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[RU_Planning]

If Kaminsky said "f that h0nky" in reference to Harrison then it would be similar.

Ultimately the word used by Harrison should be removed from everyone's vernacular.

The argument about a double standard is pathetic. If Harrison said "f that h0nky" and there was no outrage, then yes you could argue double standard. Focus less on the word and more on the use context. Come on guys, critical and comprehensive thinking isn't that hard is it?

 

[bac2therac]

It wasn't used as a term of endearment as blacks have somehow found acceptable to use...it was used deragatory

 

[soundcrib]

It was the same as "F that dude." That's what he meant.
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[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

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Originally posted by bac2therac:
It wasn't used as a term of endearment as blacks have somehow found acceptable to use...it was used deragatory

BAC, not a term of endearment. When a black person says it to another black person it is all about intent. There is no intent to be derogatory or offensive. Think about it as a substitute for "dude". No intent to be derogatory in the traditional way in which that word was used. It's origin was a derogatory term used by whites against blacks.

It is similar to a young girl saying "Hey bitch" to another young girl. The intent is not to be offensive. If a man calls a girl a bitch it is sometimes used in a derogatory or offensive way. example: A man seeing a ex-girlfriend and calling her a "fukkin botch".... The intent is clear.

I am unclear how Harrison using this word against Kaminski can be viewed as racist.
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This post was edited on 4/6 9:16 AM by RU-Choppin-Ohio

 

[lwyrup]

I'm not sure how it was racist (maybe I am being ignorant). Stupid comment, for sure. But since when is the n-word used towards a white man considered racist? If anything, doesn't it show Andrew is angry towards Kaminsky and doesn't hate him based on race?

This post was edited on 4/6 9:20 AM by lwyrup

 

[Knight_Light]

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:
I am unclear how Harrison using this word against Kaminski can be viewed as racist.
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This post was edited on 4/6 9:16 AM by RU-Choppin-Ohio

then you can't be helped.

N word should never be used...which more folks like Stephen A, Cosby et al had more influence in the African American community...as they have really pushed to eradicate that horrible word from everyone's dictionary.

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Originally posted by Knight_Light:

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:
I am unclear how Harrison using this word against Kaminski can be viewed as racist.
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This post was edited on 4/6 9:16 AM by RU-Choppin-Ohio

then you can't be helped.

N word should never be used...which more folks like Stephen A, Cosby et al had more influence in the African American community...as they have really pushed to eradicate that horrible word from everyone's dictionary.

Originally posted by Knight_Light:

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:
I am unclear how Harrison using this word against Kaminski can be viewed as racist.
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This post was edited on 4/6 9:16 AM by RU-Choppin-Ohio

then you can't be helped.

N word should never be used...which more folks like Stephen A, Cosby et al had more influence in the African American community...as they have really pushed to eradicate that horrible word from everyone's dictionary.

If the origin of the word is derogatory... whites using it against blacks.... are you saying that it is now a derogatory term used by blacks against whites? Kamininisky being the target is because he was very vocal and animated in his celebration after the victory. The offensive and stupid part was the "fuc that" part of the statement.

Did you read my entire post?

 

[hinson32]

Wouldn't of Kaminsky had to have called Harrison a honkey for it to be equal?

 

[batts]

It's all terribly confusing. The N word as used in a Quentln Tarantino movie (Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown) is not offensive nor racist. The N word as used in a Spike Lee movie, however, can be racist and offensive.

 

[HALL85]

So if Obama uses the "N-word" which one is it? Would he be a racist or just ignorant? Remember that he's half white and half black...I'm being serious here.

It's a derogatory word no matter how you cut it....and as much as the media and extremists try to make us believe it, life is just not black and white anymore.

 

[lawmatt78]

Originally posted by RU_Planning:
If Kaminsky said "f that h0nky" in reference to Harrison then it would be similar.

Ultimately the word used by Harrison should be removed from everyone's vernacular.

