. Sure, Schiano screwed up by calling the TO. Easy to second guess in hindsight but how many people thought it was a bad call in real time before the kick occurred.
That would be every single person in the stadium and those watching on TV (except not you, apparently).
 
haha rest my case

Let’s do a Thanksgiving analogy.
Say there is an uncle Shelby… say uncle Shelby is perpetually single. He’s really not a great catch , but he’s looking for the right partner . Every past partner uncle
Shelby brought to Thanksgiving has been terribile. Just terrible. Except one years ago that was passable. Then a couple more terrible ones after that .
The passable one is coming to Thanksgiving dinner again !! It’s as good as uncle Shelby has ever done and may ever do ….you dont pass on that …you pass the stuffing
You can really be obnoxious at times. And I’m no Shelby fan. What’s up with that? Many of your posts are pretty good when you’re not trying to be a smart ass.
 
Let’s do a Thanksgiving analogy.
Say there is an uncle Shelby… say uncle Shelby is perpetually single. He’s really not a great catch , but he’s looking for the right partner . Every past partner uncle
Shelby brought to Thanksgiving has been terribile. Just terrible. Except one years ago that was passable. Then a couple more terrible ones after that .
The passable one is coming to Thanksgiving dinner again !! It’s as good as uncle Shelby has ever done and may ever do ….you dont pass on that …you pass the stuffing
No one in his right mind pays the partner 65-70 million to merely be passable. Uncle Shelby has far higher standards. He would never sacrifice goals for passable
 
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Ok. I will take the bait …now you tell me what coach we had here or guy we were gonna hire was above D? Because I must have missed it
We have a HC that is good at 2 out of 3 things
A. Great Recruiter
B. A Player’s Coach
C. Horrible Game Day Coach
We need all 3 to win in College Football. Until we find a Coach who can do all 3 we will never win in the B1G.
 
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Let’s do a Thanksgiving analogy.
Say there is an uncle Shelby… say uncle Shelby is perpetually single. He’s really not a great catch , but he’s looking for the right partner . Every past partner uncle
Shelby brought to Thanksgiving has been terribile. Just terrible. Except one years ago that was passable. Then a couple more terrible ones after that .
The passable one is coming to Thanksgiving dinner again !! It’s as good as uncle Shelby has ever done and may ever do ….you dont pass on that …you pass the stuffing
He can be the best we've had but still not be above mediocre.

With Uncle Shelby, yes, it's the best he's done but he shouldn't settle for mediocrity.
 
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Let’s do a Thanksgiving analogy.
Say there is an uncle Shelby… say uncle Shelby is perpetually single. He’s really not a great catch , but he’s looking for the right partner . Every past partner uncle
Shelby brought to Thanksgiving has been terribile. Just terrible. Except one years ago that was passable. Then a couple more terrible ones after that .
The passable one is coming to Thanksgiving dinner again !! It’s as good as uncle Shelby has ever done and may ever do ….you dont pass on that …you pass the stuffing
Wonder if Uncle Shelby talks in third person at Thanksgiving Dinner
 
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