The argument about a double standard is pathetic. If Harrison said "f that h0nky" and there was no outrage, then yes you could argue double standard. Focus less on the word and more on the use context. Come on guys, critical and comprehensive thinking isn't that hard is it?

This.

As noted above, the comment - which was certainly juvenile and offensive - was intended to mean "F that guy."

Context matters.

Harrison was called out and embarrassed in front of millions. It's not like he said it without consequence. He (hopefully) learned a lesson.



This post was edited on 4/6 4:07 PM by lawmatt78

 

[higgins3]

It's very confusing. You don't hear white people calling each other cracker?Although if my white friend says to me " Whats up "bad word", I tell him to just call me a cracker, haha.

I would think the word would be eliminated by now. Then again, snoop dog said it 30 times last night on national television in a period of 10 seconds.

We all need some changing. Everyone needs to improve and hold themselves to a higher standing.

 

[PhilaPhans]

How much history do white people have suffering while being referred to as crackers or honkies? That's the other side of the argument. I definitely don't care for the "n" word, even with that knowledge. But that's a reason a lot of black people think it's up to them to take back the word.

Yes, everything needs to change. Sadly, there are a lot of people in this world that are just giant a-holes and will never change.

 

[higgins3]

No Doubt. The world would be a lot better off without hip/rap music from the past 10-15 years. It is damaging to the youth of today.

 

[SkilletHead2]

Not to mention how much walking on people's lawns damages today's youth.

 

[higgins3]

Skillet, you really don't think music has an impact on people? What any person listens to 5 hours a day will have an impact on them. I guess you haven't heard rap lately.

 

[TDIrish1]

I don't know-----I heard the same stuff from both sides of the aisle in my first varsity football game and that was 1961.

My Dad gave me the best advice I ever got. " Don't say a word----look whoever is chirping straight in the eye and let your pads and your helmet talk for you ". I took that into all sports----hoops or baseball I never even acknowledged I heard it.

 

[SkilletHead2]

Originally posted by higgins3:

Skillet, you really don't think music has an impact on people? What any person listens to 5 hours a day will have an impact on them. I guess you haven't heard rap lately.

Actually just ragging on ya, higgins! I'm probably twice as old as you are, maybe three times!

Haven't listen lately or longly. But the research on the effects of rap music (or any kind of music or TV) is a bit of a mixed bag. Generally, they probably do have some effect, but not as much as people fear (and have always feared -- same concerns expressed over rock and roll back in the 50's -- Elvis was going to ruin western society).

This post was edited on 4/7 2:49 PM by SkilletHead2

 

[RU-Choppin-Ohio]

Originally posted by higgins3:
It's very confusing. You don't hear white people calling each other cracker?Although if my white friend says to me " Whats up "bad word", I tell him to just call me a cracker, haha.

I would think the word would be eliminated by now. Then again, snoop dog said it 30 times last night on national television in a period of 10 seconds.

We all need some changing. Everyone needs to improve and hold themselves to a higher standing.

Higgins....here's one you probably never knew existed.

Two young white kids calling each other 'n-word" during a conversation. Did you know that happens?

The word does not mean much unless the intent of the user is to be derogatory or offensive.

 

[higgins3]

No worries.

Choppin, yes i am fully aware that happens. I hear it all the time. The whole use of the word and who can use it is just confusing.

If you listen to rap, you;ll find it at the end of every sentence in 9/10 songs.

 

[Knight_Light]

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:

The word does not mean much unless the intent of the user is to be derogatory or offensive.

Its pretty obvious that Harrison wasn't trying to complement Kaminsky when he uttered that N word when the question was asked by the reporter.

 

[RUforJERSEY]

Originally posted by Knight_Light:

Originally posted by RU-Choppin-Ohio:

The word does not mean much unless the intent of the user is to be derogatory or offensive.

Its pretty obvious that Harrison wasn't trying to complement Kaminsky when he uttered that N word when the question was asked by the reporter.

I'm pretty sure that you realize that RU-Choppin Ohio meant racially derogatory or offensive. The way that the player used it was akin to saying F that MF or something along those lines.